Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 February 15



Category:Brian Greene

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) --Trialpears (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting brian greene


 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only Brian Greene and . This provides no substantial benefit to category navigation. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete plenty of "X works by Y author" lack a "Y author" parent cat. E.g. there is Category:Books by Stephen Ambrose but not Category:Stephen Ambrose--Prisencolin (talk) 00:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Greene is notable as a writer, but we do not have enough spin-off articles for an eponymous category about him. 20:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Dimadick (talk)
 * Delete per nom and the discussion points laid out here. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Washington Huskies football broadcasters

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 * The result of the discussion was: Dual merge to parent categories. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 18:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting washington huskies football broadcasters washington huskies football announcers


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, one person listed here who can be merged to the two parent categories. No objection to recreation or withdrawal of this nomination if more people can be included.Prisencolin (talk) 22:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dual merge per nom; also WP:PERFCAT. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note. The category was renamed to Category:Washington Huskies football announcers as a result of this CFD. I have amended this nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:48, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Roman Catholic archbishops of Bologna

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 * The result of the discussion was: rough consensus is to keep Category:Roman Catholic archbishops of Bologna and not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic archbishops of Bologna to Category:Archbishops of Bologna
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a test. About half of the subcategories of Category:Roman Catholic archbishops by diocese in Italy are like "Roman Catholic archbishops of   somewhere" and the other half are just "Archbishops of  somewhere".  I dont see any obvious reason for the difference.  I cant see any archbishops in Italy who are not Catholic so I'd like to see consistency, and in Italy I dont think we need to specify that they are Roman Catholic.  But if we do, lets specify that for all of them. Rathfelder (talk) 21:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * More consistency is definitely helpful but I would have a weak preference for the other way around, in order to keep the Roman Catholic category naming consistent across countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Quite a large majority of the categories in Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in Europe by diocese are just "Archbishops of somewhere". Not many churches have archbishops, so in most countries all the archbishops are Roman Catholic.  I'm inclined to suggest that we only call them Roman Catholic in places where there is another kind.  Rathfelder (talk) 00:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You are right in terms of the numbers. However they are likely to be called Roman Catholic in places where there is another kind, so then there is no consistency after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse — better consistency the other way around, renaming those with missing Roman Catholic. Anglicans have archbishops. All the Orthodox Catholic churches also have archbishops. Perhaps a country like Italy or France looks homogenous, but many other countries are far from it. In US major metropolitan areas like Detroit, there are many archbishops (other than 1 Roman Catholic), sometimes they show up for various holiday parades.
 * Reverse rename for consistency sake. I think that Eastern Catholics are more likely to use "Eparch" than "Bishop" though. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of these categories are linked to articles. See Category:Roman Catholic bishops by diocese They vary in whether they are titled Roman Catholic ... or not, or even Bishops of Somewhere (Roman Catholic)  and not for any obvious reason.  Some of the articles are called Bishop of Somewhere, and others Roman Catholic Diocese of Somewhere, but most of them are essentially a list of officeholders.  Rathfelder (talk) 15:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse rename - this is WP:C2C - follow Category:Roman Catholic archbishops. Oculi (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I dont think you can say that we have established category tree names. It varies enormously from country to country. Rathfelder (talk) 00:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Let us please stay focused. The nomination was for the sake of consistency. It can only be made fully consistent by means of reverse renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The inconsistency is because category creators do not follow WP:C2C, a simple rule: match the top category. Oculi (talk) 09:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename to Cateogry:Catholic archbishops of Bologna. I see no reason to have the Roman in the title.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename preferably per nom, because the Anglican Church has only one diocesan bishop (with a suffragan) for the whole of continental Europe (see Diocese in Europe. If we must have a denominational descriptor, it should be "Catholic", but much better not, as there is no ambiguity.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * In Italy it seems superfluous to label bishops as Roman Catholic, as I dont think there is any other kind. I think we should aim for consistency by country, and perhaps by chronology.  Global consistency seems unobtainable.  In some places it would be sensible to designate Roman Catholic clergy of Foo (or some other denomination) after the schism, and just clergy of Foo before. Rathfelder (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse per the reasoning of, who has this exactly right. We already had a similar discussion back in 2008.  I created this cat.  The "Roman Catholic" specificity is the only elegant way to structure the entire "archbishop" category tree.  The "Roman" part differentiates these archbishops from those of the Eastern Catholic Churches.  For consistency and accuracy, and to properly acknowledge non-RCC faiths, the names should take the more specific form.  --Lockley (talk) 17:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


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People from Evros (regional unit)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Alexandroupoli (municipality) to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Feres, Evros to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Orestiada (municipality) to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Samothrace to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Soufli (municipality) to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Orfeas to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Soufli to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Tychero to Category:People from Evros (regional unit)
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns, in this case except Alexandroupoli‎ (58,000 people), Orestiada‎ (20,000 people) and Didymoteicho (9,000 people). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:21, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge All For Now These small cats are not aiding navigation. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge as a good start — This is another that could benefit from going one level higher, Category:People from Eastern Macedonia and Thrace, because there are so few candidates. Should be categorizing from the top down, not the bottom up. Most of these aren't notable for having been anywhere other than Category:Greek people by occupation, but we can prune.


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People from Evrytania

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Agrafa (municipality) to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Agrafa to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Aperantia to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Fragkista to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Karpenisi (municipality) to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Fourna to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Karpenisi to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Propose merging Category:People from Prousos to Category:People from Evrytania
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns. In this case there aren't any such exceptions. This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge All For Now These small cats are not aiding navigation. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge as a good start — Should be categorizing from the top down, not the bottom up. Most of these aren't notable for having been anywhere other than Category:Greek people by occupation, but we can prune.


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Category:Women in the The Troubles (Northern Ireland)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting women in the the troubles (northern ireland)
 * Propose deleting decades in the the transcaucasian socialist federative soviet republic
 * Nominator's rationale: These two soft categories are leftovers from page moves by in February 2016 because of "the The" in the titles, and were also formerly in Category:Empty categories with no backlinks. Not sure why we should keep these around. Regards,  SONIC 678 21:09, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep if anyone makes one of these "the the" errors, a bot will correct it. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think the double "the the" is likely to be repeated. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete — this is not a common error.
 * Delete - what about those who habitually type 'in in'? Are they to be neglected? Oculi (talk) 09:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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X in in Y soft categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete WP:G6. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting brothels in in texas


 * Propose deleting buildings and structures in in belvidere, vermont


 * Propose deleting houses in in winneshiek county, iowa


 * Nominator's rationale: These three were left over from moves to bring their correctly formatted counterparts more in line with naming conventions, and ended up as soft categories after Category:Empty categories with no backlinks (which contained the incorrectly formatted ones) was deleted back in August 2020. I don't see why we should keep these lying around, delete them unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC 678 17:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - serve no purpose whatever. Oculi (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Sportspeople from Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sportspeople from Saskatchewan. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople from Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan to Category:People from Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan
 * Nominator's rationale: It's a village of 2000 people with no "People from" category at present, I can't imagine it's likely to grow much beyond the current two members so WP:SMALLCAT Le Deluge (talk) 09:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - 'People from' should precede 'Sportspeople from'. The parents should be changed. (Or it could be upmerged as the population of Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan is 2000.) Oculi (talk) 11:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Sportspeople from Saskatchewan per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:20, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Sportspeople from Saskatchewan, and purge those who are not notable for participating in sport actually in Saskatchewan. (Only one, the others moved to Alberta.)
 * Merge per nom.--User:Namiba 15:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Medicine in Lithuania

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:44, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Medicine in Lithuania to Category:Health in Lithuania
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Disease outbreaks in Lithuania which is more about health than medicine. Rathfelder (talk) 09:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - Category:Medicine by country hardly exists, whereas Category:Health by country is in good health. Oculi (talk) 11:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "Medicine " in this context is unhelpfully ambiguous. We have well developed category trees for health care and for health.  I dont think we want a seperate tree for medicine.  Rathfelder (talk) 20:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge — and serve as a template for the others.


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Category:People associated with water

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people associated with water


 * Nominator's rationale: This is WP:NONDEFINING. I've yet to hear anyone say, "See that guy? He's associated with water!" Fortunately, there aren't similar categories for earth, air and fire. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Haha, you mean this guy?! Yes, delete per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete even as a container category for swimmers, fishermen, sailors it would be of little use. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete — earth, air and fire got a LOL from me!
 * Delete for usual reasons for ASSOC categories -- scope is so vague as to make inclusion a subjective issue. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:49, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this one is obvious - presumably since we're 80% water, we're all "associated" with it, but Peterkingiron also correctly mentions the usual subjectiveness of ASSOC categories. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Hard to think of a clearer example of WP:OCASSOC. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This does not really link all the contents in an acceptable way. I am just glad no one has been placed directly in this category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Split rather than delete -- This is merely a container for Category:Water-related occupations; Category:water-related deaths (and births) and a couple of oddments, which might be purged. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Former Countries of Afghanistan

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:Former countries in Central Asia and Category:History of Afghanistan. I've posted at WT:WPAF and WP:CFDWM to hopefully have it carried out by someone familiar with the history of Afghanistan. If there are no responses there I will carefully carry it out my self. (non-admin closure) --Trialpears (talk) 13:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Former Countries of Afghanistan to Category:Former countries in modern-day Afghanistan
 * Nominator's rationale: I'm open to other title suggestions, of course, but surely there has to be something less clunky than the current one. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 03:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Purge as it is non-defining to Iranian and Indian empires that stretched into Afghanistan. Also at least do not write "countries" with capital C. No objection to deletion either. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Someone else purged already. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Somebody else has unpurged, this is a moving target.


 * Listify All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete deleting allows for a better remake of the category. Bvcitizen (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete — upmerge to existing Category:Former countries in Central Asia and Category:History of Afghanistan.  nowhere to merge, nowhere to listify, it has no parents.
 * This was created by Bvcitizen (who now wants to delete it). M Imtiaz then requested rename within an hour. Good Olfactory has added some parents today, so I've modified my !vote.


 * Rename Suggest Category:Countries preceding Afghanistan. Several of these are earlier names for the same country, but others may have had a different extent.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom The new title has a clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete but merge contents to Category:Former countries in Central Asia and Category:History of Afghanistan. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support merge but then it should really be a manual merge. For example Emirate of Afghanistan is not about a former country but about a former form of state of an existing country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed that it should be done carefully. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete and merge per Good Olfactories suggestion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:University of Florida University of Florida College of Liberal Arts and Sciences alumni

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 * The result of the discussion was: G7 delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting university of florida university of florida college of liberal arts and sciences alumni


 * Nominator's rationale: I didn’t realize I made a typo until after I created the category. Made a new one with the right title. ThurstonMitchell (talk) 01:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Please tag the category page with . Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Named military operations in World War II

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Named military operations in World War II to Category:Military operations of World War II
 * Nominator's rationale: Newly created category that doesn't seem to add much value over the parent  Le Deluge (talk) 00:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge Every Wikipedia article and category has a "name"; this isn't a meaningful breakdown. Sometimes we've used "individual" instead to clarify something is a set category but I don't think that's needed here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge, I am the editor that created this category. I now regret it and initiated the call to close it down — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete unseth (talk • contribs) 2021-02-15 14:46:50 (UTC)
 * Merge the naming status is not a good way to sub-group.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Heroes of the Republic of Cuba

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Heroes of the Republic of Cuba
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Hero of the Republic of Cuba was conceptually inspired by other communist "hero" awards but, in practice, was given out much more sparingly to 40 some recipients accordigng to the main article. (In contrast, the equivalent East German award has thousands of factory worker and farmer recipients.) The category currently consists of the following articles: Five high ranking Cuban officials (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), one high ranking Soviet official (6), three Soviet cosmonauts (7, 8, 9), one Cuban cosmonaut (10), two pre-revolutionary Cubans (11, 12) plus a group article on five cuban intelligence officers arrested in Miami (11-15). The one thing these articles all have in common is they mention this award in passing with other honours so it doesn't seem defining. I expanded the existing list of recipients located right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per thoroughly researched nomination.
 * Delete -- certainly OCAWARD. I hope that the liste in the article is the entire content of the category, but have not fully checked.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It was originally incomplete but I added the rest of the category contents prior to nominating. - RevelationDirect (talk)


 * Delete more overcategorization by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of Construction
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of Construction
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD and WP:OVERLAPCAT)
 * The Order of Construction is an Iranian award for building construction, economic development and civil engineering projects. If the articles in this category were full of construction company owners, building project managers and architects, this would likely be defining. However, 6 of the 7 articles were high ranking officials who backed construction projects as part of their political position and are all already under either Category:Government ministers of Iran or Category:Iranian governors. (The only exception is Abolghasem Mozaffari, a military leader whose article gives no hint as to why he won the award.) The articles in the category are about evenly split between those that mention the award in passing and those that don't mention it at all so it doesn't seem defining. There is already a list of the winners, most of which are redlinks, right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per thoroughly researched nomination.
 * Delete over categorization by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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