Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 October 28



Teen magazines

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 19:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Teens' magazines to Category:Teen magazines
 * Propose renaming Category:Teens' magazines published in Japan to Category:Teen magazines published in Japan
 * Propose renaming Category:Teens' magazine stubs to Category:Teen magazine stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: The main article is Teen magazine. To pluralize that would be "Teen magazines" as is used in the article List of teen magazines. Adding an "s" and a possessive apostrophe to "Teen" is unnecessary. For comparison, we have and, though the parent category for all of these is . Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per WP:C2D and also nominate . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I will nominate if this rename goes through. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per all of the above. Her Pegship (?) 16:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:People who lost United States citizenship
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Category:Interracial romance in fiction

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename; I'll leave the manual purging to whomever wants to do it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Interracial romance in fiction to Category:Fiction about interracial romance
 * Nominator's rationale: A lot of the shows in this cat, like The Flash (2014 TV series), Supergirl (TV series) and Batwoman (TV series) rarely, if ever, even acknowledge the fact that the interracial romances are in fact interracial. and therefore, it's not defining for these categories. This cat should only contain fiction in which the fact that the romance is interracial is important to the plot, like Mixed-ish, Bob Hearts Abishola and Othello. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete another "about" category. Also, race is in the eye of the beholder. Note the inclusion of I Love Lucy category here. Is it Wikipedia's policy that Latinos are of a different race than White people, despite the Census Bureau of the United States stating otherwise? Seems a little like Apartheid - but the way political winds are blowing we're being marginalized by other institutions, why not WP? smh Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename and purge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Purge Yeah this is another example of where in film television where the category becomes too dense due to the entries having different amount of use in their plot. Yiu can have one film where it is only mentioned sparsley in the plot like The Jeffersons but then have a film where it is central conflict or a key characteristic to the primary and secondary characters like in the film Jungle Fever.  There should be a general standard to what can be considered important to the plot to be included in said category. I'm neutral to the renaming though. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 12:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Union of Journalists of Moldova members

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Union of Journalists of Moldova members to Category:Moldovan journalists
 * Nominator's rationale: I think they are all in the Moldovan journalists category. Being a member of the union is not really defining and most of the articles dont mention the union. Rathfelder (talk) 20:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, plain membership of an organization is hardly ever defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:American children's animated variety television series

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 20:14, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American children's animated variety television series to Category:American children's animated television series and Category:American variety television series
 * Propose merging Category:American children's variety television series to Category:American children's television series and Category:American variety television series
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, one article each. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * NoteI expanded each of the cats a little, but they are still relatively small. I'm neutral on deleting. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:43, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom Only one of these articles even mentions the term "variety". The categorization does not reflect the articles' content. Dimadick (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists
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Category:Connecticut populated places on the Connecticut River

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 19:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Connecticut populated places on the Connecticut River to Category:Populated places on the Connecticut River
 * Nominator's rationale: In a surprise to no one, there are a few populated places on the Connecticut River.. in Connecticut. This seems like a classic WP:OVERLAPCAT to me. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 05:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe not WP:OVERLAPCAT or WP:OCLOCATION, but it certainly is WP:OVERCAT. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 05:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, this should not be nominated without its sibling categories like Category:Massachusetts populated places on the Connecticut River. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * most of the sibling cats are longstanding creations, I believe. Either way, I don't seek to challenge any other category execpt the one that I find the most redundant and effects the articles I personally work on in general. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 16:58, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It is either redundant in all states or it is not redundant at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep There are enought places in Connecticut that are not along its namesake River. For instance, New Haven is one of the major cities in the state. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 18:08, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is a perfectly reasonable category. The fact that the sate takes its name from a river does not mean that all places are on the river.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Mac OS software

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename/merge as set out by . Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:36, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mac OS software to Category:MacOS software
 * Nominator's rationale: Considerable overlap and nearly identical names. macOS is the current term for this particular operating system, so all content should be merged in that direction Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the two operating systems were very different, and Category:Classic Mac OS software does not belong within the current Category:macOS software. Note that there are various sub-categories called "Mac OS" which themselves contain "Classic Mac OS" and "macOS" sub-cats and should also have been included in the nomination. I agree that there is a problem with the category names being nearly identical, so I suggest renaming to Category:Macintosh software, like the sub-cats Category:Macintosh software stubs and Category:Macintosh game covers. Other sub-cats with "Mac OS" in the name (but not "Classic Mac OS") should likewise be renamed from "Mac OS" to "Macintosh". "Mac" on its own should also be expanded to "Macintosh". However, the parent Category:Mac OS should now be renamed to Category:Macintosh operating systems, per its main article Macintosh operating systems. The full list for renaming is therefore:
 * Category:Mac OS software to Category:Macintosh software
 * Category:Backup software for Mac OS to Category:Macintosh backup software
 * Category:Mac software companies to Category:Macintosh software companies
 * Category:Mac OS games to Category:Macintosh games
 * Category:Mac OS-only games to Category:Macintosh-only games
 * Category:Cancelled Mac OS games to Category:Cancelled Macintosh games
 * Category:Mac OS graphics software to Category:Macintosh graphics software
 * Category:Mac OS-only software to Category:Macintosh-only software
 * Category:Mac OS multimedia software to Category:Macintosh multimedia software
 * Category:Mac OS media players to Category:Macintosh media players
 * Category:Mac OS web browsers to Category:Macintosh web browsers
 * Category:Screenshots of Mac software to Category:Screenshots of Macintosh software
 * Category:Screenshots of Mac games to Category:Screenshots of Macintosh games
 * Category:Mac OS to Category:Macintosh operating systems
 * Category:Mac OS development to Category:Macintosh operating systems development
 * Category:Mac OS APIs to Category:Macintosh operating systems APIs
 * Category:Icons of Mac OS to Category:Icons of Macintosh operating systems
 * Category:Mac OS people to Category:Macintosh operating systems people
 * Category:Mac OS user interface to Category:Macintosh operating systems user interface
 * Category:Mac OS character encodings to Category:Classic Mac OS character encodings
 * Category:Evertype Mac OS character encodings to Category:Evertype Classic Mac OS character encodings

– Fayenatic  L ondon 11:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per what Fayenatic said. There have been two main lines of OS for Macintosh, the classic Mac OS line and the Mac OS X/OS X/macOS line, with the latter being a completely different OS that has, earlier in its history, offered various mechanisms for running software for the former (the Classic Environment, which ran classic Mac OS binaries inside a simulated classic Mac OS, and Carbon plus Preferred Executable Format (PEF) support in Launch Services (if Boring Old exec fails, Launch Services would run a "PEF runner" program and hand it the file), which allowed application developers to build binaries that would run natively on both the classic Mac OS and Mac OS X).  If using "Mac OS" to refer collectively to both OSes is confusing people, then replacing it with "Macintosh" seems a reasonable fix.
 * And the only native macOS character encodings are UTF-8 (at the UN*X layer) and UTF-16 (on disk in HFS+ and in some layers running atop the UN*X layer), so, yes, there's no need to rename Category:Mac OS character encodings. Guy Harris (talk) 17:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * So should the encodings cats be renamed Classic Mac OS? – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, for the character encodings, "Mac OS" -> "Classic Mac OS" makes sense; they're only used in macOS for backwards compatibility (less important over time). Guy Harris (talk) 08:28, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have added these to the nomination.– Fayenatic  L ondon 15:22, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose, completely agree with Fayenatic. OSes are completely different and the classic mac cats should be renamed to "Macintosh". Ryan Norton 20:10, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Er, no, the classic Mac OS cats do not need to be changed, but the parents over both Classic and current macOS should be renamed Macintosh. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Television series set in the 27th century

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge. I don't think there are any other TV series in the nominated target. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:22, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Television series set in the 27th century to Category:Fiction set in the 27th century
 * Nominator's rationale: Single-page category. Check if there are any more television series among the 48 articles currently at the target. –Laundry<b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Seems reasonable enough. Dimadick (talk) 08:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dual merge, also to Category:Television series set in the 3rd millennium. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Video games set in the 32nd century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in the 32nd century to Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in the 33rd century to Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in the 34th century to Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium
 * Propose merging Category:Video games set in the 35th century to Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium
 * Nominator's rationale: Each of these categories has only 1 or 2 pages. There are 6 pages in total, plus the subcategory Category:Video games set in the 31st century and a few other pages—enough to make a category for the entire 4th millennium. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:30, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Seems reasonable enough. Dimadick (talk) 08:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. I think the exact century of the plot is hardly WP:DEFINING in this case, as it is just intended to happen somewhere in the far future, all the events being speculative and unrelated to the century itself. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Per nom.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support As creator of 3 of the categories above, i agree that they should be merged into the above new category. D Eaketts (talk) 21:59, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per above. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Films set in the 40th century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Films set in the 40th century to Category:Fiction set in the 4th millennium
 * Nominator's rationale: Two pages, both from the same franchise. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Seems reasonable enough. Dimadick (talk) 08:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:06, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dual merge, also to Category:Films set in the future. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Television series set in the 31st century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Television series set in the 31st century to Category:Fiction set in the 31st century
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only 1 entry, Futurama. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Seems reasonable enough. Dimadick (talk) 08:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment There was an extraneous signature before the bulet point. It has been removed. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dual merge, also to Category:Television series set in the 4th millennium. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fiction set in the 32nd century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fiction set in the 32nd century


 * Propose deleting works set in the 32nd century


 * Propose deleting television series set in the 32nd century


 * Nominator's rationale: Only two entries in this tree, one of which is a specific season of the other. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose Merge instead to Category:Fiction set in the 4th millennium. Dimadick (talk) 08:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per Dimadick. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dual merge, also merge Category:Television series set in the 32nd century to Category:Television series set in the future. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge As creator of 2 of these categories, if i had known in the past that the Fiction in the 4th millennium category existed i could of easily of just put those articles into the new category instead. D Eaketts (talk) 22:05, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 22:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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