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Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ukraine

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated for consistency. MER-C 14:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ukraine to Category:Sportspeople by city in Ukraine
 * Nominator's rationale: They are all in cities Rathfelder (talk) 21:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge either way. Might it be better to reverse merge, to allow for the future possibility of town-specific categories? Grutness... wha?   15:58, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge or reverse merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge - there is Category:People by city in Ukraine but no Category:People by city or town in Ukraine (see Category:People by country and city). Oculi (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I dont think we are likely to see categories of sportspeople from towns in Ukraine in the near future. Rathfelder (talk) 22:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Centuries in Kiev

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:44, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Centuries in Kiev to Category:Centuries in Kyiv
 * Propose renaming Category:Decades in Kiev to Category:Decades in Kyiv
 * Propose renaming Chronological century and decade subcategories of the above
 * Nominator's rationale: Following the naming of parent articles Kyiv and History of Kyiv. For consistency in naming with parent, sibling, and many child categories and articles. To match the scheme and pattern of all other chronological categories, including after spelling or name changes, for example:


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Full list of proposed renamings:

—Michael Z. 20:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Centuries in Kiev → Category:Centuries in Kyiv
 * Category:19th century in Kiev → Category:19th century in Kyiv
 * Category:20th century in Kiev → Category:20th century in Kyiv
 * Category:21st century in Kiev → Category:21st century in Kyiv
 * Category:Decades in Kiev → Category:Decades in Kyiv
 * Category:1900s in Kiev → Category:1900s in Kyiv
 * Category:1910s in Kiev → Category:1910s in Kyiv
 * Category:1920s in Kiev → Category:1920s in Kyiv
 * Category:1940s in Kiev → Category:1940s in Kyiv
 * Category:1960s in Kiev → Category:1960s in Kyiv
 * Category:1970s in Kiev → Category:1970s in Kyiv
 * Category:1980s in Kiev → Category:1980s in Kyiv
 * Category:1990s in Kiev → Category:1990s in Kyiv
 * Category:2000s in Kiev → Category:2000s in Kyiv
 * Category:2010s in Kiev → Category:2010s in Kyiv
 * Support for consistency with the previous renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - per Kyiv, . Oculi (talk) 12:03, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - per nom,, etc. Lev!vich 23:38, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support To match main article. Dimadick (talk) 15:27, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Contrary to some views that have been expressed, usage of Kiev vs. Kyiv is not a matter of an automatic cut-off date such as the early 1990s, it is a matter of context. In these chronology categories, the modern designation should therefore take precedence, for the entire tree. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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MBC TV

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:45, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation original programming to Category:MBC TV original programming
 * Propose renaming Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation television dramas to Category:MBC TV television dramas
 * Nominator's rationale: per, these categories are only about MBC TV. St3095   (?)  13:39, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Question, shouldn't we then also rename the parent Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No, it should not. If you oppose this proposal and the result of this discussion is not renamed, then I'll go to WP:RM/TR to revert the article title. St3095   (?)  05:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no intention of opposing the proposal, in fact let me be clearer about that, I support the rename as proposed. If I understand correctly MBC TV is a channel and Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation is the company behind the channel. Most content in Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation seems to be about the channel rather than about the company, hence my question whether the nomination should be expanded. Or should Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation be split? Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation shall NOT be split. St3095   (?)  17:08, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Why not? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If it should be split, then Category:MBC TV will be a part of Category:Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation. So, I changed my mind. It may be splitted. St3095   (?)  05:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support because "Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation" is the name of the company, not the channel. — Ð W (T•C) 06:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series) characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:46, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting teenage mutant ninja turtles (1987 tv series) characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant. ★Trekker (talk) 11:24, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Questions, for what reason is it redundant, and shouldn't it be merged rather than deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * All the characters are already in Category:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles characters. None of these characters are specific to one series.★Trekker (talk) 12:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds reasonable. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 TV series) characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting teenage mutant ninja turtles (2003 tv series) characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant. ★Trekker (talk) 11:23, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Questions, for what reason is it redundant, and shouldn't it be merged rather than deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles guest characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting teenage mutant ninja turtles guest characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Non defining. ★Trekker (talk) 11:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Ukrainian people by locality

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Ukrainian sportspeople by locality to Category:Ukrainian sportspeople
 * Propose merging Category:Ukrainian people by locality to Category:Ukrainian people by location
 * Propose deleting categories by locality in ukraine


 * Nominator's rationale: This only contains Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ukraine. It doesnt seem helpful to separate locality from location. Rathfelder (talk) 10:27, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - there are 125 'by locality' categories, which might benefit from similar merges (eg Category:People by nationality and location is consistent except for 'British' and Sri Lanka). Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ukraine should also be merged into Category:Sportspeople by city in Ukraine. Oculi (talk) 11:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Wrongly-named duplicates. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Articles missing payload orbit parameters from October 2015

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting articles missing payload orbit parameters from october 2015


 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary over-maintenance. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:25, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. I created this category because it was listed at Special:WantedCategories.  It is populated by No orbit for payload.
 * I have no view on its merits, but will notify the relevant WikiProjects. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Notifications: WikiProject Spaceflight and WikiProject Rocketry . --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - we have 23 articles in total with this maintenance box and it's time-independent, making categories for months is pointless. --mfb (talk) 19:31, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject Space Colonization

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy withdrawn. Found some categories to include in this defunct WPJ. (non-admin closure) Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject space colonization


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one page in this category, which is a defunct WPJ. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Violence in Palestine
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Category:Films directed by Scud (Danny Cheng Wan-Cheung)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 17:54, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films directed by Scud (Danny Cheng Wan-Cheung) to Category:Films directed by Scud (filmmaker)
 * Nominator's rationale: If this category name is going to contain disambiguation, it should match the disambiguation for the article Scud (filmmaker). Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:29, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Shorter titles are easier to use. Dimadick (talk) 15:37, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Filipino people by occupation

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional Filipino people. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 22:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional filipino people by occupation


 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in the category. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 03:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Question, shouldn't it be merged to Category:Fictional Filipino people? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Fictional Filipino people per Marcocapelle. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Technology-related YouTube channels

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 17:53, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Technology-related YouTube channels to Category:Technology YouTubers
 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Technology-related YouTube channels is populated solely by a subcategory, Category:Technology YouTubers. This is my first time at CfD, so I'm not familiar with the common arguments, but I feel like this makes it a redundant category.  Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 02:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, as a redundant category layer, but rather upmerge to its parent categories instead of downmerge, just for a technical reason. I've noticed that automated downmerging does not change the parenting, while upmerging does. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about categories and I trust that you do, so that sounds good to me!  Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 03:01, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


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Ministry of Intelligence (Iran)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 17:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People of Ministry of Intelligence to Category:People of the Ministry of Intelligence (Iran)
 * Propose renaming Category:Deputies of Ministry of Intelligence to Category:Deputies of the Ministry of Intelligence (Iran)
 * Nominator's rationale: The parent category is and the head article is Ministry of Intelligence (Iran); I propose renaming these categories to match. I also propose adding a "the" to each category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:20, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom but this should really be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename as nom. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:People of the Al Mukhabarat Al A'amah

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 17:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People of the Al Mukhabarat Al A'amah to Category:People of the General Intelligence Presidency
 * Nominator's rationale: Al Mukhabarat Al A'amah redirects to General Intelligence Presidency. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:16, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak support just because the article is currently at that name. It sounds like a poor translation though. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


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Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 17:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People of the SVR to Category:People of the Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia)
 * Propose renaming Category:Directors of the SVR to Category:Directors of the Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia)
 * Propose renaming Category:SVR officers to Category:Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia) officers
 * Nominator's rationale: SVR is ambiguous. The parent category is and the head article is Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename, likely speedies too, per WP:C2D and WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename as nom. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Critics of Humanism
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:12, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Critics of Humanism to Category:Critics of humanism
 * Nominator's rationale: I believe that "humanism" should not be capitalized. The article Humanism generally does not capitalize the term in running text. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:56, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:34, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this vague and generally dubious category - with only 3 obscure Anglophone members it would be laughably underpopulated if taken seriously. I'd doubt it is defining for any of them. Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not oppose deletion either, in its current state the category does not serve a purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jonhnbod. Inclusion criteria seem to be arbitrary or unclear. Rename if kept. Place Clichy (talk) 14:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete it's better to use categories such as Category:20th-century British philosophers to categorize people and use text (e.g. at Humanism and in the people's articles) to discuss details. DexDor(talk) 18:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Critics of Modernism
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  05:12, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Critics of Modernism to Category:Critics of modernism
 * Nominator's rationale: I believe that "modernism" should not be capitalized. The article Modernism does not capitalize the term in running text. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:34, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Ridiculous category with only one really obscure member (avg 2 views a day), for whom this is probably not defining - if one knew what it meant. Really there is nothing in the stub article to justify this category. Too vague - Category:Critics of Modern art might have a chance, or critics of so-called Modernism in theology. If kept, do not rename - Modernism should capitalize in text & probably used to. Johnbod (talk) 17:23, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jonhnbod. This applies to either too many people, or too few. Rename if kept. Place Clichy (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not oppose deletion either, in its current state the category does not serve a purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


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