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Squares by continent

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Africa to Category:Squares and plazas in Africa
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Asia to Category:Squares and plazas in Asia
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Europe to Category:Squares and plazas in Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in North America to Category:Squares and plazas in North America
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Oceania to Category:Squares and plazas in Oceania
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the parent Category:Squares and plazas by continent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * See also linked discussion Plazas in South America. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose the article is Town square, the parent is Category:Town squares and convention is to follow down from the article (rather than from bizarrely named subcat schemes). Oculi (talk) 17:17, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Query So are you proposing an alternative such as Category:Town squares in Africa etc ? Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Personally I would prefer it if all the categories were renamed "Squares" and the overall category was renamed Category:Squares by continent. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply "Why are we singling out plazas" - the whole point of the nomination is not to single out plazas. The whole point is to give it a more encyclopedic feel and for it to be less Anglo-centric. It acknowledges that each of the two terms is valid and common in their respective locations. Why use "squares in South America when they're called plazas? The category needs to embrace both. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Equally, why use squares in Germany when they're called Plätze? Why use the term in France when they're called Places? I could go on and on. So, I ask again, why are we singling out plazas? Why is Spanish being given special treatment? Better to just use the generic English term for all of them. Or do you want Category:Squares, plazas, piazzas, plätze, places [ad infinitem] in Europe? -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the English Wiki. No need for other languages. Plaza is a common term in English; the others are not. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * However, "square" is the standard term, so there is no need for any other. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. We don't need 'plazas'. Keep it simple and crisp - as a rule! --Just N. (talk) 21:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


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Squares in Foo Continent by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Africa by country to Category:Squares and plazas in Africa by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Asia by country to Category:Squares and plazas in Asia by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Europe by country to Category:Squares and plazas in Europe by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in North America by country to Category:Squares and plazas in North America by country
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the parent Category:Squares and plazas by continent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * See also linked discussion Plazas in South America. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above rationale. Each should be 'Town squares' per Town square, Category:Town squares; these are speedies (C2C, C2D). Oculi (talk) 17:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Square should indeed be changed to Town square per the article and category. That said, there are some categories, such as Category:Plazas in Madrid, Category:Plazas in Manila and Category:Plazas in Mexico City, that use "plaza". Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Personally I would prefer it if all the categories were renamed "Squares" and the overall category was renamed Category:Squares by continent. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No good reasons to follow nominator who obviously just wants to force his taste. --Just N. (talk) 21:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Squares in New Zealand

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:21, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in New Zealand to Category:Squares and plazas in New Zealand
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the parent Category:Squares and plazas by continent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above rationale. Each should be 'Town squares' per Town square, Category:Town squares; these are speedies (C2C, C2D). Oculi (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Oculi and per local usage - if anything, it's the non-uniform sub-subcategory which should be changed to Grutness...  wha?   02:38, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment having both "square" and "plaza" in the category title permits widespread local usage. Otherwise all "plazas" would have to be shoehorned into squares. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That's fine for the "by country" and "by continent" categories, but local usage in New Zealand is for "square". Grutness... wha?   03:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Personally I would prefer it if all the categories were renamed "Squares" and the overall category was renamed Category:Squares by country. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No good reasons to follow nominator who obviously just wants to force his taste. --Just N. (talk) 21:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Town squares

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:23, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Town squares to Category:Squares and plazas
 * Nominator's rationale: More inclusive. Each of its 3 sub-categories is entitled "Squares and plazas by ...". Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose The current name is consistent with its main article name, Town square. Thincat (talk) 17:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment While the current name may be consistent with its main article name, the contents of the category contains no such consistency as all varieties of square / plaza / piazza / civic space / urban space etc is on display. Perhaps the real problem lies with the article name. But that's a discussion for a different forum. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose - per Thincat and WP:C2D. Oculi (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per key article - the subcategories cater for local usages, but given their scope they could possibly also be changed to "Squares". Grutness... wha?   02:44, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment the proposal better caters for local usage seeing as the proposed name contains two of the most popular variants. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No good reasons to follow nominator who obviously just wants to force his taste. --Just N. (talk) 21:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply Please assume GoodFaith . I created none of the 3 sub-categories which are all entitled "Squares and plazas by ...". Yet they exist, so it's illogical for the parent to differ. Either the parent or the children must change. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:09, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Squares in Australia

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Squares in Australia to Category:Squares and plazas in Australia
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the parent Category:Squares and plazas by continent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above rationale. Each should be 'Town squares' per Town square, Category:Town squares; these are speedies (C2C, C2D). Oculi (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Query Are you proposing an alternative name above? If so, what exactly? Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Oculi and local usage. Grutness... wha?   02:44, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Personally I would prefer it if all the categories were renamed "Squares" and the overall category was renamed Category:Squares by country. Why are we singling out plazas when there are many words used in different languages? "Square" is a generic term in English for any formally laid-out urban open space, whatever it is actually called (and most of them are not square). Even in Spanish-speaking countries they are not all called plazas. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No good reasons to follow nominator who obviously just wants to force his taste. --Just N. (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Band-Maid

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting band-maid
 * Nominator's rationale: This fails WP:OCEPON and the two subcategories are already interlinked to aid in navigation between the two. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This category has been nominated for deletion for almost two weeks now. I feel like we should have reached a consensus by now. I did not know this was going to be an issue or I never would have made(maid) the category. I say delete it until Band-Maid has enough pages to justify having this category. yawaraey (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCEPON, and the fact the subcategories already are linked. Richard3120 (talk) 23:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


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Misnamed user categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Emergency Medical Services in Alaska to Category:Wikipedian emergency medical responders
 * Propose deleting Category:Law Enforcement
 * Propose deleting Category:Family In Law Enforcement
 * Propose deleting Category:Interest in Alaska State Troopers
 * Nominator's rationale Series of misnamed, single-user categories covering topics that are, in most cases, of questionable collaborative value. A merge of the first to Category:Wikipedians in Alaska as well is not necessary since the user is already in that category. A merge of the last category to the Category:Wikipedians by interest tree is not appropriate since it is populated by Template:Alaska State Troopers, which does not express a Wikipedia-relevant interest in the subject. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 21:21, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bobby Deol

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bobby deol
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. Only a filmography page. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * 'Delete per SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * 'Delete per nom. -- Ab207 (talk) 08:23, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


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