Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 18



ASEAN

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:ASEAN (over redirect)
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations events to Category:ASEAN events
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations meetings to Category:ASEAN meetings
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations sports events to Category:ASEAN sports events
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations heritage parks to Category:ASEAN heritage parks
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations laws to Category:ASEAN laws
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations treaties to Category:ASEAN treaties
 * Propose renaming Category:Member states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:Member states of ASEAN
 * Propose renaming Category:Organizations associated with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:Organizations associated with ASEAN
 * Propose renaming Category:Association of Southeast Asian Nations people to Category:ASEAN people
 * Propose renaming Category:Ambassadors to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:Ambassadors to ASEAN
 * Propose renaming Category:Ambassadors of Australia to the Association of South East Asian Nations to Category:Ambassadors of Australia to ASEAN
 * Propose renaming Category:Ambassadors of the United States to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:Ambassadors of the United States to ASEAN
 * Propose renaming Category:Secretaries-General of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Category:Secretaries-General of ASEAN
 * Nominator's rationale: After a formal move discussion, Association of Southeast Asian Nations was moved to ASEAN. I suggest renaming the categories to match. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, I wonder if the RM has been closed correctly. It rather looks as a case of no consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Only Weak support -- If this goes ahead, the expansion of the name should be in the headnote. I also wonder if the RM was correctly closed, as WP discourages the use of abbreviations that may be obscure to some people, but as long as the redirect from the full name is retained, it does not unduly matter.  However, there is merit in keeping category names short.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  20:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. The RM appears sufficiently sound, even though some of the 8:4 majority !votes were IP editors with poor English. I do not see the benefit of redirecting the full name; as it is so much longer, IMHO it is unlikely to be used. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:59, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Climate institutions and programs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting climate institutions and programs


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, recently I created the two subcategories. I don't think this needs to stay as a parent category, as it merely combines two relatively unrelated topics. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:TVA (Canadian TV network) television stations

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TVA (Canadian TV network) television stations to Category:TVA (Canadian TV network) stations
 * Nominator's rationale: Remove redundancy Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:22, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  18:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


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Kyiv

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Kiev to Category:Kyiv


 * Category:Airports in Kiev to Category:Airports in Kyiv
 * Category:Architecture in Kiev to Category:Architecture in Kyiv
 * Category:Art Nouveau architecture in Kiev to Category:Art Nouveau architecture in Kyiv
 * Category:Athletics in Kiev to Category:Athletics in Kyiv
 * Category:Baroque architecture in Kiev to Category:Baroque architecture in Kyiv
 * Category:Bridges in Kiev to Category:Bridges in Kyiv
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Kiev to Category:Buildings and structures in Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Burials in Kiev to Category:Burials in Kyiv
 * Category:Burials in Kiev by place to Category:Burials in Kyiv by place
 * Category:Business schools in Kiev to Category:Business schools in Kyiv
 * Category:Cathedrals in Kiev to Category:Cathedrals in Kyiv
 * Category:Cemeteries in Kiev to Category:Cemeteries in Kyiv
 * Category:Christianity in Kiev to Category:Christianity in Kyiv
 * Category:Churches in Kiev to Category:Churches in Kyiv
 * Category:Commercial buildings in Kiev to Category:Commercial buildings in Kyiv
 * Category:Companies based in Kiev to Category:Companies based in Kyiv
 * Category:Culture in Kiev to Category:Culture in Kyiv
 * Category:Death in Kiev to Category:Death in Kyiv
 * Category:Defunct universities and colleges in Kiev to Category:Defunct universities and colleges in Kyiv
 * Category:Destroyed landmarks in Kiev to Category:Destroyed landmarks in Kyiv
 * Category:Diplomatic missions in Kiev to Category:Diplomatic missions in Kyiv
 * Category:Economy of Kiev to Category:Economy of Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Education in Kiev to Category:Education in Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Educators from Kiev to Category:Educators from Kyiv
 * Category:Elections in Kiev to Category:Elections in Kyiv
 * Category:Entertainers from Kiev to Category:Entertainers from Kyiv
 * Category:Environment of Kiev to Category:Environment of Kyiv
 * Category:Events in Kiev to Category:Events in Kyiv
 * Category:Faculty by university or college in Kiev to Category:Faculty by university or college in Kyiv
 * Category:Films set in Kiev to Category:Films set in Kyiv
 * Category:Films shot in Kiev to Category:Films shot in Kyiv
 * Category:Football clubs in Kiev to Category:Football clubs in Kyiv
 * Category:Football venues in Kiev to Category:Football venues in Kyiv
 * Category:Footballers from Kiev to Category:Footballers from Kyiv
 * Category:Former buildings and structures of Kiev to Category:Former buildings and structures of Kyiv
 * Category:Former populated places in Kiev to Category:Former populated places in Kyiv
 * Category:Geography of Kiev to Category:Geography of Kyiv
 * Category:Government of Kiev to Category:Government of Kyiv
 * Category:Health in Kiev to Category:Health in Kyiv
 * Category:Hills of Kiev to Category:Hills of Kyiv
 * Category:Historic sites in Kiev to Category:Historic sites in Kyiv
 * Category:History of Kiev to Category:History of Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Hotels in Kiev to Category:Hotels in Kyiv
 * Category:Jews and Judaism in Kiev to Category:Jews and Judaism in Kyiv
 * Category:Kiev in fiction to Category:Kyiv in fiction
 * Category:Kiev metropolitan area to Category:Kyiv metropolitan area
 * Category:Kiev templates to Category:Kyiv templates
 * Category:Kiev-related lists to Category:Kyiv-related lists
 * Category:Landmarks in Kiev to Category:Landmarks in Kyiv
 * Category:Libraries in Kiev to Category:Libraries in Kyiv
 * Category:Magazines published in Kiev to Category:Magazines published in Kyiv
 * Category:Manufacturing companies based in Kiev to Category:Manufacturing companies based in Kyiv
 * Category:Mass media in Kiev to Category:Mass media in Kyiv
 * Category:Military history of Kiev to Category:Military history of Kyiv
 * Category:Models from Kiev to Category:Models from Kyiv
 * Category:Monuments and memorials in Kiev to Category:Monuments and memorials in Kyiv
 * Category:Mosques in Kiev to Category:Mosques in Kyiv
 * Category:Museums in Kiev to Category:Museums in Kyiv
 * Category:Music in Kiev to Category:Music in Kyiv
 * Category:Musical groups from Kiev to Category:Musical groups from Kyiv
 * Category:Musicians from Kiev to Category:Musicians from Kyiv
 * Category:National Landmarks in Kiev to Category:National Landmarks in Kyiv
 * Category:Natural history of Kiev to Category:Natural history of Kyiv
 * Category:Neighborhoods in Kiev to Category:Neighborhoods in Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Neoclassical architecture in Kiev to Category:Neoclassical architecture in Kyiv
 * Category:Novels set in Kiev to Category:Novels set in Kyiv
 * Category:Office buildings in Kiev to Category:Office buildings in Kyiv
 * Category:Organizations based in Kiev to Category:Organizations based in Kyiv
 * Category:Parks in Kiev to Category:Parks in Kyiv
 * Category:People by university or college in Kiev to Category:People by university or college in Kyiv
 * Category:People from Kiev to Category:People from Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:People from Kiev by occupation to Category:People from Kyiv by occupation
 * Category:Poets from Kiev to Category:Poets from Kyiv
 * Category:Political parties in Kiev to Category:Political parties in Kyiv
 * Category:Politicians from Kiev to Category:Politicians from Kyiv
 * Category:Politics of Kiev to Category:Politics of Kyiv
 * Category:Populated places in Kiev to Category:Populated places in Kyiv
 * Category:Protected areas of Kiev to Category:Protected areas of Kyiv
 * Category:Rail infrastructure in Kiev to Category:Rail infrastructure in Kyiv
 * Category:Rail transport in Kiev to Category:Rail transport in Kyiv
 * Category:Railroad bridges in Kiev to Category:Railroad bridges in Kyiv
 * Category:Railway buildings and structures in Kiev to Category:Railway buildings and structures in Kyiv
 * Category:Railway stations in Kiev to Category:Railway stations in Kyiv
 * Category:Religion in Kiev to Category:Religion in Kyiv
 * Category:Religious buildings and structures in Kiev to Category:Religious buildings and structures in Kyiv
 * Category:Religious leaders from Kiev to Category:Religious leaders from Kyiv
 * Category:Research institutes in Kiev to Category:Research institutes in Kyiv
 * Category:Retail buildings in Kiev to Category:Retail buildings in Kyiv
 * Category:Retailing in Kiev to Category:Retailing in Kyiv
 * Category:Rivers of Kiev to Category:Rivers of Kyiv
 * Category:Road bridges in Kiev to Category:Road bridges in Kyiv
 * Category:Roads in Kiev to Category:Roads in Kyiv
 * Category:Schools in Kiev to Category:Schools in Kyiv
 * Category:Science and technology in Kiev to Category:Science and technology in Kyiv
 * Category:Scientists from Kiev to Category:Scientists from Kyiv
 * Category:Shopping malls in Kiev to Category:Shopping malls in Kyiv
 * Category:Shops in Kiev to Category:Shops in Kyiv
 * Category:Songs about Kiev to Category:Songs about Kyiv
 * Category:Sport in Kiev to Category:Sport in Kyiv
 * Category:Sports competitions in Kiev to Category:Sports competitions in Kyiv
 * Category:Sports venues in Kiev to Category:Sports venues in Kyiv
 * Category:Sportspeople from Kiev to Category:Sportspeople from Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Squares in Kiev to Category:Squares in Kyiv
 * Category:State companies based in Kiev to Category:State companies based in Kyiv
 * Category:Streets in Kiev to Category:Streets in Kyiv
 * Category:Symbols of Kiev to Category:Symbols of Kyiv
 * Category:Synagogues in Kiev to Category:Synagogues in Kyiv
 * Category:Television shows set in Kiev to Category:Television shows set in Kyiv
 * Category:Theatres in Kiev to Category:Theatres in Kyiv
 * Category:Tourism in Kiev to Category:Tourism in Kyiv
 * Category:Tourist attractions in Kiev to Category:Tourist attractions in Kyiv over redirect
 * Category:Transport in Kiev to Category:Transport in Kyiv
 * Category:Transportation buildings and structures in Kiev to Category:Transportation buildings and structures in Kyiv
 * Category:Transportation infrastructure in Kiev to Category:Transportation infrastructure in Kyiv
 * Category:Universities and colleges in Kiev to Category:Universities and colleges in Kyiv
 * Category:Universities and colleges in Kiev by type to Category:Universities and colleges in Kyiv by type
 * Category:Urban districts of Kiev to Category:Urban districts of Kyiv
 * Category:Writers from Kiev to Category:Writers from Kyiv


 * Nominator's rationale: Rename all per the main article which was moved to Kyiv this week following years of discussion. Many categories have been proposed for speedy renaming but opposed on the basis of a naming convention (details below); however matching the main article traditionally takes precedence over conventions on such matters. Given the widespread back and forth editing since the page move it's critical to get a clear decision about the tree ASAP.


 * I have not included categories with formal names, titles or by year/decade century as these will need additional consideration in their own right. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Category:Monuments and memorials in Kiev to Category:Monuments and memorials in Kyiv – Reason 46.116.4.50 (talk) 22:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose this one and the rest of the Kiev -> Kyiv renames, per WP:KIEV. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:KIEV is no longer valid, as the article has been moved after due process to Kyiv. So the oppose is not valid. Oculi (talk) 11:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps these should go on hold pending revision of WP:KIEV. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:11, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Why should anybody care about CFD if it is technically possible and politically advantageous to move everything without discussion? In my native language, we have a saying which approximately translates "If you have lost your head, do not regret a loss of hairs".--Ymblanter (talk) 05:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I have reverted that out-of-process move. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I appreciate this, but we have currently ongoing mass out-process moves (example 1, example 2 and even mass-replacements leading to population of redirected categories example 3. This is exactly the typo of disruption I predicted would be ongoing, and we just do not have resources to track all this. People are just not interested in discussing the moves (and articles are mass-moved without any discussion as well), they are just happy that they finally got a chance to promote their political agenda.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I opened Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, but I am not really looking forward to any solution.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with . Our naming convention pages are important. If we have consensus that they're no longer valid, we should update the conventions first and only then start renaming. If WP:KIEV gets changed (and the change sticks), then consider my oppose withdrawn. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Libraries in Kiev to Category:Libraries in Kyiv – Reason 46.116.4.50 (talk) 22:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Hotels in Kiev to Category:Hotels in Kyiv – Reason 46.116.4.50 (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Diplomatic missions in Kiev to Category:Diplomatic missions in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 21:58, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Shops in Kiev to Category:Shops in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 20:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Shopping malls in Kiev to Category:Shopping malls in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Retail buildings in Kiev to Category:Retail buildings in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 20:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Commercial buildings in Kiev to Category:Commercial buildings in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Burials at Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev to Category:Burials at Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Burials in Kiev by place to Category:Burials in Kyiv by place – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Burials in Kiev to Category:Burials in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Cemeteries in Kiev to Category:Cemeteries in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Neoclassical architecture in Kiev to Category:Neoclassical architecture in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Baroque architecture in Kiev to Category:Baroque architecture in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Art Nouveau architecture in Kiev to Category:Art Nouveau architecture in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Architecture in Kiev to Category:Architecture of Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Former buildings and structures of Kiev to Category:Former buildings and structures of Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752. 46.116.4.50 (talk) 19:02, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Kiev to Category:Buildings and structures in Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752 46.116.4.50 (talk) 18:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Kiev-related lists to Category:Kyiv-related lists – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752 46.116.4.50 (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Kiev to Category:Kyiv – Per move of Kiev to Kyiv, per Special:Diff/978661752 46.116.4.50 (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support this selection of categories, which leaves other formal names which may be moved after another specific discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 07:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Sounds right. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:27, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support . Starzoner (talk) 23:56, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It has been raised in a discussion on that the naming conventions at WP:KIEV should be adapted before making large moves, especially to clarify to which extent the Kyiv spelling is now recommended, or not.  pinging contributors in this discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 12:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, now that the nominator has gone to the trouble of making this nomination, it should run; and if it is approved, that plus the RM will be sufficient authority to update WP:KIEV. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:KYIV is not a policy or guideline, but defines itself as a summary of other conventions. Those conventions have been applied to move the article Kiev to Kyiv, and Kiev Oblast to Kyiv Oblast. It needs to be updated, or better yet, cut down or removed so it stops being used to stall other progress. —Michael Z. 18:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * And, WP:KYIV has now been updated. —Michael Z. 20:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support -- I suspect that this is an issue of the correct transliteration of Cyrillic into Latin script. However leave cat- redirects, as Kiev has long been the usual English spelling.  Thus in English we write Brussels, not Bruxelles; Rome, not Roma; Naples, not Napoli; and Venice.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support renaming both lists. The article Kyiv is renamed, after six months of moratorium and two and a half of debate. Let’s get on with it, starting with these no-brainers. —Michael Z. 18:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support––Geohem (talk) 08:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Neutral. In my experience, discussions on en.wp about the Kiev/Kyiv spelling variation have been driven far more by the intense personal passions of some editors than by application of the policy WP:AT. The latest RM a partial exception to that, because it does include sources such as style guides of major news outlets. However, the discussion was marred by features such as off-wiki canvasing, a lot of me-too-style !voting, and the presentation of false evidence such as bodged google searches which check ti he end of the results to get the real tally.
 * The RM was closed as "move", and as not been overturned; so I will not oppose renaming the categories. But i have too little confidence in this RM to actually support renaming the categories. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:46, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. Since this nomination began, the following categories have been created: Category:Television presenters from Kiev; Category:Physicians from Kiev; Category:Military personnel from Kiev; Category:Engineers from Kiev; Category:Businesspeople from Kiev; Category:Film people from Kiev; Category:Diplomats from Kiev; Category:Actors from Kiev; Category:Journalists from Kiev. I don't know if this was an attempt to prove a point or not, but I think it's best to assume that it was completely coincidental. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Its a coincidence. I was already working on the Ukraine categories.  I am agnostic on this question, but if we go to Kyiv I will speedily rename them. Rathfelder (talk) 20:27, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Like BHG I'm not entirely convinced that the move from Kiev to Kyiv was the correct decision, and I suspect that it is going to remain a heated topic, but the move happened, it is currently uncontested, and it happened long enough ago that I think we can consider the current name stable. The categories should use the same spelling as the main article. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - it is standard to rename categories in line with in-process renames of their main article. To judge from the talkpage of Kyiv there is a 12-month moratorium on further discussions of the name (until Sept 21, on Talk:Kyiv/naming). Oculi (talk) 14:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - The categories should match the articles. The articles have been moved. The RM hasn't been challenged and there's a moratorium for a year, so the name will be stable at least that long. Lev!vich 15:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Programs

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 * The result of the discussion was: make Category:Programs a disambiguation category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:37, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Programs to Category:Projects
 * Nominator's rationale: synonyms in this context; the "collaborative" qualifier seems to be missed by many editors. fgnievinski (talk) 01:05, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Not too sure. If they would be synonyms we could also speak of Government projects and Social projects but that does not sound correctly. Programs have the connotation of ongoing activities, projects are more temporary. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * oppose I think it is valuable to distinguish between an ongoing long-term programm and a short-term more one and done project Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 10:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Highly ambiguous (computing, tv.. who knows), US-only spelling. Johnbod (talk) 20:11, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  18:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Johnbod has a fair point regarding TV and computing. Alternative suggestion: convert this to a category disambiguation page, linking to Category:Government programs, Category:Social programs, Category:Television programming and Category:Computer programming. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Make into dabpage per Marcocapelle: a dab-category would be a useful way to resolve this problem. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Asmodea Oaktree. I also support disambiguation, but would include Category:Television shows rather than "programming". Also, replicate the result at Category:Programmes. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Make into dabpage This is crazy ambiguous. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:History (TV channel) original shows

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 * The result of the discussion was: Split Timrollpickering (talk) 13:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:History (TV channel) original shows to Category:History Television original programming and Category:History (American TV channel) original programming
 * Nominator's rationale: The content of this category should be split as follows:

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Programs that were originally broadcast on History (American TV channel) should be placed in Category:History (American TV channel) original programming.
 * Programs that were originally broadcast on History (Canadian TV network) up until August 12, 2012 should be placed in Category:History Television original programming.
 * Programs that were originally broadcast on History (Canadian TV network) from August 12, 2012 should be placed in Category:History (Canadian TV network) original programming. Gonnym (talk) 10:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedians who have written a humorous essay

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who have written a humorous essay


 * Nominator's rationale: This user category is not particularly useful for the development of an encyclopedia. I see no need to identify Wikipedians who have created humourous essays. Whpq (talk) 15:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:USERCATNO. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who like Zach Callison

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who like zach callison


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:USERCATNO as category that is overly narrow in scope and of no relevance to the development of an encyclopedia. Whpq (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:USERCATNO. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who enjoy Hamilton quotes

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 10:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who enjoy hamilton quotes


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:USERCATNO as a category that is overly narrow in scope and with no significant relevance to developing an encyclopedia. Whpq (talk) 15:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this and all of this contributor's WP:NOTHERE nonsense. Cabayi (talk) 20:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:USERCATNO. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Space transport
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Category:Proposed public policies

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 09:38, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Proposed public policies to Category:Proposed laws
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicative WP:SMALLCAT. –Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 13:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose, not every proposed public policy leads to proposed law. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:08, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- most of the content is not about proposed laws. We might rename to Category:Policy proposals, but even that may not quite fit.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Economy of Kiev Oblast
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Economy of Kiev Oblast to Category:Economy of Kyiv Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: per Talk:Kyiv Starzoner (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, it is inconsistent with Category:Kiev Oblast and the rest of the category tree. If renamed, it should be done in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile the procedural oppose is no longer relevant, since all Kiev categories are nominated somewhere. Support for consistency with the earlier renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose there is no evidence that Kiev Oblast needs to be renamed using Kyiv, and the RM at Kyiv/Kiev is only about the city. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment -- Having renamed the city and its categories, it is ridiculous not to rename the oblast (county) that shares its name. I would suggest a rename for the main article (perhaps even a speedy one) followed by renaming this and siblings.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename  Kyiv Oblast has already been speedy renamed after its RM was closed early. —Michael Z. 20:41, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Kurwa
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 * The result of the discussion was: has already been deleted per WP:G3. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:39, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kurwa


 * Nominator's rationale: No known definition of category, from Sony to highway roads. Name means "fuck" in polish. <span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter ( 📬 │ ✏️ ) 08:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Starship Troopers navigational boxes
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Category:Suspense
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 10:12, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Suspense to Category:Thrillers
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, unclear how this category distinguishes itself from its parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Category:Suspense to Category:Suspense (genre) – C2D: Suspense (genre), Suspense is just the feeling. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Justin: as Suspense (genre) redirects to Thriller (genre), doesn't this justify a speedy upmerge to Category:Thrillers, and renaming/merging of its subcats? I'm not sure that that would be best, though. The article Thriller (genre) only mentions suspense as a characteristic of thrillers, not as a sub-genre. However, I feel that Suspense might be a better target for the redirect. If that is done then I would not oppose your nomination. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy C2D doesn’t apply to redirects. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * @Armbrust, then do it per C2B. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to earlier CFDS rename discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Merge per nom Most of the articles included in this category have "thriller" as part of the title. Dimadick (talk) 08:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment Are the childcats taken into account here? Because there are a few.★Trekker (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * User:& has a fair point. These are the subcategories to be added to this nomination (I will also tag these pages):
 * Propose merging Category:Suspense novels to Category:Thriller novels
 * Propose merging Category:American suspense novels to Category:American thriller novels
 * Propose merging Category:Suspense television series to Category:Thriller television series
 * Propose merging Category:Tamil-language suspense television series to Category:Tamil-language thriller television series
 * Propose merging Category:Suspense web series to Category:Thriller web series
 * pinging earlier contributor to this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Washington Redskins broadcasters
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete both. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:46, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Washington Redskins broadcasters to Category:Washington Football Team broadcasters
 * Nominator's rationale: For obvious reasons Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:52, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete a WP:PERF category. Most of the things in this category do more than broadcast for the team. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Carlossuarez46. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * Procedural comment there is now a Category:Washington Football Team broadcasters, created on 11 August by User:Dissident93. The issue is now no longer to rename but to merge, and it may be an issue to be discussed at the entire Category:Washington Redskins/Category:Washington Football Team level: to which extent would it be desirable to keep separate categories for content related to the period where the old name was in use, or is it considered to be one single organization all through? Also, if deleted, probably the entire Category:National Football League announcers by team needs to be discussed. Place Clichy (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Notwithstanding my comment above, per WP:PERFCAT this probably needs to be deleted. Place Clichy (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Tagged New/Target Category Category:Washington Football Team broadcasters is tagged as of today. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Both Per WP:PERFCAT. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional time periods
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The category currently contains only Hyborian Age, which is already in one of the parents, Category:Mythopoeia, and in a sibling, Category:Fantasy worlds. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:33, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional time periods


 * Nominator's rationale: This is a WP:SMALLCAT with only two articles. Seeing as most fiction, by definition, is a fictional period of time where fictional things happen, I also think this risks being a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. These are already covered just fine at fictional worlds (which could be renamed fictional settings). Shooterwalker (talk) 21:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose as SMALLCAT's "by their very definition" doesn't apply here. The articles (e.g. Hyborian Age) are specifically about fictional time periods and even if this category is deleted should be upmerged. DexDor(talk) 19:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The main issue here is the WP:SMALLCAT. When you say "the articles", you're talking about one article. I'm not opposed to an upmerge if there's a suitable target. The best target is probably "Fantasy Worlds", and the target Hyborian Age is already categorized there. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete (or merge if a suitable merge target is available) per WP:SMALLCAT and it is very unlikely that we will ever have many other separate articles about fictional time periods (as normally fictional time periods are just an element in an article about a fictional work). Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to parent Category:Historical eras. These are simply fictional versions of the same concept. Dimadick (talk) 08:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete Too small. Merging fictional instalments into Category:Historical eras does not make sense to me.★Trekker (talk) 05:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fictional historical eras are rarely common between several unrelated fictional universes. They are therefore not really separable from the fictional universe they belong too, and classified as such. This is not true of all fictional events or settings, e.g. World War III or post-nuclear apocalypse are fictional themes shared by a lot of unrelated fictional universes. You cannot say the same for the Hyborian Age, or any other hypothetical fictional historical era. Place Clichy (talk) 14:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete/Listify. Too small for a cat, but a list will allow the fictional eras without stand-alone articles to be grouped together. Grutness... wha?   01:50, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * IIRC, the list was deleted with a consensus at AFD, due to this being indiscriminate. Every fictional setting is also a fictional time. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep -- For a category such as this we ought to merge, rather than delete. However there is no obvious merge target.  I think this might be populated with some of the future centuries, beloved of science fiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs) 14:58, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Medicine worksheet templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 10:10, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Medicine worksheet templates to Category:Medicine reference value templates
 * Nominator's rationale: This category has a mix of templates for different reasons. It's unclear what characteristics link the contents. I think the thing that links the most contents is that they contain reference values, sometimes ranges, sometimes values, so I propose a rename to better reflect the category's purpose. Tom (LT) (talk) 23:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Companies based in Kiev Oblast
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Companies based in Kiev Oblast to Category:Companies based in Kyiv Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: per Talk:Kyiv Starzoner (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, it is inconsistent with Category:Kiev Oblast and the rest of the category tree. If renamed, it should be done in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile the procedural oppose is no longer relevant, since all Kiev categories are nominated somewhere. Support for consistency with the earlier renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose there is no evidence that Kiev Oblast needs to be renamed using Kyiv, and the RM at Kyiv/Kiev is only about the city. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support  Kyiv Oblast was moved early after the one and only objection was dropped. —Michael Z. 20:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:State companies based in Kiev Oblast
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:State companies based in Kiev Oblast to Category:State companies based in Kyiv Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: per Talk:Kyiv Starzoner (talk) 00:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, it is inconsistent with Category:Kiev Oblast and the rest of the category tree. If renamed, it should be done in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile the procedural oppose is no longer relevant, since all Kiev categories are nominated somewhere. Support for consistency with the earlier renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose there is no evidence that Kiev Oblast needs to be renamed using Kyiv, and the RM at Kyiv/Kiev is only about the city. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support  Kyiv Oblast was moved early, ten days ago, due to full consensus. —Michael Z. 20:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:People from Kiev Oblast
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Kiev Oblast to Category:People from Kyiv Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: Starzoner (talk) 00:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, it is inconsistent with Category:Kiev Oblast and the rest of the category tree. If renamed, it should be done in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile the procedural oppose is no longer relevant, since all Kiev categories are nominated somewhere. Support for consistency with the earlier renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose there is no evidence that Kiev Oblast needs to be renamed using Kyiv, and the RM at Kyiv/Kiev is only about the city. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support  Kyiv Oblast was moved early, ten days ago, with unanimous consensus. —Michael Z. 20:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Kiev Polytechnic sports
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Igor Sikorsky Kyiv Polytechnic Institute. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 15:37, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Kiev Polytechnic sports to Category:Kyiv Polytechnic sports
 * Nominator's rationale: per Talk:Kyiv Starzoner (talk) 00:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to parent Category:Igor Sikorsky Kyiv Polytechnic Institute per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to parent Category:Igor Sikorsky Kyiv Polytechnic Institute per WP:SMALLCAT. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge up, or Rename. —Michael Z. 20:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Upmerge for Now with no objection to recreating under a different name if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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