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Category:Cultural depictions of Nichelle Nichols

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of nichelle nichols


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles created by a user who has since been banned for making useless categories JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, the category contains non-defining guest appearances. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Ava Gardner

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of ava gardner


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in the category. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - the one article is The Aviator (2004 film) which is ludicrously over-categorised (and is hardly a depiction of Gardner). Oculi (talk) 23:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Jeff Goldblum

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual deletion. MER-C 19:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of jeff goldblum


 * Nominator's rationale: Small category with little room for growth currently. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and one of the two articles does not even belong here. Manually move the statue article to Category:Cultural depictions of actors.Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Rock Hudson

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents to Category:Cultural depictions of actors. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of rock hudson


 * Nominator's rationale: Small category with little room for growth. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree with WP:SMALLCAT, merge to Category:Cultural depictions of actors. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 21:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Jim Henson

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of jim henson


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it and little room for growth. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, there is currently one article in the category which does not even belong. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Halle Berry

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of halle berry


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it, and little room for growth. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, two of the three articles do not belong here, the third is questionable. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:50, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Christian Bale

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual deletion. MER-C 19:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of christian bale


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and two of the four articles do not belong here. Manually move Bale Out and R U Professional to Category:Cultural depictions of actors. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Roscoe Arbuckle

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; contents merged to Category:Cultural depictions of actors. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of roscoe arbuckle


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it, with little room for growth. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree with WP:SMALLCAT, merge to Category:Cultural depictions of actors. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 21:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of clowns

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of clowns


 * Nominator's rationale: redundant with Category:Works about clowns JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Both articles are already in a subcategory of Category:Works about clowns, so merging is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:58, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Lucy Liu

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of lucy liu


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, the category contains non-defining guest appearances. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:00, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:X-Men Legends

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting x-men legends


 * Nominator's rationale: Small category with only two articles in it and no room for growth, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, there is no need to merge because the two articles are already in Category:Video games based on X-Men. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:09, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Video games set in Wakanda

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in Wakanda to Category:Video games set in a fictional country
 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category with few articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 12:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge, one fictional location or another is a trivial distinction. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Video games set in Latveria

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in Latveria to Category:Video games set in a fictional country
 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category that only has three articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 21:59, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom.ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 12:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge, one fictional location or another is a trivial distinction. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:15, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Shark Tale music

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting shark tale music


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category that only has three articles in it and no room for growth, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 21:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NONDEF. The entries are all songs that aren't defined by their use in Shark Tale. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 06:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of M. Night Shyamalan

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of m. night shyamalan


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category that only has two articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 21:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic of both articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural depictions of Ben Affleck
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of ben affleck


 * Nominator's rationale: Overly specific category that only has two articles in it, created by a user who has since been banned for creating useless categories. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 21:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, only one article is relevant and may be moved to Category:Cultural depictions of actors but I assume that will happen anyway per this merge discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Quebec politicians by city
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:17, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Quebec politicians by city to Category:Canadian politicians by city and Category:Politicians in Quebec
 * Nominator's rationale: No other Canadian province has its own province-specific subcategory of, and with just five cities here and 17 cities in the parent it's not clear that subdividing the tree by province is warranted at all. Category:American politicians by city is subdivided by state, but it has around 200 cities with dedicated politicians categories, not just 22, and Canada does not have to automatically match everything the US does as a matter of course without regard to whether Canada's own needs warrant it or not. Bearcat (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment -- the parent has almost subcats enough to create a sibling category for Ontario. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Sly and Robbie songs
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. It sounds like there is no real consensus on whether to include cover songs, but there is at least one original song in the category now. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:09, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sly and robbie songs


 * Nominator's rationale: Category with only two redirects - and one of them has no mention of S&R at the target page. No navigational help to readers. Richhoncho (talk) 08:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I added "Fire" to the category, and Sly and Robbie's version (which charted) is mentioned in the Cover versions section of that article; "Night Nurse" now exists with a Sly and Robbie section (notable cover), and I created "Boops (Here to Go)", a notable No. 12 / No. 13 UK / NZ hit. ~Hiddenstranger (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, category contains non-defining covers. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * They are notable hit covers esp. "Night Nurse" and "Boops (Here to Go)" is an original hit song. Hiddenstranger (talk) 19:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, then keep "Boops (Here to Go)" but remove the three others from the category, they are notable but not defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So therefore the category should not be deleted as it contains articles of notable songs by the artist. Also, artist songs categories can be added to song articles of songs they covered as long as the cover is notable enough to be included in the article per WP:COVERSONG. Hiddenstranger (talk) 00:21, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No we only categorize based on defining characteristics, per WP:CATDEF. In order for Fire (Ohio Players song) to be added to the category the song must be known as a Sly and Robbie song. A song is hardly ever defined by who covered it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It is known as a Sly and Robbie song but it was less popular than the original. How well known does a cover version have to be in order for the song's article to be included in the cover artist's songs category? If the cover is more well known than the original (the original may hardly be known at all to most people) then the cover artist's songs category should be added to that song article. Thousands of song articles are categorized as such e.g. "Nothing Compares 2 U", "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", "Mickey", "Red Red Wine" and "Alone". There are many cases where there are more than one popular big hit covers of a song e.g. "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell then by Marilyn Manson; "Twist and Shout" by the Isley Brothers then the Beatles then Salt-N-Pepa then Chaka Demus & Pliers - those two songs are appropriately sitting under the cover artist's songs categories. In this particular case alone, "Night Nurse" should be included under Category:Sly and Robbie songs as the original did not chart (although it did receive heavy airplay at the time) whereas Sly and Robbie's version was the notable chart hit. Hiddenstranger (talk) 14:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional magic school students
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 20%23Category:Fictional magic school students

Category:Military vehicles in fiction
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting military vehicles in fiction


 * Propose deleting armoured fighting vehicles in fiction


 * Nominator's rationale: This category name fails WP:NONDEF as it encompasses works with non-defining usage of military vehicles. Category:Fictional military vehicles was already created by me and is more in line with the current naming scheme. I didn't catch this one, otherwise I would have done a WP:C2C. But there is no point in it existing now. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:03, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete The categories as named would include practically any work with a military vehicle. How is this defining? Dimadick (talk) 16:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Fictional military vehicles. The first category has an article which will be orphaned from this tree.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:29, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No, it is an article about a video game, it should not be put in a vehicles category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Female characters in animated series
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 20:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting female characters in animated series


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT, an unnecessary overcategorization of the parent category. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Question, if not kept shouldn't it at least be merged to Category:Female characters in animation? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose There are two parent categories, as this covers animated television series characters. This is distinct from characters in other forms of animation or other forms of television. Dimadick (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose There is a "Male characters in animated series" category, so it stands to reason there would be a female category. Treybien2 (talk) 03:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


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