Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 15



Category:Sharon Van Etten singles

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: Artist songs categories aren't split up by which ones were released as singles. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sharon Van Etten singles to Category:Sharon Van Etten songs
 * Support Agree with nominator's rationale. Tame (talk) 07:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Lebanese cabinet

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to  Category:Cabinets of Lebanon. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: Should be renamed to be in line with the proposed renaming of Category:German Cabinet, and to be consistent with the rest of the category tree. Renerpho (talk) 18:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lebanese cabinet to Category:Cabinet of Lebanon
 * Speedy rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it should be Category:Cabinets of Lebanon as it looks very much like a set category. Oculi (talk) 21:50, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The entire tree should be pluralized indeed, but that is not a matter of speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * This isn't a speedy. Oculi (talk) 11:07, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be "cabinets" (plural). Renerpho (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename but to Category:Lebanese cabinets: this is a container for articles on successive cabinets.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:49, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see why. Category:German cabinet has just been renamed Category:Cabinets of Germany, for the same rationale, see here. Renerpho (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:People from Amwell, Hertfordshire

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Great Amwell (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: "Amwell" isn't currently an individual place, there is the village and parish of Great Amwell and there was also Little Amwell. Either this should be deleted or split to Category:People from Great Amwell (which it looks like most are for) and Category:People from Little Amwell. I have fixed the links to Amwell, Hertfordshire (that now points to the DAB) that I can by pointing them to one of the specific places but there are still 4 that I can't determine. In addition this title is also ambiguous as there is a hamlet in the St Albans district called Amwell so if kept it should probably be moved to Category:People from Amwell, East Hertfordshire.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people from amwell, hertfordshire
 * Support as per nominator's rationale. Would not support alternative suggestion of moving to Category:People from Amwell, East Hertfordshire - if a category is needed for the people currently in this category it should be to the disambiguated place(s). Stortford (talk) 21:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All 6 people left in the category are for Great Amwell so we could move to Category:People from Great Amwell or just create that from scratch. The suggestion Category:People from Amwell, East Hertfordshire is only if we keep using just "Amwell" due to the one in St Albans.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename/rescope to and upmerge any strays. Grutness...  wha?   02:32, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment -- The nom is right in principle. The question is what we should do.  Does a place with a population of under 3000 need a category? If not merge to East Herts.  Alternatively, we could retain the present scope as people from the amwells, east hertfordshire OR split into Category:People from Great Amwell and Category:People from Hertford Heath, the parish into which Little Amwell has been merged.  If anything, I prefer the last option, but I am not local and do not know.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:04, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Focus Home Interactive games

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Focus Entertainment games. (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  06:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: The company was rebranded in 2021. OceanHok (talk) 09:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Focus Home Interactive games to Category:Focus Entertainment games
 * Support company has rebranded and category needs updating accordingly Lankyant (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Provinces of the Republic of China

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Republic of China (1912–1949) and Category:Subdivisions of former countries.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. (Note that Provinces of the Republic of China is a redirect to Administrative divisions of Taiwan but that is not what this category is about, and we already have Category:Subdivisions of Taiwan.) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Provinces of the Republic of China to Category:Republic of China (1912–1949)
 * Propose deleting Category:Subdivisions of the Republic of China (added 17 Dec)
 *  Triple merge also to Category:Provinces of China and Category:Subdivisions of former countries. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * the subcategory is already in Category:Former provinces of China and I wonder if merging to Category:Subdivisions of former countries would be very appropriate, because this is about a past period of a still existing country. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I withdraw one of those targets. But Category:Subdivisions of former countries currently contains Category:Subdivisions of the Republic of China, and I would be inclined to construe the meaning widely. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Upmerge both. Both have a single subcat leading down to Category:Republic of China (1912–1949), so that the two above it are unnecessary layers.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:08, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Documentary films about the Republic of China

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:21, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2C: Category:Republic of China (1912–1949) and per actual content, all articles are about the era before 1949. I did not list it at WP:CFDS because it is possibly controversial. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Documentary films about the Republic of China to Category:Documentary films about the Republic of China (1912–1949)
 * Propose renaming Category:Protests in the Republic of China to Category:Protests in the Republic of China (1912–1949)
 * Support -- I thought we had long since split content on China 1912-49 from that for Taiwan 1945-present, but these ones clearly got missed. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Sport in Canada
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 5%23Category:Sport in Canada

Category:The Late Late Show (American talk show) hosts

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  Doczilla  @SUPERHEROLOGIST 07:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: This appears to be a clear case of inappropriate overcategorization due to WP:PERFCAT: Performers by role or composition. Similarly, we don't characterize actors by performance on television series nor TV shows they've appeared on. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the late late show (american talk show) hosts
 * Propose deleting hosts of the late late show (irish talk show) (added later)
 * OK, delete. No merge is necessary. I have added the like-named Irish category which prompted me to create the American show category in the first place. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:37, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment -- This is not about single performances, but about a long running role. I assume that the hosts are more TV presenters than actors.  Guests on Late Late Show (either venue) would certainly fail PERFCAT.  I had expected to find Category:BBC Newsnight presenters, but it does not exist: there are only long lists of personnel in Newsnight, ample to make a worthwhile category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:El Sobrante, California

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:El Sobrante, Contra Costa County, California. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:18, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion between this place and El Sobrante, Riverside County, California. There was a RM for moving El Sobrante, California to El Sobrante, Contra Costa County, California, which I carried out. I also made a dab page. Natg 19 (talk) 01:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:El Sobrante, California to Category:El Sobrante, Contra Costa County, California
 * Support, as consistent with articles. The two El Sobrantes have almost identical populations at twelve and something thousand each.-- Mvqr (talk) 17:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Video games with customizable avatars
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 23%23Category:Video games with customizable avatars