Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 3



Category:Sports teams in Grambling, Louisiana

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sports teams in Grambling, Louisiana to Category:Sports in Grambling, Louisiana
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article and one category tree. User:Namiba 22:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. This category is too small to justify. I am less than convinced we need the target either.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:57, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Shreveport Grays

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting shreveport grays
 * Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry and one subcategory. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:07, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Support this nomination and nominating most of the categories at Category:Baseball teams in Shreveport, Louisiana.--User:Namiba 14:11, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all per Namiba. --Just N. (talk) 14:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Boven-Digoel internees

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Boven-Digoel internees to Category:Boven-Digoel concentration camp detainees
 * Nominator's rationale: Boven-Digoel has been moved by WP:RM. However, rather than a speedy move to that name, I suggest also changing "internees" to "detainees" as that is the word used in the main article. "Detainees" is also used for at least 3 categories within Category:Prisoners and detainees by prison (Guantanamo, Kandahar, Bagram). – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Support as the person who asked Boven-Digoel to be moved to Boven-Digoel concentration camp not long ago, I think this follow-up move makes some sense, although for myself I wouldn't get too caught up in detainee vs internee, I don't see a huge difference. But for clarity having it match the new article title in some way would be helpful. --Dan Carkner (talk) 03:42, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Support The title explains at a glance what Boven-Digoel was. Clarity is needed with categories. Dimadick (talk) 00:35, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Economy of Citrus Heights, California

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete (in this case, merge and delete coincide) (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Economy of Citrus Heights, California to Category:Citrus Heights, California
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT with only 1 article. User:Namiba 20:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete the one content is adequately categorized under Category:Companies based in Sacramento County, California.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as proposed in acordance with WP:SMALLCAT. Taxman1913 (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. --Just N. (talk) 15:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Alt-right musicians

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting alt-right musicians
 * Nominator's rationale: This appears to be a trivial intersection and non-defining characteristic of musicians, as well as subjective, not a trait that is commonly and consistently bestowed upon the ostensible members by reliable sources. As far as I know we generally don't categorize by political ideology. We have the reasonably broad category, but don't have categories for conservative musicians, liberal musicians, Neo-nazi musicians, Marxist musicians, etc. ( is about progressive music, not progressivism). "Alt-right" itself is an ill-defined, loose term thrown around with uneven frequency. So even though there are pop-culture fluff articles like "There’s an alt-right version of everything", the subjectivity of the term "alt-right" is another issue hindering categorization (Taylor Swift?).  While there are verifiably musicians who have a variety of political views, the intersection of ideology and this occupation is rarely a defining characteristic of people, especially when categorizing living people. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:58, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:BLPCAT violation, highly contentious label. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 05:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:41, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Alt-right is too subjective a term to easily define. It is also way too pejorative a term to be well applied.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete While not a trivial aspect, the category could be used to attack musicians for their perceived political affiliations. Alt-right has become a pejorative term, due to its identification with white nationalism. We could rename the category to Category:Bigot musicians, and we would have the same results. Dimadick (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Well not quite, since there are clearly bigots who are not alt right (at least if you exclude Black Hebrew Israelites from the alt right, which virtually everyone would, and arguably members of the Nation of Islam, and I could make convincing arguments for some leftist anti-semites as well). However this category is going to run into lots of problems of self-described, and it will be the question why we do not have Category:Conservative musicians, Category:Moderate musicians and Category:Liberal musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:05, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:British motorcycles listed by marque

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 * The result of the discussion was: split (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:British motorcycles listed by marque to Category:Lists of motorcycles of the United Kingdom and Category:Motorcycles of the United Kingdom
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename as a category to contain the list articles. The sub-cats should be moved up into the parent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * 'Split 'per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Howard Ashman

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting howard ashman
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous parent when there's already a "works by" category and no other significant content to add. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 15:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * КиноФан2021's Answer: Alan Menken's also only has "works by", but his category is not nominated for removal. КиноФан2021Talk to me 12:50, 4 August 2021
 * "Other stuff exists" is not a valid reason (in this context) for keeping the category. By all means, nominate that category if you feel it should also be deleted. Sean Stephens (talk) 23:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nomination. Sean Stephens (talk) 23:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Born in San Bartolomé de la Torre

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Born in San Bartolomé de la Torre to Category:People from San Bartolomé de la Torre
 * Nominator's rationale: follow form of other categories of people by location DemonStalker (talk) 12:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:People from Huelva. Huelva is the appropriate province in Spain. This is a small community and the category has just 1 entry....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete we do not cateogrize people by where they are born, only where they are from, which is often the same, but If someone leaves where they are born when an infant and never returns they are not from there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The article on San Bartolomé de la Torre is a stub, and the municipality has less than 4,000 residents. I doubt that we have enough content for an eponymous category. Dimadick (talk) 00:46, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This category has been emptied. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:40, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as category has been emptied. --Just N. (talk) 15:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Born in Lepe
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Born in Lepe to Category:People from Lepe
 * Nominator's rationale: follow form of other categories of people from location DemonStalker (talk) 12:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:People from Huelva. Huelva is the appropriate province in Spain. This is a small community and the category has just 1 entry....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As said above we do not categorize by place of birth, only place of being raised.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This category has been emptied. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:38, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. --Just N. (talk) 15:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bicycle sharing operators
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (both articles are in Category:Bicycle sharing companies as well) (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bicycle sharing operators
 * Nominator's rationale: Category is for "Companies that create systems for bicycle sharing." while there is a "Bicycle sharing companies" category already DemonStalker (talk) 11:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment If it is truly a double it must be deleted. --Just N. (talk) 15:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Cinema by region
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Cinema by location.  bibliomaniac  1  5  21:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cinema by region to Category:Cinema by location
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, location is the broader term we need here, while region may specifically apply to (sub)continents or parts of countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename as per nomination. Categorising cinema by region would not assist in navigation, whilst doing so by location would. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Non-habitable Mega-Earths
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  21:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting non-habitable mega-earths
 * Nominator's rationale: Very few Mega-Earths are known, and the category is also defined in the negative for habitability. Both members are already in the sole parent, Category:Mega-Earths. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete since all are currently in category mega earths. We only have 4 articles, so splitting in any way is not justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Keep since splitting may become justifiable in the future due to the creation of articles on non-habitable mega-Earths. Jtadesse (talk) 22:46, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: While we have Category:Exoplanets in the habitable zone (i.e. habitable planets), do we have any categorization schemes besides this one regarding non-habitability? It would seem to reason that if the vast majority of known planets in the universe are non-habitable, then there is little use in categorizing them as such. --Animalparty! (talk) 00:05, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NONDEF without objection to create Category:Habitable Mega-Earths when enough articles exist to populate such a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You mean Category:Mega-Earths in the habitable zone? That would be okay. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 23:55, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:31, 6 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Seriously? There's hardly any habitable Mega-Earths. 🪐Kepler-1229b &#124; talk &#124; contribs🪐 01:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


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