Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 18



Category:Infobox person using boxwidth/influence/ethnicity/religion/denomination/home town parameter

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting infobox person using boxwidth parameter
 * Propose deleting infobox person using influence
 * Propose deleting infobox person using ethnicity
 * Propose deleting infobox person using religion
 * Propose deleting infobox person using denomination
 * Propose deleting infobox person using home town
 * (added 25 April) Propose deleting infobox person using residence
 * Nominator's rationale: These were temporary tracking categories to find uses of a deprecated parameter. All of the categories have been emptied by fixing template transclusions in articles. All such parameters have been removed from Infobox person, and the code that created these tracking categories has been removed from the template, so the categories can be deleted. Articles with new usages of any of these parameters will appear in . – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete they served their purpose. --Salix alba (talk): 13:30, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as obsolete. We did a great work in infobox standardisation using these categories. Now things are in a manageable scale. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:49, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as they have been emptied. The fields do still occasionally get used but the "Pages using infobox person with unknown parameters" cat will capture those for cleanup. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 23:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Process note: I have added, which qualifies under the same rationale. If this is out of process and should not be done, feel free to revert this change or do a procedural relisting to allow more time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete G6 deletion would be appropriate. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 17:34, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bilateral relations of U.S. states

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bilateral relations of u.s. states
 * bilateral relations of delaware‎
 * bilateral relations of illinois
 * bilateral relations of maryland‎
 * bilateral relations of massachusetts
 * bilateral relations of michigan‎
 * bilateral relations of new jersey‎
 * bilateral relations of new york (state)
 * bilateral relations of ohio‎
 * bilateral relations of pennsylvania‎
 * bilateral relations of virginia‎
 * bilateral relations of wisconsin
 * delaware–maryland relations‎
 * delaware–new jersey relations‎
 * delaware–pennsylvania relations‎
 * illinois–new york (state) relations‎
 * maryland–pennsylvania relations‎
 * maryland–virginia relations‎
 * massachusetts–new york (state) relations‎
 * michigan–ohio relations‎
 * michigan–wisconsin relations‎
 * new jersey–new york (state) relations
 * new jersey–pennsylvania relations‎
 * new york (state)–pennsylvania relations‎
 * ohio–pennsylvania relations‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Bilateral relations are relations between two sovereign states. U.S. states are not sovereign, so by definition, there cannot be bilateral relations. The articles used to populate these categories are trivial, and not defining. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:42, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete but for a different reason, WP:OVERLAPCAT. The articles in these categories are defined by interactions between states (although it's often multilateral) but are already well categorized under Category:Borders of U.S. states, Category:United States interstate agencies, and Category:United States Supreme Court original jurisdiction cases. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not familiar with the contents of each of these categories, but I would imagine they could be sub-categories of Category:Paradiplomacy. The topic of sub-national diplomacy in the USA is certainly notable, and on that basis I'm inclined to keep. But is it defining to the articles in question?  I don't know. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 17:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


 * No, they are almost completely articles on bridges and railroads. There is nothing related to diplomacy at all about almost all of these articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete most of the stuff here involves bridges and railraods that span multiple states. This is not what bilateral relations are, and makes no sense.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Upmerge and restructure -- Most of these are about border bridges etc, but there are a few items relating to boundary disputes. This will fill "bilateral relations of Boo and Foo" with articles (rather than these being containers).  These should then be merged to the relevant state category of Category:Borders of U.S. states by state.  This will have the effect of disposing of a wholly unnecessary tree, without the need manually to check that we are losing nothing in the process.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Empire of Austria (1867-1918)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming:
 * REDIRECT Category:Empire of Austria (1867-1918) to Category:Empire of Austria (1867–1918)
 * REDIRECT Category:Establishments in the Empire of Austria (1867-1918) to Category:Establishments in the Empire of Austria (1867–1918)
 * REDIRECT Category:Disestablishments in the Empire of Austria (1867-1918) to Category:Disestablishments in the Empire of Austria (1867–1918)
 * Nominator's rationale: These category have been created with a hyphen instead of a dash as required by MOS:DATERANGE, and could be renamed Speedily, but I thought it would be useful to have a full discussion on record. These categories have been created by emptying many single-year establishment categories out-of-process, such as Category:1882 establishments in Austria.  I believe it would have been best practice to list those categories at CFD for merger to "Empire of Austria", especially as there was no consensus to merge these at  Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_22 and Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_April_1 – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Notifying the category creator, and warning him about this behaviour, I found that he had previously been warned about exactly the same conduct on exactly the same topic, see User_talk:Laurel_Lodged. (permalink) He made no reply. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:22, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply It is not true to say that i made no reply. I created two discussions on two talk pages and pinged who complained. See Talk:Gaming Charterhouse. This nomination is an abuse of WP:CFD as the nominator has already confessed. It is nothing more that WP:POINTY finger pointing. By the way, I have also created "establishment" categories for many states of the Holy Roman Empire. It is likely, for example, that Category:Establishments in the Archduchy of Austria is probably a better home for many articles that are erroneously tagged to 18th and 19th century establishments in Austria.Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No idea if it worked for Liz, but for me the ping at that page didn't work. In any case, when you are contacted on your user talk page about edits to many pages, it is better to discuss it there, instead of on some disparate article talk pages: and reverting changes after you have been contacted and without replying is wrong. I'll repopulate the categories you emptied against consensus, and I would urge you very strongly to stop reverting this, as it would mean that a WP:ANI discussion would be necessary to force you to stop. Fram (talk) 07:49, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus to leave articles in incorrect categories. There was a suggestion to create categories for more precise geographic and time periods. This I did with the creation of these 3 nominated categories. The articles you complain of are now correctly categoried. Please stop the reversions of those articles to categories that are now unnecessary and incorrect. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:39, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename, simple spelling fix and (even while created out of process) I do not see a reason to discuss the existence of these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Market towns

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Market towns in the Czech Republic; delete Category:Market towns in Norway and Category:Ottoman market towns; no consensus on the rest. The discussion was impeded by procedural issues. Amongst other problems,, , and  were not nominated so it made little sense to delete . Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:31, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting market towns
 * Nominator's rationale: Confusing to have this for England in particular though if I look at Category:Ottoman market towns they aren't in a towns (or other settlement) category so maybe those should be kept. So I'd be fine with keeping some of the non-UK. In terms of Category:Market towns in England most towns in England appear to be market towns but only some are categorized as such anyway meaning that this largely duplicates Category:Towns in England making it harder to find towns if only some of a county's towns are in the market town's category, see WP:OVERLAPCAT. If deleted the articles should be checked to make sure that they are in an appropriate towns category.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - looking at Category:Towns in Derbyshire, there are 29 such, a few of which are (well-known) market towns; what is the problem? In any case deleting the top category will do nothing for the ones in England. (WP:OVERLAPCAT does not apply to subcats, as there is inevitably a 100% overlap.) Oculi (talk) 20:04, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * But aren't all of those in Category:Towns in Derbyshire also market towns? Along with England's other towns, that's a bit redundant when we can use the simpler term "Town" instead of "Market town" though a few villages might be market towns it seems easier to have them in the towns or villages category.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Bedford: "Bedford is a historic market and the county town of Bedfordshire, England". Most towns are not market towns. Oculi (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Which ones aren't?  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 07:51, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "A market town is a European settlement that obtained by custom or royal charter, in the Middle Ages, the right to host markets (market right), which distinguished it from a village or city." The ones (most of them) which did not obtain this right are not market towns (and will not be described as market towns, or having a historic market). Eg Staveley is not and Chesterfield is. Oculi (talk) 08:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Per Articles for deletion/Royal Leamington Spa Built-up area note that there is a long-standing geographic concept, undocumented and not on any to-do list in Wikipedia these two decades, of double towns a.k.a. town couples. I've cited a professor of geography there explaining that usually one is a market/port town and the other is usually residential/industrial, and noting a bunch of examples.  You can find various other experts explaining how towns like Bedford started out as double towns, using a slightly different but related definition of the concept.   You can even find people trying to form a more global perspective bemoaning this difference, and the confusion with twin towns.  &#9786;    Page also explains market towns specifically.
 * So the numerous industrial/residential halves of double towns are not market towns. No, we didn't know that we didn't have bridge-head town, either.  &#9786;  Uncle G (talk) 08:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, the subcategories are neither listed nor tagged, and we cannot just delete the top category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * At the request of Crouch, Swale, I have gone through and tagged the subcategories. In theory this was meant to be done by my bot, but I was having some issues, so I did it manually. The following subcategories have been tagged for this discussion:
 * Category:Market towns in the Czech Republic
 * Category:Market towns in Norway
 * Category:Ottoman market towns
 * Category:Market towns in Pakistan
 * Category:Market towns in Romania
 * Category:Market towns in Moldavia
 * Category:Market towns in Wallachia
 * Category:Market towns in Sweden
 * Category:Market towns in the United Kingdom
 * Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * All the sub-sub-cats need to tagged, eg . Oculi (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, please specify the merge target for every of the subcategories. That information is needed if only for the closer of the discussion in order to implement the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Still procedural oppose, for the above reasons. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * All the sub-sub-cats need to tagged, eg . Oculi (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, please specify the merge target for every of the subcategories. That information is needed if only for the closer of the discussion in order to implement the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Still procedural oppose, for the above reasons. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Norwegian and Ottoman categories, the Norwegian category contains electoral districts, the Ottoman category contains bazaars. I have not made up my mind yet about the others. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: my procedural oppose does not apply to these two categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment -- A good many years ago, we resolved the city/town/village issue by merging them all to populated places. That was a good solution in that it avoided semantic arguments as to status.  An English category might be viable as there are published lists of places with market charters, but this would not be useful as there are many places that have long ceased to have an active market.  Conversely, there are places where a market operates (or did so in modern times) without any charter.  My inclination is to merge to populated places.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment on the Category:Market towns in the Czech Republic. Market town (městys) is a distinct legal administrative term in the Czech Republic. Settlements in the country are categorized (from top down) into cities and towns, market towns and municipalities (villages). This categorization has broader implications, e.g. the money they receive from the government, the institutions they should have within their borders etc. Market town is therefore not a subjective wikipedia term here. - Darwinek (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep United Kingdom and subcats thereof as market towns have a specific meaning in the UK and only a minority of towns are market towns. Keep Czech Republic per Darwinek. No opinion on the others. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Collaborators with Nazi Germany by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting collaborators with nazi germany by ethnicity
 * arab collaborators with nazi germany
 * basque collaborators with nazi germany
 * bosnian muslim collaborators with nazi germany‎
 * breton collaborators with nazi germany‎
 * chechen collaborators with nazi germany‎
 * circassian collaborators with nazi germany‎
 * jewish collaborators with nazi germany‎
 * Nominator's rationale: Categorising Nazi collaborators by ethnicity is a highly inappropriate ethnic intersection. This tree was created by an indefinitely banned user and the ethnic categories present are notable in that they are exclusively of oppressed communities, which presents a highly selective view of Nazi colloraboration. The drivers of Nazi collaboration were typically political, thus this intersection of Nazis and ethnicity is not even historically useful or accurate. SFB 17:33, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment User:Subwayfan1998, User:RedEye98, User:Kingstowngalway, User:Peacemaker67 and User:Lysy created these categories, none of whom are blocked although they aren't all active. The parent category WAS created by a blocked editor, User:Zoupan though. I hope you notified all category creators of this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose as nominated, a merge target should be specified in order to keep the articles in the tree of Category:Collaborators with Nazi Germany, or else the categories should be kept. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose as nominated a merge cat is needed. A related issue is that in some parts of the world, there is a bit of confusion in terminology regarding nationality and ethnicity. The former Yugoslav countries, for example, where Serbian (both a nationality proper (since 2006 and pre-1918) is also an ethnicity. So we have "Serbian collaborators with Nazi Germany", despite the fact that they were of course of Yugoslav nationality at the time. The same applies to Slovenians, Croats etc in WWII, and therefore this is related, and perhaps that branch needs to be examined in the same light. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep (possibly move to "Breton nationalist collaborators with Nazi Germany‎") the Breton category at least since Bretons would consider themselves a nationality, not an ethnicity, and in these cases their collaboration was motivated by Breton nationalism. See Breton nationalism and World War II. Delete (don't merge) the Jewish category since collaborating was obviously not motivated by Jewish identity, and this terminology is considered problematic by many Holocaust scholars (eg. see here ). (t &#183; c)  buidhe  10:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I also recommend merge Chechen and Circassian -> Category:Soviet collaborators with Nazi Germany and Arab -> Category:Middle Eastern collaborators with Nazi Germany. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  10:18, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per buidhe--SoaringLL (talk) 05:21, 20 April 2021 (UTC) See Sockpuppet_investigations/יניב_הורון
 * Various I generally Support Buidhe -- Basque is a single item and should be upmerged. Breton and Jewish seem viable (as adequately populated).  The Bosnian one may be problematic and may be better repurposed as Yugoslav; this would be supporters of the movement promoted by the Nazis and supported by many Croats.  Chechen and Circassian -> Category:Soviet collaborators with Nazi Germany looks good and this could probably be populated further.  The Arab category is viable: merging it with Iranian and Turkish feels wrong.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There were several collaboration Jewish organizations in occupied Poland during the WW2. The Thirteen Dos drajcent (jidish) and Zagiew (Polish) were some of them. Their Jewish members were cooperating with Nazi German secret police Gestapo and SD. Jewish Zagiew Organization was supervising Judenrats including lists of Jewish Poles to be sent to the German concentration camps during the WW2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.94.10.200 (talk • contribs)
 * You may consider that to be collaboration but many scholars contest this terminology, and since it is contested, it's not appropriate to use as categorization. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - In reading the above discussion, I find it interesting that those who oppose or who suggest keeping, also seem to support merging to various subcats of Category:Collaborators with Nazi Germany by nationality. So there does not seem to be much in the way of support for keeping a "by ethnicity" tree for this. So with that in mind... - jc37 12:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Deprecate the "by ethnicity" tree for this. I do not oppose Upmerging all to Category:Collaborators with Nazi Germany, to allow for subsequent editorial diffusion to whatever appropriate subcats of that category, on a case-by-case basis. - jc37 12:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Heavenly Records artists

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming/merging Category:Heavenly Records artists to Category:Heavenly Recordings artists
 * Nominator's rationale: Nomination per Speedy#C2D: Consistency with main article's name. As well the correct name of the record label webpage and company is 'Heavenly Recordings' instead of 'Heavenly Records'. (Not being aware of the latter I accidentily started a new cat 'Heavenly Recordings artists'. It should be merged.) Just N. (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:People by autonomous community in Spain

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, though not the Basque ones or the conquistadors ones: there was no consensus to rename these. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Contents of Category:People by autonomous community in Spain to various


 * Category:Andalusian actors‎ to Category:Actors from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian architects to Category:Architects from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian artists to Category:Artists from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian painters to Category:Painters from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian people by occupation to Category:People from Andalusia by occupation
 * Category:Andalusian people‎ to Category:People from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian singers‎ to Category:Singers from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian tennis players to Category:Tennis players from Andalusia
 * Category:Andalusian writers to Category:Writers from Andalusia


 * Category:Aragonese actors‎ to Category:Actors from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese artists to Category:Artists from Andalusia
 * Category:Aragonese conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese painters to Category:Painters from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Aragon by occupation
 * Category:Aragonese people‎ to Category:People from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese sculptors to Category:Sculptors from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese singers‎ to Category:Singers from Aragon
 * Category:Aragonese sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Aragon


 * Category:Asturian actors‎ to Category:Actors from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian Benedictines to Category:Benedictines from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian businesspeople to Category:Businesspeople from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian chefs to Category:Chefs from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian painters to Category:Painters from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Asturias by occupation
 * Category:Asturian people‎ to Category:People from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian singers‎ to Category:Singers from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian tennis players‎ to Category:Tennis players from Asturias
 * Category:Asturian writers to Category:Writer from Asturias


 * Category:Balearic musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic painters to Category:Painters from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic people by island to Category:People from the Balearic Islands by island
 * Category:Balearic people by occupation‎ to Category:People from the Balearic Islands by occupation
 * Category:Balearic people‎ to Category:People from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Balearic Islands
 * Category:Balearic tennis players‎ to Category:Tennis players from the Balearic Islands


 * Category:Basque academics‎ to Category:Academics‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque actors‎ to Category:Actors from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque artists to Category:Artists from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque Baroque composers‎ to Category:Baroque composers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque classical composers‎ to Category:Classical composers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque classical musicians‎ to Category:Classical musicians‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque composers‎ to Category:Composers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque economists‎ to Category:Economists‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque explorers‎ to Category:Explorers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque farmers to Category:Farmers from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque film directors to Category:Film directors from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque golfers to Category:Golfers from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque Jesuits‎ to Category:Jesuits‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque journalists‎ to Category:Journalists‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque novelists‎ to Category:Novelists‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque opera composers‎ to Category:Opera composers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque painters‎ to Category:Painters‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque people by occupation to Category:People from the Basque Country (greater region) by occupation
 * Category:Basque philosophers to Category:Philosophers from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque politicians by party to Category:Politicians from the Basque Country (greater region) by country
 * Category:Basque politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque prisoners and detainees to Category:Prisoners and detainees from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque rebels‎ to Category:Rebels‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque Roman Catholic priests‎ to Category:Roman Catholic priests from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque rugby union players to Category:Rugby union players from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque sailors to Category:Sailors from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque sculptors‎ to Category:Sculptors‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque sociologists‎ to Category:Sociologists‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque tennis players to Category:Tennis players from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque translators to Category:Translators from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque triathletes‎ to Category:Triathletes‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque women by occupation to Category:Women from the Basque Country (greater region) by occupation
 * Category:Basque women in politics to Category:Women politicians from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque women writers‎ to Category:Women writers‎ from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque women to Category:Women from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Basque writers to Category:Writers from the Basque Country (greater region)
 * Category:Lists of Basque people to Category:Lists of people from the Basque Country (greater region)


 * Category:Canarian academics to Category:Academics from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian actors‎ to Category:Actors from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian artists to Category:Artists from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian Christian missionaries to Category:Christian missionaries from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian Christians to Category:Christians from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian film directors to Category:Film directors from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian historians to Category:Historians from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian Jesuits‎ to Category:Jesuits from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian men by occupation to Category:Men from the Canary Islands by occupation
 * Category:Canarian missionaries to Category:Missionaries from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian people by island to Category:People from the Canary Islands by island
 * Category:Canarian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from the Canary Islands by occupation
 * Category:Canarian people by religion to Category:People from the Canary Islands by religion
 * Category:Canarian people‎ to Category:People from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian Roman Catholic missionaries to Category:Roman Catholic missionaries from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian Roman Catholic priests to Category:Roman Catholic priests from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Canary Islands
 * Category:Canarian writers to Category:Writers from the Canary Islands


 * Category:Cantabrian actors‎ to Category:Actors from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian architects to Category:Architects from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian artists to Category:Artists from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian athletes to Category:Athletes from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian basketball players to Category:Basketball players from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian boxers to Category:Boxers from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian businesspeople to Category:Businesspeople from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian clergy to Category:Clergy from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian cross-country skiers to Category:Cross-country skiers from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian field hockey players to Category:Field hockey players from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian golfers to Category:Golfers from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian handball players to Category:Handball players from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian martial artists to Category:Martial artists from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian military personnel‎ to Category:Military personnel from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Cantabria by occupation
 * Category:Cantabrian people‎ to Category:People from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian rally drivers to Category:Rally drivers from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian sailors (sport) to Category:Sailors (sport) from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian sailors to Category:Sailors from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian scientists to Category:Scientists from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian singers‎ to Category:Singers from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Cantabria
 * Category:Cantabrian writers to Category:Writers from Cantabria


 * Category:Castilian people by occupation‎ to Category:Castilians


 * Category:Castilian-Leonese actors‎ to Category:Actors from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese artists to Category:Artists from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese painters to Category:Painters from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Castile and León by occupation
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese people‎ to Category:People from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese sculptors to Category:Sculptors from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Castile and León
 * Category:Castilian-Leonese writers to Category:Writers from Castile and León


 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan actors‎ to Category:Actors from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan artists to Category:Artists from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Castilla–La Mancha by occupation
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan people‎ to Category:People from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan sculptors to Category:Sculptors from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan singers‎ to Category:Singers from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan tennis players to Category:Tennis players from Castilla–La Mancha
 * Category:Castilian-Manchegan writers to Category:Writers from Castilla–La Mancha


 * Category:Catalan abbots to Category:Abbots from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan academics‎ to Category:Academics from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan activists‎‎ to Category:Activists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan actors‎ to Category:Actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan anarchists‎‎ to Category:Anarchists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan anarchists‎ to Category:Anarchists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan anthropologists‎ to Category:Anthropologists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan archaeologists‎ to Category:Archaeologists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan architects to Category:Architects from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan artists‎‎ to Category:Artists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan astronomers‎ to Category:Astronomers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan athletes‎ to Category:Athletes‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Baroque composers to Category:Baroque composers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan basketball players to Category:Basketball players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan beach volleyball players to Category:Beach volleyball players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan biologists‎ to Category:Biologists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan bishops to Category:Bishops from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan businesspeople‎ to Category:Businesspeople from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan chefs‎‎ to Category:Chefs from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan child actresses to Category:Child actresses from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Christian clergy‎ to Category:Christian clergy from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan classical composers to Category:Classical composers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan classical musicians to Category:Classical musicians from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan clergy‎ to Category:Clergy from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan clowns‎ to Category:Clowns from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan communists‎ to Category:Communists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan composers to Category:Composers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan conductors (music) to Category:Conductors (music) from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan critics‎ to Category:Critics‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan dancers‎‎ to Category:Dancers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan economists‎ to Category:Economists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan engineers‎‎ to Category:Engineers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan environmentalists‎ to Category:Environmentalists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan ethnologists‎ to Category:Ethnologists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan female field hockey players to Category:Female field hockey players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan female ski mountaineers to Category:Female ski mountaineers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan female skiers to Category:Female skiers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan female swimmers to Category:Female swimmers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan field hockey players to Category:Field hockey players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan film actresses to Category:Film actresses from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan food writers‎ to Category:Food writers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan golfers to Category:Golfers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan golfers‎ to Category:Golfers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan gymnasts‎ to Category:Gymnasts‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan handball players to Category:Handball players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan historians‎ to Category:Historians‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan inventors‎ to Category:Inventors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan jazz musicians‎ to Category:Dazz musicians‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan jazz pianists‎ to Category:Jazz pianists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Jesuits to Category:Jesuits from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan journalists‎ to Category:Journalists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan jurists‎ to Category:Jurists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan lawyers to Category:Lawyers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan literary critics‎ to Category:Literary critics‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male dancers to Category:Male dancers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male field hockey players to Category:Male field hockey players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male film actors to Category:Male film actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male ski mountaineers to Category:Male ski mountaineers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male skiers to Category:Male skiers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male stage actors to Category:Male stage actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male swimmers to Category:Male swimmers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan male television actors to Category:Male television actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan men by occupation to Category:Men from Catalonia by occupation
 * Category:Catalan military personnel‎ to Category:Military personnel from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan motorcycle racers to Category:Motorcycle racers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan motorsport people‎ to Category:Motorsport people‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan musical groups‎ to Category:Musical groups‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan musicians by genre to Category:Musicians from Catalonia by genre
 * Category:Catalan musicians by instrument‎ to Category:Musicians from Catalonia by instrument‎
 * Category:Catalan musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan novelists‎ to Category:Novelists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan opera composers to Category:Opera composers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan opera singers to Category:Opera singers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan painters to Category:Painters from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan paleontologists‎ to Category:Paleontologists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Catalonia by occupation
 * Category:Catalan people‎ to Category:People from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan philologists‎‎ to Category:Philologists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan philosophers‎ to Category:Philosophers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan photographers to Category:Photographers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan physicians‎ to Category:Physicians‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan physicists‎ to Category:Physicists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan poets‎ to Category:Poets‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan politicians by party‎ to Category:Politicians from Catalonia by party‎
 * Category:Catalan politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan poster artists to Category:Poster artists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan radio personalities‎ to Category:Radio personalities from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Roman Catholic clergy‎ to Category:Roman Catholic clergy from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Roman Catholic bishops to Category:Roman Catholic bishops from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan Roman Catholic priests to Category:Roman Catholic priests from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan rugby union players to Category:Rugby union players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sailors‎ to Category:Sailors‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan scientists‎ to Category:Scientists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sculptors to Category:Sculptors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan short story writers‎ to Category:Short story writers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan singer-songwriters to Category:Singer-songwriters from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan singers‎ to Category:Singers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan ski mountaineers‎ to Category:Ski mountaineers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan skiers‎ to Category:Skiers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan social scientists‎ to Category:Social scientists‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sociologists‎‎ to Category:Sociologists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan soldiers to Category:Soldiers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan songwriters‎ to Category:Songwriters‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan speculative fiction writers‎ to Category:Speculative fiction writers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sportsmen to Category:Sportsmen from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan sportswomen to Category:Sportswomen from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan stage actors to Category:Stage actors from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan stage actresses to Category:Stage actresses from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan swimmers‎ to Category:Swimmers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan teachers‎ to Category:Teachers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan television actresses to Category:Television actresses from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan tennis players‎ to Category:Tennis players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan theatre directors‎ to Category:Theatre directors‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan theatre people‎‎ to Category:Theatre people from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan trade unionists‎ to Category:Trade unionists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan translators‎ to Category:Translators‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan urban planners‎‎ to Category:Urban planners from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan water polo players‎ to Category:Water polo players‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan women artists to Category:Women artists from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan women by occupation to Category:Women from Catalonia by occupation
 * Category:Catalan women in politics to Category:Women politicians from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan women lawyers to Category:Women lawyers from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan women writers‎ to Category:Women writers‎ from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan women's basketball players to Category:Women's basketball players from Catalonia
 * Category:Catalan writers‎ to Category:Writers from Catalonia
 * Category:Exiled Catalan politicians‎ to Category:Exiled politicians from Catalonia


 * Category:Ceutan people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Ceuta by occupation
 * Category:Ceutan politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Ceuta


 * Category:Extremaduran artists to Category:Artists from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran explorers to Category:Explorers from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran painters to Category:Painters from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Extremadura by occupation
 * Category:Extremaduran people‎ to Category:People from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran singers‎ to Category:Singers from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Extremadura
 * Category:Extremaduran writers to Category:Writers from Extremadura


 * Category:Fictional Galician people to Category:Fictional people from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician actors‎ to Category:Actors from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician architects to Category:Architects from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician artists to Category:Artists from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician businesspeople to Category:Businesspeople from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician clergy to Category:Clergy from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician painters to Category:Painters from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician people (Spain) to Category:People from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Galicia (Spain) by occupation
 * Category:Galician politicians by party to Category:Politicians from Galicia (Spain) by party
 * Category:Galician politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician scientists to Category:Scientists from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician sculptors to Category:Sculptors from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician singers‎ to Category:Singers from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician teachers to Category:Teachers from Galicia (Spain)
 * Category:Galician writers to Category:Writers from Galicia (Spain)


 * Category:Madrilenian actors‎ to Category:Actors from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian artists to Category:Artists from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian film directors‎ to Category:Film directors from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian painters to Category:Painters from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from the Community of Madrid by occupation
 * Category:Madrilenian people‎ to Category:People from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian tennis players to Category:Tennis players from the Community of Madrid
 * Category:Madrilenian writers to Category:Writers from the Community of Madrid


 * Category:Melillan people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Melilla by occupation
 * Category:Melillan politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Melilla


 * Category:Murcian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from the Region of Murcia by occupation
 * Category:Murcian people‎ to Category:People from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Region of Murcia
 * Category:Murcian tennis players to Category:Tennis players from the Region of Murcia


 * Category:Navarrese actors‎ to Category:Actors from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese actresses‎ to Category:Actresses from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese male actors‎ to Category:Male actors from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese people by occupation‎ to Category:People from Navarre by occupation
 * Category:Navarrese people‎ to Category:People from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese politicians by party to Category:Politicians from Navarre by party
 * Category:Navarrese politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese singers‎ to Category:Singers from Navarre
 * Category:Navarrese sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from Navarre


 * Category:Riojan people by occupation‎ to Category:People from La Rioja by occupation
 * Category:Riojan people‎ to Category:People from La Rioja
 * Category:Riojan politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from La Rioja
 * Category:Riojan sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from La Rioja


 * Category:Valencian actors‎ to Category:Actors from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian architects to Category:Architects from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian artists to Category:Artists from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian businesspeople to Category:Businesspeople from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian composers to Category:Composers from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian cyclists‎ to Category:Cyclists from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian engineers to Category:Engineers from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian film directors to Category:Film directors from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian journalists to Category:Journalists from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian musicians‎ to Category:Musicians from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian painters to Category:Painters from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian people by occupation‎ to Category:People from the Valencian Community by occupation
 * Category:Valencian people‎ to Category:People from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian pilotaris to Category:Pilotaris from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian politicians‎ to Category:Politicians from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian Roman Catholic saints to Category:Roman Catholic saints from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian sculptors to Category:Sculptors from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian singers‎ to Category:Singers from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian sportspeople‎ to Category:Sportspeople from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian tennis players to Category:Tennis players from the Valencian Community
 * Category:Valencian writers to Category:Writers from the Valencian Community


 * Nominator's rationale: The Spanish people tree breaks from traditional naming convention of "fooian people" for countries and "people from foo" for other locations, by using forms such as "Andalusian people". The autonomous communities of Spain, while of significant historic relevance, are not countries therefore these should be renamed to "people from Andalusia" etc.


 * The principal basis of the renames are to rename to a category matching the article title of the relevant community. This is relatively straight forward for all except the Catalan and Basque categories (presumably the complications are the reason for this difference lasting so many years).


 * In the case of Catalan categories, I have proposed a rename to the styling "from Catalonia", though unlike other regions Category:Catalan people is listed under Category:Ethnic groups in Spain. However, the content of the category is largely location-based therefore I suggest we proceed in styling this as a non-ethnic category. Ethnic-specific categories can be created later if that is desirable.


 * In the case of the Basque categories, these are problematic because it is ambiguous whether "Basque fooers" refers to people from Basque Country (autonomous community) or Basque Country (greater region). Categories distinguishing those two are few. To prevent miscategorisation I suggest to rename the current Basque categories to "Basque Country (greater region)" then subcategories for "Basque Country (autonomous community)" can later be created to refine this categorisation, where appropriate. I appreciate this is a big nomination so any input is much appreciated, and if some aspects of the Catalan/Basque remain unclear I'd prefer if the less complex renames proceed separetely, rather than dropping the whole nomination as one. SFB 15:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support all. There is strong regionalism in Spain and many people consider themselves to be part of a regional ethnicity, so I can understand how these category names originally emerged. However this regionalism is a POV that should have less weight when put in international perspective like here on en.wp. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support most of them as they are at best regional identities within Spain. Oppose changes in the Basques-related categories. The Basques are an ethnic group, and a long-standing ethnic and linguistic minority within both Spain and France. Not everyone within the Basque Country is a Basque. Dimadick (talk) 17:38, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes there are definitely complications there! The problem is that there is often no distinction of Basque ethnic/Basque region/Basque Spanish autonomous community within the current structure so we have things like Category:Basque tennis players serving as a mix of all three. I'm open to a clean-up approach on that problem. Yet the issue is that leaving all Basque categories as an ethnic grouping puts many at risk of deletion. Things like "Basque ethnicity" and "tennis player" are probably not relevant intersections for categories (while renaming per location would be). Note that the key ethnic categories, like Category:Basque people and Category:French-Basque people, have been excluded and the nomination is focusing only on occupational Basque categories. SFB 18:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support all except the Basque categories as proposed due to the aforementioned problems of how these have been applied. It's clear that this proposal goes along the lines of Autonomous Community. Therefore the Basque ones would correctly be assigned to FOOERS from the Basque Country (autonomous community). However it is clear that in certain cases this is not applied as such. This would require each person's article to be checked and confirmed whether it should be placed in the Autonomous Community cat or not. This task would become more contentious the further back in history one goes due to the history of the region. And as has been mentioned above, this issue possibly also applies to the Catalan ones, where an idea of ethnicity has been used which may not correspond to an origin from somewhere in the current Autonomous Community (rugby players is one I'm already aware of, with players from Perpignan currently included in the Catalan cat and Biarritz etc in the Basque cat). Not sure whether this mass check should happen before the name change or after. But in terms of consistency here, the name change that should be applied is to fit under the existing umbrella Category:People from the Basque Country (autonomous community). Crowsus (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I have now removed the French players from the Catalan and Basque rugby union cats which as far as I'm aware was the main area of overlap among the modern era categories - stuff like 'Basque explorers' dating back to the 1400s would obviously need to be looked at differently. Unfortunately, for those rugby players there is no direct equivalent on that side of the border for anyone looking for a quick list. Although the French-Basque contingent is significant in rugby, and the Perpignan area too to a lesser degree, there are no other regional groupings of French players at present so I think it would be pushing the boundaries of categorization to create one for these specific, geographically small areas (the Catalan side at least has a department, one could attempt to get away with Category:Rugby union players from Pyrénées-Orientales, but the French Basque Country is only half a department, obviously it exists to an extent but it would almost be SYNTH to categorise the rugby players alone to that degree IMO - there is Category:French-Basque people which several of them already had, but that's getting back to the main Basque issue of it being a cultural identity – often self-defined – rather than a geopolitical location of origin which is more straightforward to demonstrate and apply). Crowsus (talk) 13:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Further update, I have now gone through all the Basque and Catalan sportspeople cats, ensuring they refer to the autonomous communities (tbf apart from the rubgy it wasn't too bad). So although the wider issue remains, the sports ones can be renamed without a problem. BTW, apologies if these updates are delaying the moves actually happening, that's not my intention. Crowsus (talk) 10:10, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, except Basque -- These are locations, not ethnicities. This moves them to a well-established WP format, where the "from" is purposely allowed to be interpreted in multiple ways.  I understand that there are some regional languages in Spain, but assume that these are in the nature of dialects.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Right, but 'Basque' is also one of the locations under this same official definition, you can't just ignore it entirely (I think that's what you're suggesting? Sorry if I misread it) because some people innocently added it to a wider, older ethnolinguistic sphere, and some other people carelessly misapplied it in modern contexts. Crowsus (talk) 19:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, except Basque and Catalan per the voices above.--Darwinek (talk) 00:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support all Moving all of these (not just some) to their corresponding autonomous communities is the way to go. It would be useful to keep as historical region/ethnic categories those which apply only to people from before the establishment of the autonomous communities, especially the conquistadors categories. For example, the CyL and CLM conquistadors categories should be merged into Category:Castilian conquistadors (or Category:Leonese conquistadors if any were ethnically Leonese). I would also keep all the other conquistador categories as they are (Andalusian, Asturian, Catalan, etc.). It doesn't make any sense to organize people from the 1500s by autonomous community. This is especially important since historians always treat conquistadors from a regional/ethnic perspective (as with any diaspora):
 * "La primera conquista la hicieron principalmente castellanos, extremeños, andaluces guerreros del centro y sur de España." Rufino Blanco Fombona, Ensayos históricos, 1981.
 * "Procedencia: en gran proporción procedían de Extremadura, región pobre, ganadera. Cortés, Pizarro, Valdivia, Orellana, fueron extremeños. Los castellanos propiamente dichos procedían, en parte, de tierras contiguas a Extremadura." Antonio Domínguez Ortiz, Hisoria de España, 1974.
 * It seems most commenters think that only Catalonia and the Basque Country somehow have their own language, culture and ethnic history? Galicians, Asturians, Cantabrians, Castilians, Leonese, Aragonese, Valencians, Murcians, Andalusians, Extremadurans, Canarians, etc. are historical ethnicities going back many centuries. Spain is a multiethnic country and it has been for as long as we know. Surely we can have geographical and ethnical categories, but it makes no sense to mix them both here. Neodop (talk) 22:41, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I avoided the more historical categories (e.g. Category:11th-century Catalan people) for that reason. I thought about excluding the conquistador categories, but the proposed names all share names with the historic regions too (except Castile and Leon which need separating).
 * I definitely agree that Spain has been multi-ethnic for many centuries, but that fact makes the conquisator ethnic/nation overlap more problematic. For example, in Andalusian conquistadors we have people like Beltrán de Cetina and Hernán Pérez de Quesada who are not of ethnic Andalusian descent, and are also partially of converso/Sephardim descent. In this way, the proposed Category:Conquistadors from Andalusia is much more accurate in describing the multi-ethnic nature of conquistadors. Any thoughts? Would Category:Conquistadors from Kingdom of Granada (Crown of Castile) be better?
 * This distinction highlights the deeper issue of the Spanish ethnicity categories also serving as the historic nationality categories. The latter is better served by things like Category:People from the Kingdom of Navarre rather than Category:Navarrese people. The current mix up causes people like Louis X of France to be placed in ethnic Navarrese categories, which is simply incorrect. SFB 15:31, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see any problem with categorizing conquistadors by ethnicity. Pérez de Quesada was undeniably andaluz. He is described as such by Diego Barros Arana and is featured in the encyclopedic volume Los Andaluces y América (RAH, 1991). Again, ethnicity is the defining characteristic of conquistadors, not their Kingdoms or Provinces, which is why passages like this are commonplace:
 * "Los primeros conquistadores europeos que pasaron por los mencionados valles fueron Iñigo de Bascona, vasco (1531); Juan de San Martín, castellano (1531); Hernán Pérez de Quesada, andaluz (1541)..."
 * The Cetina brothers were also andaluces; Gutierre's pen name and main character was named after Andalusia (Vandalio) and his poetry is set on the margins of the Betis river. Almost everyone in Andalusia has Arab, Jewish and even some gypsy blood; it's part (if not the essence) of the Andalusian identity and culture.
 * Having additional categories for historical kingdoms within the Crown of Castile is fine, although of limited use given their changing boundaries. There is little benefit to categorizing Pizarro and Cortés as conquistadors from the Reino de León when they are universally said to be extremeños. The problem with using e.g. Category:Conquistadors from Extremadura rather than Category:Extremaduran conquistadors, is that it would create inconsistencies, like in the case of Francisco de Bobadilla, who was Aragonese, but from modern-day La Rioja, not Aragón. As mentioned before, "Castilla y León", "Valencian Community", etc. are anachronistic. Similarly, Andalusia, Extremadura and Cantabria were not political entities back then, yet people were (and are) qualified as andaluces, extremeños and cántabros due to their ethnicity. PS: Navarrese people is not an "ethnic category". The predominant ethnicity of the people of Navarre & Basse-Navarre has been Basque for millennia, plus minorities of Aragonese, Occitan and to a lesser extent Castilians. The Basque Navarrese dialects differ as much from each other as they do from other Basque dialects, so it is hard to argue for the validity of "Navarrese people" being a single subgroup of the Basque. Neodop (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * All the points above have merit. I feel overall the issues with the many historic territories, all of which deserve to be treated respectfully) would be better resolved after the re-naming. It will look much clearer, in my view, to look at cats for each bio and judge whether the assigned cat is glaringly wrong for the relevant period when the cat reads FOOers from [modern day] BAH rather than the more ambiguous BAHian [of any period] FOOers. It may be that some new cats have to be created for the Age of Discovery kingdoms to properly reflect the identity of the conquistadors etc and that's fine IMO, there aren't a huge amount of bios and there weren't a huge amount of kingdoms. For my part, over the past week I've been looking through the Basque cats and have appropriately re-assigned the modern day Navarrese and French folk plus those actually born and raised elsewhere leaving the Basque autonomous community natives, as well as assigning the generic 'Basque people' to an occupation where possible, with the exception of medieval figures for whom the category clearly relates to their pre-Spanish Ethnicity/linguistic culture. There are always a few debatable ones in terms of the categories' definition and hopefully I've not put anyone's nose out of joint with the changes - no reversions or arguments so far that I'm aware of. I started doing the same with the 'Catalan people' one but there's actually so many occupational and geographic subcats there that it was taking me too long to check and define them, unlike the Basque ones that I either already was, or became, pretty familiar with to make the process a bit quicker. Crowsus (talk) 20:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * See my comment above. I disagree that moving the conquistadors has any benefit, it is entirely anachronistic. Currently, they are classified by their ethnicity which is in line with historical usage, the scholarly literature and their own self-described identity. This proposal would leave Category:Castilian conquistadors as is, while changing the perfectly valid Category:Andalusian conquistadors to Category:Conquistadors from Andalusia, which essentially erases the ethnic identity of these people while assigning them to a then non-existent geopolitical entity (as valid for them as it would be for Trajan and Arganthonios). These cats need to be left just like Category:Leonese infantes and hundreds of other historical/ethnic cats have been excluded from the move. Neodop (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, an easy solution for that is to remove the FOOian people by occupation category from the vocations which only refer to centuries ago, particularly Conquistadors and Explorers and also I think Sailors, although that will include some modern day mariners. Then they aren't included in the renaming proposal. To be honest, the insistence on this ethnic classification is a bit concerning to me. The conquistadors is actually a fairly straightforward one from the ones I've looked at, since they mainly seem to be raised in a military or naval tradition in a specific town or region and so its fairly safe to classify them. But the monarchs etc, while easier to trace, often had multiple ethnicities, were raised somewhere else and ruled over somewhere else again. Then we have cases like Englés, categorised under 'Navarrese people' but unlikely to be confirmed in sources as to his ethnicity, and in fact the article states that his nickname suggests he had some kind of English background or connection. Using a 'from' cat rather than an '-ese' cat ensures it is based on fact rather than assumption. But I suppose that's a different argument. But anyway, if what it takes for the modern age occupations to be renamed is for those which realistically only existed in a previous age to be removed in all cases (e.g there are 11 within Category: Spanish conquistadors), I'd support it. But I'm worried this is gonna rumble on further due to the vocations which are both ancient and modern (though the articles are usually on modern persons): Category:Andalusian painters, Category:Andalusian musicians, etc. Crowsus (talk) 11:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I only refer to the conquistadors/explorers categories because they all predate the autonomous communities by centuries. It would be very worrying to come across a category called Category:Conquistadors from the Basque Country (autonomous community). I agree that this shouldn't be applied to other occupations. Neodop (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That is exactly the situation my proposal seeks to avoid (note the renames refers to the Basque Country (greater region) which can refer to the region both historically and present day). I see this issue is present in a few nominations like Category:Madrilenian painters and Category:Valencian painters, both of which explicitly contain the modern day region name which is not the same as the historical one. Do you have any proposals to improve upon that? I am not aware of what the historic region of Madrid was referred to as. I see pre 1700 Valencia people could be placed under Kingdom of Valencia instead, which was a distinct entity until 1707.
 * On the point of ethnicity made above, I think it is easy to read modern senses of ethnicity and nationhood in older sources where the original writer did not have the same intent and meaning of those ideas. Wikipedia categories on ethnicity are typically in the modern sense, with a significant genetic component, whereas the historical senses of Spanish regions are much closer to political units rather than any specific ethnicity in a genetic sense. A similar discussion in 2011 resulted in the deletion of Category:Sicilian people in favour of Category:People from Sicily, and a historic category at Category:Kingdom of Sicily people. It feels that kind of outcome would be useful here. SFB 20:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You really need to drop the idea of using 'FOOers from the Basque Country (greater region)'. It is not the name for any of the autonomous communities and therefore completely out of sync with the rest of your proposal. As I've stated above, I have gone through all of the 'Basque FOOers' categories of the modern era and replaced the Navarrese and French-Basque ones as appropriate. So there is no concern over mislabelling. 'FOOers from the Basque Country (autonomous community)' is both consistent with the geopolitical basis for these categories, and accurate for the background of all modern-era persons concerned. Crowsus (talk) 21:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have struck the proposed Basque category renames from this nomination to allow the rest to proceed. I expect there is further discussion needed on how to balance ethnic Basque categories with categories for the Spanish autonomous community, but happy to leave that to a subsequent discussion. SFB 23:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Moksha-believing religions

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting moksha-believing religions
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, Moksha is a term in Hinduism and Jainism, but not a defining characteristic of other religions. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Moksha comes up in Buddhism and Jainism as well, but a lot of the articles like Platonism and Orphism don't mention the term and are in the category because of similar ideas. This category may be more of an issue of WP:OR with Wikipedia editors exploring common religious themes rather than using secondary sources. Such informal comparison are interesting to me but not encyclopedic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:History of the Palestinian refugees

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn in favour of this discussion running its course. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:History of the Palestinian refugees to Category:Nakba
 * Nominator's rationale: See this discussionSelfstudier (talk) 09:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, having an identical discussion at two different places is far from helpful. If you prefer a reverse merge, you can simply indicate that in yesterday's discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the linked discussion, this merger will delete an unnecessary category that overlaps with the category Nakba, a more accurate, clearer and simpler navigational aid. The other discussion is a second argument for deleting the Nakba category, this is an argument for not doing that while still resolving the alleged overlap. If the argument in the other discussion fails as it did in the initial deletion discussion, then this one needs to follow in any case.Selfstudier (talk) 10:14, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge -- Nakba is not an English word. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Neither is Renaissance and there are many others.Selfstudier (talk) 14:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Procedural oppose, disruption by Selfstudier creating a duplicate discussion to already open one from yesterday. Reverse merge is obvious because Nakba is not in English, and is a recently created category disrupting the existing tree.Free1Soul (talk) 14:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Aliyah + Category:Aliyah.Selfstudier (talk) 14:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose Nakba can not cover more than 70 years in the life of the Palestinian diaspora, and not everything about the history of this community can be depicted as an aspect of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Dimadick (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural Oppose/Speedy Close There is already an open merge nomination for these categories going the other way right here. A vote of "reverse merge" there would be constructive. This nomination may be in good faith but it is not constructive. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:57, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I voted reverse merge in the other, I didn't know that was a thing. How do I close this one? Selfstudier (talk) 10:14, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn/Combined per nominator; see above. Please place your input (pro/con/other) on the original nomination located right here - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:37, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Christianity in the Republic of Ireland by denomination

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Christianity in the Republic of Ireland by denomination to Category:Christian denominations in the Republic of Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: Per the Ireland and Northern Ireland recent decisions and all other states. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * No objection but are any denominations organisationally split between the the North and the Republic. If not, merge to Category:Christian denominations in Ireland.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of the "wee frees" are only organised in Northern Ireland. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support The current title is confusing. Dimadick (talk) 17:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Irish expatriate archbishops

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep/do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting irish expatriate archbishops
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Irish expatriate Roman Catholic archbishops Rathfelder (talk) 08:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Irish expatriate Roman Catholic archbishops to Category:Irish expatriate Roman Catholic clergy
 * Nominator's rationale: None were archbishops when they were in Ireland Rathfelder (talk) 08:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Irish expatriate Catholic bishops to Category:Irish expatriate Catholic clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Irish expatriate protestant bishops to Category:Irish expatriate protestant clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Irish expatriate bishops to Category:Irish expatriate clergy
 * Nominator's rationale: As far as I can see none were bishops when they left Ireland. Maybe these should also be renamed as emigrant clergy.  Very few ever returned to Ireland, and it seems very likely that most became citizens of their destination country.  I dont think any of the articles say anything about nationality or citizenship. Rathfelder (talk) 08:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm not seeing a consistent rationale in these proposals. For "Irish expatriate archbishops", the rationale offered is "Only content is Category:Irish expatriate Roman Catholic archbishops". So? Is this a crime? If I find any Irish men of the Church of Ireland who became archbishops in Darkest Africa, I will be sure to add them to this category. For the other 3 categories, the rationale offered is "As far as I can see none were bishops when they left Ireland." So? Is this a crime? It is implicit in the word "expatriate" and explicit of the scope defined, that the men in the category served their episcopate in the country that was not the country of their birth. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The proposal is to only have Irish expatriate clergy categories. Not Irish expatriate bishops or archbishops.  An Irish man who moves to Nigeria at the age of 25, stays there and becomes an archbishop is a Nigerian archbishop, not an Irish archbishop.  When he was in Ireland he was a priest or possibly a missionary.  See also Category:American Roman Catholic clergy of Irish descent.  Rathfelder (talk) 15:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * What about Category:French Roman Catholic bishops in Africa? Or is it just the Irish whose nationality is lost when they become bishops? Oculi (talk) 00:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Any Irish man in the "Irish expatriate archbishops" category is already tagged as a "Roman Catholic Bishop of Foo Irish Diocese", is addition to his expatriate tagging. He is also tagged as "Roman Catholic Archbishop of Darkest Africa". So there is no information loss. "Irish expatriate archbishops" just acknowledges the fact that his archepiscopacy was served abroad. It's not an alternative fact, it is an additional fact that is worthy of conservation. I have no objection to the creation of a new expatriate clergy category. Such a creation is not incompatible with the retention of the nominated categories. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Nigeria has plenty of expatriates, who are not Nigerian and would not be entitled to citizenship. Beckham doesn't become an American footballer by playing in the States. Oculi (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Beckham was a footballer before he went to the USA. These people were not bishops when they were in Ireland. Rathfelder (talk) 22:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You insist on missing the point, as is often the case. The person is (a) a bishop; (b) Irish; so he is an Irish bishop. Many such will return to Ireland on retirement, eg Patrick Kelly (bishop of Benin City) (retirement). It's completely irrelevant when or where he became a bishop. And why cannot you learn to indent like everyone else does? Oculi (talk) 00:52, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * We decided to categorise bishops by the location of the diocese. You may not like it, but that was the decision. It's not becoming a bishop that matters.  Its being a bishop, which happens, for the vast majority in a diocese.  If returning to Ireland is crucial to the definition we could purge the majority, who didnt. Rathfelder (talk) 07:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 'We' made no such decision. I agree that Bishops should be categorised by their diocese XXX ('Bishops of XXX') but this does not imply that they should not also be categorised by their nationality. It is not either/or as we can have both. (Thomas Carr (archbishop of Melbourne), mentioned below, was a bishop in Ireland before going to Australia.) Oculi (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to categorising them by nationality, but in general they were priests in Ireland. I dont think you will find any archbishops who migrated after they had become an archbishop, and Carr is very unusual in being a bishop in Ireland before he moved.  If being a bishop in Ireland is the criterion he may be the only member.Rathfelder (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural Note Despite this discussion being live, has removed Thomas Carr (archbishop of Melbourne) from the Irish expatriates category. I have discussed it with him and restored the category. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep That these people were Irish and that they were archbishops elsewhere are both notable things worth categorizing by. We might want to merge to Caegory:Irish expatriate Roman Catholic bishops but an outright delete is not justified. I make no comment on how accurate any particular categorization is. I suspect that some people are in here inapropriately here who were clearly Irish emigrants to the US, Canada, Australia or Britain, and not in any meaningful way still expatriates when made bishops, but some were clearly expatriates and belong in this category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This nomination is made based on a minsuderstanding of what the requirements for being an expatriate are. I would say generally if they were advanced to the priesthood while still in Ireland, or advanced to the priesthood somewhere else with plans to not stay in that locality, they would remain expatriates. It takes a lot of looking deeply into the particular biography in some cases, but there are clearly people who this category applies to.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Well Patrick Delany (archbishop) had never been to Australia at all when he was appointed a bishop there. He had lived all his life to that point in Ireland, except for periiods of time as a student in Italy. He was clearly and without question an expatriate.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "Delany moved to Australia in 1885. ... in 1907 he succeeded Bishop Murphy as the third Archbishop of Hobart." He seems to have stayed in Australia for the rest of his life. Is he not more accurately described as an emigrant than an expatriate?  Rathfelder (talk) 21:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Now James Duhig clearly does not belong, he emigrated to Australia while a child. However the fact that he does not fit the parameters of the category does not prove that it does not apply to anyone. In the same way I would argue that Vai Sikahema was not a Tongan expatriate player of American football. He emigrated to the US well before high school. He is a Tongan emigrant to the United States, and later became a notable player of American style football, he is not a Tongan expatriate player of American football, but his not fitting that term does not mean there are not Tongans recruited to play at BYU just after graduating from Liahona High School in Tonga who do fit the term.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not proposing to delete the basic categories, but to make them more accurate. Generally young men became priests in Ireland and then emigrated and became bishops.  It's very rare to find anyone who moved from one country to another after they had become a bishop after 1800.  The vast majority stayed in their adopted country for life, so are better described as emigrants (or possibly missionaries) than expatriates, though hardly any of the articles mention them changing nationality.  Rathfelder (talk) 21:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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Active ships

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Active ships
 * Prospose merging:
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of Brazil to Category:aircraft carriers of Brazil‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of France to Category:aircraft carriers of France‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of India to Category:aircraft carriers of India‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of Italy to Category:aircraft carriers of Italy‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of Russia to Category:aircraft carriers of Russia‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of Thailand to Category:aircraft carriers of Thailand‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of the United Kingdom to Category:aircraft carriers of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers of the United States to Category:aircraft carriers of the United States‎
 * Category:Active aircraft carriers to Category:aircraft carriers‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Brazil to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Brazil‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Chile to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Chile‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Denmark to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Denmark‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Ecuador to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Ecuador‎


 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of France to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of France‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of India to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of India‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Indonesia to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Indonesia‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Italy to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Italy‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Japan to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Japan‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Mexico to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Mexico‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Morocco to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Morocco‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Russia to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Russia‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Singapore to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Singapore‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of South Korea to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of South Korea‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Spain to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Spain‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of Sri Lanka to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of Sri Lanka‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of the People's Republic of China to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of the People's Republic of China‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of the Republic of China to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of the Republic of China‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of the United Kingdom to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels of the United States to Category:amphibious warfare vessels of the United States‎
 * Category:Active amphibious warfare vessels to Category:amphibious warfare vessels‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of Argentina to Category:auxiliary ships of Argentina‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of Chile to Category:auxiliary ships of Chile‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of France to Category:auxiliary ships of France‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of Germany to Category:auxiliary ships of Germany‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of Indonesia to Category:auxiliary ships of Indonesia‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of the United Kingdom to Category:auxiliary ships of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships of the United States to Category:auxiliary ships of the United States‎
 * Category:Active auxiliary ships to Category:auxiliary ships‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Argentina to Category:corvettes of Argentina‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Germany to Category:corvettes of Germany‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Indonesia to Category:corvettes of Indonesia‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Malaysia to Category:corvettes of Malaysia‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Myanmar to Category:corvettes of Myanmar‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Oman to Category:corvettes of Oman‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Peru to Category:corvettes of Peru‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of Sweden to Category:corvettes of Sweden‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of the Philippines to Category:corvettes of the Philippines‎
 * Category:Active corvettes of the United Arab Emirates to Category:corvettes of the United Arab Emirates‎
 * Category:Active corvettes to Category:corvettes‎
 * Category:Active cruisers of Russia to Category:cruisers of Russia‎
 * Category:Active cruisers of the United States to Category:cruisers of the United States‎
 * Category:Active cruisers to Category:cruisers‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of Argentina to Category:destroyers of Argentina‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of India to Category:destroyers of India‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of Japan to Category:destroyers of Japan‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of Mexico to Category:destroyers of Mexico‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of the Republic of China to Category:destroyers of the Republic of China‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of the United Kingdom to Category:destroyers of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active destroyers of the United States to Category:destroyers of the United States‎
 * Category:Active destroyers to Category:destroyers‎
 * Category:Active frigates of Argentina to Category:frigates of Argentina‎
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 * Category:Active frigates of Russia to Category:frigates of Russia‎
 * Category:Active frigates of the Netherlands to Category:frigates of the Netherlands‎
 * Category:Active frigates of the Republic of China to Category:frigates of the Republic of China‎
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 * Category:Active frigates of the United States to Category:Frigates and destroyer escorts of the United States
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 * Category:Active frigates to Category:frigates‎
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 * Category:Active merchant ships of Japan to Category:merchant ships of Japan‎
 * Category:Active merchant ships of Norway to Category:merchant ships of Norway‎
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 * Category:Active minelayers to Category:minelayers‎
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 * Category:Active minesweepers of Ukraine to Category:minesweepers of Ukraine‎
 * Category:Active minesweepers to Category:minesweepers‎
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 * Category:Active naval ships of Israel to Category:naval ships of Israel‎
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 * Category:Active naval ships of New Zealand to Category:naval ships of New Zealand‎
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 * Category:Active naval ships of Poland to Category:naval ships of Poland‎
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 * Category:Active naval ships of Singapore to Category:naval ships of Singapore‎
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 * Category:Active naval ships of South Korea to Category:naval ships of South Korea‎
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 * Category:Active ships of Sweden to Category:ships of Sweden‎
 * Category:Active ships of Thailand to Category:ships of Thailand‎
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 * Category:Active ships of the Dominican Republic to Category:ships of the Dominican Republic‎
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 * Category:Active ships of the United Kingdom to Category:ships of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active ships of the United States to Category:ships of the United States‎
 * Category:Active ships of Turkey to Category:ships of Turkey‎
 * Category:Active ships of Ukraine to Category:ships of Ukraine‎
 * Category:Active submarines of Australia to Category:submarines of Australia‎
 * Category:Active submarines of Brazil to Category:submarines of Brazil‎
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 * Category:Active submarines of South Africa to Category:submarines of South Africa‎
 * Category:Active submarines of Spain to Category:submarines of Spain‎
 * Category:Active submarines of Sweden to Category:submarines of Sweden‎
 * Category:Active submarines of the Netherlands to Category:submarines of the Netherlands‎
 * Category:Active submarines of the Republic of China to Category:submarines of the Republic of China‎
 * Category:Active submarines of the United Kingdom to Category:submarines of the United Kingdom‎
 * Category:Active submarines of the United States to Category:submarines of the United States‎
 * Category:Active submarines to Category:submarines‎


 * Nominator's rationale: merge, it is always a bad idea to have a category with "Active" and this is no exception. Maintenance would require huge efforts and it is highly unlikely that anyone would persist in that. Consensus at WikiProject Ships is to have the tree deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge etc. We have long resisted a current/past category split.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge With few exceptions, we don't typically distinguish between current and former entities within a category. Dimadick (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Not a useful breakdown. Thanks for taking on such a large nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support merge will help with maintenance, can't see any downside. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  09:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


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Philosophy of religion literature
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Category:Buddhism in culture

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Buddhism in culture to Category:Buddhism
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, container category with only three subcategories, it would be more obvious to find the three subcats directly under the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Pederastic heroes and deities

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting pederastic heroes and deities
 * Nominator's rationale: This is another pederasty category from editor Haiduc who was blocked by ArbCom. I think pederasty is pretty well-defined but I question what "heroes" means here and if this is a useful category for navigation and organization of articles. I think the parent category Category:LGBT themes in mythology serves an educational purpose but I question the subjective identification of "pederastic heroes" and I don't think Wikipedia will be the poorer for the deletion of this category. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose Hero has a distinctive meaning in mythology, as a type of semi-divine warrior. They were the subjects of worship in Greek hero cults. Dimadick (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * So, do we categorize heroes by who they prefer having sexual relations with, in this case, children? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. The meaning of "heroes" is really beside the point. Haiduc was basically a highly-active WP:SPA who wrote reams of propaganda exaggerating the prevalence and social standing of practices that in today's world, are called child sexual abuse by non-WP:Fringe sources. Part of this effort involved purposely conflating relationships between grown males that really are part of gay history together with abusive relationships between a grown man and a young boy, and calling it all "pederasty". A lot of his crap was deleted shortly after his ban in 2010; the rest (that I know of) has been cleaned up more recently, and this includes the network of pederasty categories created by him, and which were mostly CfD'ed recently (as can be seen by the notices on his talk page history). This one should go too. We don't need this to categorize myths that involve consensual relationships because we have LGBT categories for that. Crossroads -talk- 05:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Crossroads (t &#183; c)  buidhe  09:21, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, "pederastic" is not a defining characteristic of heroes and deities. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: See also Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 20. Crossroads -talk- 03:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Crossroads. gnu 57 19:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Pansexual actresses
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Pansexual actresses to Category:Pansexual actors
 * Nominator's rationale: Although all the current pages in the category are female, this category's name assumes that only women are pansexual. In addition, "actor" is a more acceptable gender-neutral term these days, so I believe this category should be renamed to include any male actors who may come out as pansexual in the future. Tom Danson (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose We categorise female actors in Category:Actresses and its category tree. I see no reason for a scope change in the category. Dimadick (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose We have seperate actor and actress categories. This categories name assumes nothing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:The Karate Kid characters
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:The Karate Kid characters to Category:The Karate Kid (franchise) characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Per parent category. ★Trekker (talk) 01:42, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support Based on the title, I thought this category was about Karate Kid (character), the superhero with 50 years of appearances. Dimadick (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:The Karate Kid films
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:The Karate Kid films to Category:The Karate Kid (franchise) films
 * Nominator's rationale: To follow parent categories. ★Trekker (talk) 01:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support Confusing title. Dimadick (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Video game characters in television
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 1%23Category:Video game characters in other media

Category:Video game characters in literature
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 1%23Category:Video game characters in other media

Category:Video game characters in anime and manga
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 1%23Category:Video game characters in other media

Category:Video game characters in comics
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 1%23Category:Video game characters in other media

Category:Video game characters in other media
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 1%23Category:Video game characters in other media

Category:Video game characters in film
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Category:Recipients of the Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defence of the Czech Republic
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defence of the Czech Republic
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT, WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defence of the Czech Republic with the stated purpose of recognizing heroism and other support to Czech defence. In practice the award is often given to visiting American military officials (General David Petraeus, General Wesley Clark, Lt. General Karl Eikenberry, Under Secretary Marshall Billingslea, & General Gregory S. Martin) and visiting Romanian royalty (Michael I of Romania & Margareta of Romania). The only 4 Czech people in the category consist of two diplomats (1 & 2) and two Czech generals (3 & 4) who are already well categorized under Category:Czech generals. This doesn't seem defining to any of these groups and the category contents are now all listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unlike some others, this is a state honour awarded to people who have rendered service to the state. That makes it defining. The fact it was given to some others is utterly irrelevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of articles are non-Czech. The standard in WP:OCAWARD is "a category of award recipients should exist only if receiving the award is a defining characteristic for the large majority of its notable recipients". State honours are subject to that editing guideline just like private awards. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Members of the Order of Diplomatic Service Merit
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:59, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Members of the Order of Diplomatic Service Merit
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT, and WP:OCAWARD)
 * When high ranking international people meet with the government of South Korea, the Order of Diplomatic Service Merit is given out as a souvenir. U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, King Gyanendra of Nepal, and Russian Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin are not remotely defined by this award. Ambassadors to Korea Lee Khoon Choy and Zoila Martínez are defined by their role which is why they are already under Category:Ambassadors to Korea. (None of the people in this category are Korean.) All the category contents are now listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors and those nominations are listed right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unlike some others, this is a state honour awarded to people who have rendered service to the state. That makes it defining. The fact it was given to some others is utterly irrelevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There's not a single Korean biography article in this category. It's not that it was given to "some others"; foreign people receiving it based on their roles is the whole category. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:48, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Federal buildings in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was: do not merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:58, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Federal buildings in the United States to Category:Buildings of the United States government
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category? Name of target category needs to be harmonized with wherever the two categories in Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_April_17 will be merged. Some items can be placed in a subcategory of the latter. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. A "Federal Building" is a distinct thing, having a separate Wikipedia article, it is not just any building of the U.S. Government.  A salient one was the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, destroyed in the Oklahoma City bombing.  There are a few historical precedents which were named "Federal Building" which tried to consolidate together a few separate offices/departments, but nowadays these are very large office buildings with some special features and architecture, which all include multiple U.S. government offices such as Internal Revenue Service office audit offices and other not-usually-front-facing-type departments, i.e. they usually are all back office-type places with limited public access. So usually not including U.S. Courthouses or U.S. Post Offices.  The List of Federal buildings within the Federal building article is a list of places specifically named "Federal Building".  The category for "Federal buildings in the U.S." is a type of, should be a subcategory of, "Buildings of the U.S. government".  All or most proper Federal Buildings are administered by the General Services Administration.  Maybe the term should be capitalized, so Federal building article should be moved to Federal Building, which would properly be considered at a wp:MV discussion first, and if that went through then the category should then be renamed similarly (without requiring a CFD).  But the thrust of this deletion nomination is to ignore/eliminate distinction between the very real thing that is a "Federal Building" versus all other buildings of the U.S. government, which would be a mistake. --Doncram (talk) 02:32, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Correct me when I am wrong, but it looks like this is a case of WP:SHAREDNAME. I do not (yet) see a "real" difference with other government buildings. Possibly rename to Category:Buildings administered by the General Services Administration. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment -- As an Englishman, I do not know the fine nuances in the classifications of what is federal in US. However if the two are not the same, Americans need to work out what kinds of buildings fall into the one but not the other.  Someone should then create a subcategory for the rest.  It may be that "Buildings administered by the General Services Administration" would be an appropriate criterion, but (if so) that should be stated in a headnote, not a category name.  Presumably US army bases are federal facilities, but without being part of the federal government administration in the way that federal courts, post offices, etc. are.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose/Comment In American usage, a "Federal Building" is one designed to be open to the public with a lot of different agencies in one place and located in the downtown of large and medium sized towns to be accessible. Other federally owned buildings (stand alone post offices, tax processing centers, office buildings for a single agency, military installations) are not ever called that. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:35, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * oppose for the correct reasons stated above. The 'Federal Building' in a city is a known entity throughout the United States.  Separate from other buildings that may locally house a federal agency, such as Social Security, for whatever reason.  Maybe the local Federal Building is too small.  Hmains (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)


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