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Category:Nobel laureates by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete the subcategories and rename the main category to Category:Lists of Nobel laureates by ethnicity. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting nobel laureates by ethnicity
 * Propose deleting tibetan nobel laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting tamil nobel laureates
 * Propose deleting punjabi nobel laureates
 * Propose deleting pashtun nobel laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting jewish nobel laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting hokkien nobel prize laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting han chinese nobel laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting bengali nobel laureates ‎
 * Propose deleting ethnic armenian nobel laureates

Nominator's rationale: per WP:OCEGRS. Not only is it obvious in nearly all cases that there is no relation between "ethnicity" and "winning nobel prizes" (the very few instances might be the occasional peace prize), but there are no reliable sources which cover this as a notable topic either (the only thing I can find is single-event coverage of the head of the Nobel Committee saying that there will, indeed, be no gender or ethnicity quotas...). That would leave the lists, but 1) some of these might fail LISTN and 2) these are already categorised in Category:Lists of Nobel laureates anyway.

Also delete the subcategories, for the same concerns, and on top for all safe one due to obvious SMALLCAT issues. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:58, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for the cited reasons, and also for all of the arguments raised at this 2016 RFC. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:21, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hold because (i) the sub-cats have not been tagged & listed, (ii) the category is valid unless the member lists are deleted first at WP:AfD (namely List of Arab Nobel laureates, List of black Nobel laureates, List of Latin American Nobel laureates, List of Asian Nobel laureates). – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the subcategories per nom - but they must be tagged and listed - and rename the main category to Category:Lists of Nobel laureates by ethnicity per Fayenatic london. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hold until the subcategories are tagged and listed. Oculi (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * please respond to the above. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Next time, do look up the page history... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the subcategories per nom and rename the main category to Category:Lists of Nobel laureates by ethnicity per above. It seems likely that the individuals are all in some other subcat (eg nationality or topic) of Category:Nobel laureates obviating the need for an upmerge. Oculi (talk) 01:21, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Nobel laureates is an exception to WP:OC and should be an exception here as well. There has (I think) only been one Bangladeshi laureate but (exceptionally) e allow a one-member category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:06, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per well reasoned argument that this intersection of ethnicity and winning an award is not covered consistently the way the intersection of nationality and winning this award is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bangladesh Liberation War poems
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Category:Bangladesh Liberation War games

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Works about the Bangladesh Liberation War. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. A double merge is not needed, the article is already in Category:War video games. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bangladesh Liberation War games to Category:Works about the Bangladesh Liberation War


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Category:Burial sites of Dynasties of Ireland

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: split to existing categories. I have added "see also" links between the current sub-cats.– Fayenatic  L ondon 08:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: split, having three categories seems a bit too abundant. The split between royalty and nobility is clear, but "dynasty" does not add much. If kept, then rename (Dynasties -> dynasties). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Burial sites of Dynasties of Ireland to Category:Burial sites of Irish royal families and Category:Burial sites of Irish noble families
 * Keep but merge in the two subcategories. In Ireland there were numerous kings ruling the equivalent of a county (or a few of them), all (in theory) under a High King.  The Anglo-Norman dynasties took over some of these petty kingdoms, but may not have called themselves kings, because their sovereign was the king of England (at least in theory).  In Ireland and Germany (HRE) the distinction between royal and noble is far from clear.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:24, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Support the distinction is too slender. Not an aid to navigation. The Butler dynasty was noble but not royal. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge all to Category:Burial sites of Irish noble families, or sub-cats. The actual articles cover burials much too late to claim to be "royal", with the exception of Brian Boru, whose burial site is uncertain. Johnbod (talk) 11:49, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Burial sites of Royal families of the Americas

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. If not merged, then rename (Royal -> royal). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Burial sites of Royal families of the Americas to Category:Burial sites of royal families
 * Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. If not merged, then rename to Category:Burial sites of royal families in North America. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, North America is better than the Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:32, 24 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Politics of South Carolina by county

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 00:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: This and the categories also nominated form a tree of overly specific and unique-type subcats funneling into just one page, Ron Wilson (American politician). Little to no opportunity for expansion.
 * Propose deleting politics of south carolina by county



Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:15, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - the one article is a person, Ron Wilson (American politician), who doesn't belong at the top level of any of these and is categorised adequately. Oculi (talk) 15:38, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a sinlge article is not enough to support a whole tree. SMALLCAT.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Overkill. Grutness... wha?   00:25, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the above. There's not much more to be said, this is a blatant fail of SMALLCAT. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 04:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)


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