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Category:Executive branch of the Singapore Government

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Executive branch of the government of Singapore. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 08:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Executive branch of the Singapore Government to Category:Executive branch of the government of Singapore
 * Nominator's rationale: rename using "of country" per Category_names and turning "government" into lowercase. This was discussed at WP:CFDS before. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Category:Executive branch of the Singapore Government to Category:Executive branch of the Singapore government – lowercase government.
 * Category:Executive branch of the Singapore Government to Category:Executive branch of the Singapore government – lowercase government.
 * This should be Category:Executive branch of the Government of Singapore per Category:Government of Singapore, Government of Singapore (C2C and C2D). Oculi (talk) 19:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The parent is trailing "government". Also capitalization.
 * Also WP:C2B, naming conventions: Category_names, explicitly including government - Categories of topics usually in the domain of the state are named "... of country". Oculi (talk) 12:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Support  - excellent nom. Oculi (talk) 02:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support  per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


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People from Elis

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge, except no consensus to merge Category:People from Andritsaina. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Andravida-Kyllini to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Andravida to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lechaina to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Andritsaina-Krestena to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Andritsaina to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Skillounta to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Archaia Olympia (municipality) to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Foloi to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lampeia to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Olympia, Greece to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Ilida (municipality) to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pineios (municipality) to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Vartholomio to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pyrgos (municipality) to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Iardanos to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Oleni to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pyrgos, Elis to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zacharo (municipality) to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Figaleia to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Phigalia to Category:People from Elis
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zacharo to Category:People from Elis
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns, in this case except Pyrgos, Elis (25,000 people), Amaliada (17,000 people) and Gastouni (7,000 people). The proposal includes Andritsaina with 5 articles in the category, however of which 1 article of someone from the neigbouring village Theisoa, Greece. This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * It seems we will go on a case by case basis when it comes to communities. In this case, Theisoa is said to be "6 km northeast of connected Andritsaina", meaning, as I interpret it, that it's one of the cases where the communities are physically connected, making for one settlement (and it's actually 5.5km to be exact). It was already decided in Athens' case to marge places such as Kifisia and Vouliagmeni, independent communities with more than 30km of distance, and with thousands of residents each. --Antondimak (talk) 08:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The difference is that Kifissia is a suburb of Athens while Theisoa is a village on its own. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Clarification Category:People from Pyrgos, Elis has 46 entries and isn't tagged so I'm assuming it wasn't intended to be listed here. RevelationDirect (talk) 07:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Most for Now/Keep Andritsaina These nearly empty categories hinder rather than aid navigation but no objection to recreating any specific town that get to 5+ articles. Category:People from Andritsaina is already there and should be retained. (Also keep Pyrgos if still part of nom.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 07:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


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People from Grevena (regional unit)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Grevena (municipality) to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Irakleotes to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Mesolouri to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Perivoli, Grevena to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Samarina to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Theodoros Ziakas to Category:People from Grevena (regional unit)
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except Greneva proper (13.000 people) and Avdella which is a tiny village now but probably used to be bigger (it has been burnt down twice). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge All for Now These nearly empty categories hinder rather than aid navigation but no objection to recreating any specific town that get to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 07:40, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


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People from Ioannina (regional unit)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge, except: no consensus to merge Category:People from Zagori. Therefore, merge Category:People from East Zagori‎, Category:People from Papingo‎, and Category:People from Tymfi‎ to Category:People from Zagori rather than as proposed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:07, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:People from Dodoni (municipality) to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Dodoni to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Konitsa (municipality) to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Mastorochoria to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Metsovo (municipality) to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Egnatia, Ioannina to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from North Tzoumerka to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Katsanochoria to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Syrrako to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Tzoumerka to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pamvotida to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pogoni to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Ano Pogoni to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Delvinaki to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zagori to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from East Zagori to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Papingo to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Tymfi to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zitsa (municipality) to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Ekali, Ioannina to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Evrymenes, Ioannina to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pasaronas to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zitsa to Category:People from Ioannina (regional unit)
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except Konitsa (3,000 people), Metsovo (2,500 people). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge Most for Now/Keep Zagori with alt merges These nearly empty categories hinder rather than aid navigation but no objection to recreating any specific town that get to 5+ articles. For Category:People from Zagori, if the 3 subcats were upmerged to that level, there would be 7 articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 07:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bishops of Narok

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Narok to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Nakuru Rathfelder (talk) 19:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Nambale to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Maseno Rathfelder (talk) 19:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Mumias to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Maseno Rathfelder (talk) 19:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Katakwa to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Maseno Rathfelder (talk) 19:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Butere to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Maseno Rathfelder (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Bungoma to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Anglican dioceses of Maseno Rathfelder (talk) 19:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Lodwar to Category:Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Kenya
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article - Anglican dioceses of Nakuru Rathfelder (talk) 18:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, too little content, especially because the dioceses article isn't really appropriate. I have been trying to populate the categories with biographies of bishops but found no more than two; they can be moved to Category:Bishops of the Anglican Church of Kenya. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support the first 5 - the diocese article would be appropriate (sorted at the top) if actual bishops could be found (it is not difficult to source links for a bishop but there are dozens of them so the task is daunting). This said, a search for 'Bishop of Narok' returns nothing. Katakwa: https://www.ackenya.org/list-of-dioceses/katakwa Oppose  Category:Bishops of Bungoma and Category:Bishops of Lodwar where actual bishops have been found. Oculi (talk) 20:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support -- These are unnecessary levels. Peterkingiron (talk) 00:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bishops of Malawi

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bishops of Malawi to Category:Anglican bishops in Malawi
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article, and the category is intended to be for Anglicans Rathfelder (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: These two categories aren't the same at all. "Bishops of Malawi" are people who held the specific title Bishop of Malawi; "Anglican bishops in Malawi" are all the people who have been Anglican bishops anywhere in that country. The former is a subset of the latter. (Btw, there have been no non-Anglicans with the exact title Bishop of Malawi, so the former category is not ambiguous.) DBD 17:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Donald Arden seems to be the only person who ever was Bishop of Malawi, so he doesnt really need his own category, especially as he is in two other Malawian diocesan categories. Category:Anglican bishops in Malawi can properly be divided by dioceses. Rathfelder (talk) 18:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Since "Bishop of Malawi" is a subset of "Anglican bishops in Malawi", an upmerge is fully appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - DBD is correct. Category:Bishops of Malawi should be (and is) a subcat of Category:Anglican bishops in Malawi. Oculi (talk) 20:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I could come 'round to redirecting Category:Bishops of Malawi to Category:Bishops of Nyasaland, since Arden was the only holder of that See with the precise title. DBD 20:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Perfectly happy with that suggestion. Rathfelder (talk) 20:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated. Just because at least one person has a specific title does not entitle them to an individualized category. If we really think there will be future confusion, a redirect will be appropriate.
 * Merge as nom -- However the parent should not be Bishops in Africa, but Category:Bishops in the Province of Central Africa. Church of the Province of Central Africa covers several countries.  It is possible that there will be issues of anachronism, going back to a period before the Province was organised thus, but that may be difficult to avoid.  Peterkingiron (talk) 00:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I dont think ecclesiastical provinces are realistic parents. They change too frequently, at least in Africa.  Rathfelder (talk) 00:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Infosys Prize

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:34, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the infosys prize


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD, in the articles the award is mostly mentioned in passing together with various other awards. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete The articles don't treat it as defining per nom and the Infosys Prize article already listifies them by type of Infosys Prize. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:List of Institutions using Infosys Finacle

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting list of institutions using infosys finacle


 * Nominator's rationale: I doubt that Finacle is notable; notwithstanding, we don't label companies by the software they use, as an editor has done to create this category. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Feels similar to WP:PERFCAT. If we categorized major companies by all the software packages they use, it would create category clutter without aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't imagine anything more non-notable than usage of minor software. Major firms would have thousands of these categories; many use multiple vendors in given genres. Kuru   (talk)  17:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see any sources in the articles that support that the company uses the software, and of course that usage could change any time. Not a useful category. OhNo itsJamie Talk 04:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Not sure where this fits procedurally, but list_of_institutions_using_tcs_bancs should be deleted for the same reason (and was canvassed by the same user). OhNo itsJamie Talk 04:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The comment is correct, these should be considered bundled if it is procedurally allowed. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Male villains

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) – DarkGlow • 20:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting male villains


 * Propose deleting female villains


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF, cross-categorization that isn't encyclopedic. A character is notable for being a villain, not for being a male villain or female villain. Their gender usually doesn't have anything to do with their villainy. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:29, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note to closer: If closed as a merge, this would imply that all subcategories also get merged into their non gendered parent category. E.g. Category:Female film villains is merged into Category:Film villains.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This will probably require a fresh nomination whatever the outcome, including subcategories, , , , , , , , , , , and . Place Clichy (talk) 10:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Since when is defusing character categories by gender bad? And being a female or male villain is pretty defining for quite a few characters anyway.★Trekker (talk) 11:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all it opens a Pandora's Box since it would imply most other character traits need to be diffused by gender, such as Heroes, etc. This is why policies against trivial intersections exist. Second of all, there isn't any room for characters who are non-binary, since it creates a strictly male/female dichtotomy. There could be a category of non-binary villains, but one must ask, is it really defining for their character to be both male and a villain.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't see any issue with diffusing pretty much any time of character by gender, its one of the most basic ways humans differenciate themselves and I'd say most characters are rather defined by being male or female.★Trekker (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge both to Category:Villains insofar the articles aren't already somewhere else in that tree, this concerns trivial intersections, and per WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. You can't seriously argue, IMO, that a "male villain" is not a distinct type from a "female villain".  You can bemoan the fact that culture is what it is, and presents and reflects stereotypes.  It would seem nonsensical for Wikipedia to try to sanitize / destroy information in this area.  This distinction is not particularly controversial, but I would probably go further and support categorization by specific, narrow types of villains that reflect offensive, politically incorrect types, say "male chauvinist pig Australian/Bolivian/Cape Verdean/Danish/whatever pothead fat rapists with lisps" (making this up), or whatever, if there are a few of those and especially if they are ever discussed as a group. --Doncram (talk) 21:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure how you mean a "male villain" is a distinct type from a "female villain". Of course gender is distinct, but that is not sufficient for WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My argument is that the intersection of gender and villainy doesn't define the character at all. Reliable sources don't say "Handsome Jack is the male villain of Borderlands 2". Or even "is the villain, who happens to be male". They would just say the villain, because whether he is male is meaningless with regards to that, or how good of a villain they are. Therefore, it's overcategorization. That doesn't mean it's not true, just that it shouldn't be a category.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:50, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Support Sure seems like a an overcat to me. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:04, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge both to Category:Villains per nom and Marcocapelle. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Both Clicked on quite a few and this seems non-defining and to run against WP:OCEGRS. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * How is it non-defining? Almost every character end up defined by their gender in some form because humans almost always do that, its even built in to quite a few languages, including the one used on en.Wikipedia.★Trekker (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Villain is defining, gender is defining, but there is no evidence that the intersection is a notable topic in its own right. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Question What are you doing to do about all the child-categories? And what about stock villain characters like Femme fatales? Even if you say most characters aren't defined by their gender there are still a lot that are.★Trekker (talk) 17:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Being a femme fatale is a defining trait and not a cross-categorization. All the ones that are X meets Y where X is "female" or "male" should be merged to their parent category without the gender.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Femme fatales are not villains, they are even often heroes. Carmen and La Dame aux Camélias come to mind. They are not even a child of the nominated category. Place Clichy (talk) 10:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Diffusing by gender makes sense. Dimadick (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd argue it doesn't make sense. Is there a particular reason it makes sense?ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Gender is inherently notable. Anatomy is one of the primary defining characteristics of a person, including of that fictional characters. Also, "non-binary" is an abstract political concept based on gender norms, not an actual science-based gender. I assume these categorization systems are meant for the two genders firmly based in reality. The nominator should not use his personal political beliefs as a rationale to delete things. However, I do think the category title "Female villains" is rather oddly worded and should instead simply be at "Villainesses." --115.75.1.184 (talk) 01:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * See WP:CATGENDER. A category should have a specific relation to the topic. "Male" is not specifically related to being a villain. In sports, it is only split by gender when there are events that only permit a certain gender to compete. Being a villain is equal-opportunity.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge both to Category:Villains. If the gender of these characters is defining, it will be reflected by other categories such as, but the villain/gender intersection is not notable. We do not break biographical categories by gender for the sole purpose of diffusion, in the real or fictional realm. Place Clichy (talk) 10:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge both to Category:Villains.
 * Merge both the intersection of villany and sex is not so defining we should categize by it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for reasons of clarity and comprehensibility. Unseperated cat much too huge. And yes, it's a difference from any other than the moral point of view. --Just N. (talk) 21:43, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Per WP:CATGENDER, it's a difference when there is a clear male/female delineation between types of villains. There isn't. Whether a villain is male or female makes no difference in what they are able to do. Simply being a difference for difference's sake is a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete The female version is a villainess and so "male villain" is tautology. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for size & because gender and villainy is a huge topic in the various kinds of cultural studies covering this material, & it is silly to pretend otherwise. Yes, looking at you @Marcocapelle, and others. Johnbod (talk) 01:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * This category is about fiction, not about real life culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Question Does this proposal cover all of the subcategories, too? Because while this discussion might determine that Category:Male villains should be deleted, that won't stop editors working on, for example, films and video games from recreating Category:Male video game villains and Category:Male film villains. You might alert the relevant WikiProjects to this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I already alerted them. Liz Read! Talk! 20:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I'm going to note several cats that were deleted here Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 5 of "* featuring female antagonists", with good points that SUBJECTIVECAT (presumably, what an "antagonist" is) applies. Maybe the same issue is here, as what a "villain" is absolutely depends on context. --M asem (t) 20:38, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CATGENDER, particularly the "female heads of government category" example. To demonstrate special encyclopedic interest, a search engine test shows "female villains" resulting in reliable sources listing such, where "male villains" results in reliable sources listing just villains. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 20:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * So if I understand correctly we should merge Category:Male villains to Category:Villains but keep Category:Female villains. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd do a separate CFD discussion to merge male villains to villains, depending on the outcome of this one. At this point, I support keeping both since various arguments are mixed in. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 16:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per above.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 18:59, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:La bohème

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting la bohème


 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary and confusing duplication (overcategorization). Contains only the article La bohème and the subcategory Category:Films based on La bohème‎. Both the article and the subcategory are already in the hierarchy of Category:Works based on Scenes of Bohemian Life, so the separate Category:La bohème is therefore superfluous. (It's also misleading because it could be construed as referring to the opera of the same name by Leoncavallo, La bohème (Leoncavallo), which is, correctly, listed alongside the Puccini opera in Category:Operas based on Scenes of Bohemian Life, a sub-category of Category:Works based on Scenes of Bohemian Life). Smerus (talk) 15:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, too few articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Transport in Karditsa

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Transport in Karditsa to Category:Transport in Karditsa (regional unit) and Category:Karditsa
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Sofades to Category:Buildings and structures in Karditsa (regional unit)
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge as WP:SMALLCAT. These transport categories were created incorrectly, perhaps by an editor who is inexperienced in categories. I re-parented both the transport categories, but could only find one page that belongs in each of the nominated ones. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge — as a good first step. Although still will be very small categories. Really should be into parents Category:Transport in Thessaly and Category:Buildings and structures in Thessaly.


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Category:Labor unionists from Illinois (merge)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Labor unionists from Illinois to Category:Trade unionists from Illinois
 * Nominator's rationale: We have 40+ US states that use pattern Trade unionists by X and this is clearly a duplicate match with Category:Trade unionists from Illinois Shushugah (talk) 11:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 11:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. I created both categories, probably with the intent of merging labor unionists into trade unionists. Speedy support from the creator.--User:Namiba 15:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Same scope. Dimadick (talk) 10:48, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


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Multiple Proposed renaming of Montana, Massachusetts, South Carolina, Wisconsin
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Labor unionists from Montana to Category:Trade unionists from Montana


 * Propose renaming Category:Labor unionists from Massachusetts to Category:Trade unionists from Massachusetts


 * Propose renaming Category:Labor unionists from South Carolina to Category:Trade unionists from South Carolina


 * Propose renaming Category:Labor unionists from Wisconsin to Category:Trade unionists from Wisconsin


 * Nominator's rationale: Naming consistency with the 40 other states Shushugah (talk) 11:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Support - per and convention in  (which should also be renamed). Oculi (talk) 11:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support I nominated American labor unionists by state back in 2019 but no consensus was reached. I also suggest adding Category:Labor unionists from Washington, D.C. to the nomination.--User:Namiba 15:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per consistency argument. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Assizes
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 * The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting assizes


 * Nominator's rationale: This is overcategorization by shared name. Some of these are regular courts, some are traveling courts, some are specific legal actions, some are proclamations by a head of state, some are pieces of legislation, some are outbreaks of disease (really). Assizes (disambiguation) gives an incomplete indication of the variety of ways this term is used. This category is just grouping all of the articles that use "assize" in some way. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete This is an ambiguation page masquerading as a category. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge content to Assizes (disambiguation) per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Zahringer Lion
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Order of the Zähringer Lion
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of the Zahringer Lion
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of the Zähringer Lion‎
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights Commander First Class of the Order of the Zähringer Lion
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights Commander Second Class of the Order of the Zähringer Lion
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights First Class of the Order of the Zähringer Lion
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT-1, WP:OVERLAPCAT-2 and WP:OCAWARD-3)
 * The Order of the Zähringer Lion was an award of the German Grand Duchy of Baden that served several purposes:
 * 1: Foreign Leaders: When high ranking visitors came to the Grand Duchy, or vice versa, this was given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Alexander III of Russia, Edward VII and Frederick William IV of Prussia] are not remotely defined by this award. The vast majority of the articles in this category were given for this reason.
 * 2: Local Royals: There are several local royals like Prince William of Baden and Frederick I, Grand Duke of Baden who are already categorized under Category:Princes of Baden and Category:Grand Dukes of Baden, respectively.
 * 3: Civilians: Hans Gude was a prominent painter and Gustav Berdel a veterinarian. I'm guessing there were a lot of such recipients but only a handful are notable enough for Wikipeida articles.
 * I added a collapsible list here in the main article for any readers interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Creu de Sant Jordi
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Listifying/Deleting Category:Recipients of the Creu de Sant Jordi
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Creu de Sant Jordi was established in 1981 an is the 2nd highest award issued by Catalonia in Spain. The awards generally mention this in passing so it doesn't seem defining. The wide variety of recipients--historian, teacher, writer, politician, philosopher, etc--means there is no common thread that could aid navigation. There is already a separate list article, List of recipients of the Creus de Sant Jordi, for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Administrative territorial entities by type
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 29%23Category:Administrative territorial entities by type