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Category:Sportspeople from Chennai

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Athletes from Chennai to Category:Athletes from Tamil Nadu / Category:Sportspeople from Chennai
 * Propose merging Category:Basketball players from Chennai to Category:Basketball players from Tamil Nadu / Category:Sportspeople from Chennai
 * Propose merging Category:Footballers from Chennai to Category:Footballers from Tamil Nadu / Category:Sportspeople from Chennai
 * Propose merging Category:Cue sports players from Chennai to Category:Cue sports players from Tamil Nadu / Category:Sportspeople from Chennai
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. All categories have under 5 articles. User:Namiba 21:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now These currently break up the actual article and hinder navigation but no objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Rikster2 (talk) 23:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Not enough content to warrant a city level category. State level is working fine. SFB 01:17, 3 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Burghers by occupation

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting burgher actresses


 * Propose deleting burgher architects


 * Propose deleting burgher businesspeople


 * Propose deleting burgher dancers


 * Propose deleting burgher engineers


 * Propose deleting burgher physicians


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEGRS and WP:SMALLCAT. User:Namiba 20:29, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, trivial intersections between ethnicity and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCEGRS. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Sri Lankan categories seem to have been indiscriminately spread in ethnic-occupational intersections regardless of the conditions set at WP:OCEGRS. Place Clichy (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Films set in one day

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films set in one day


 * Nominator's rationale: This category was previously deleted, albeit with a slightly different title, and more than eight years ago. Bringing it here to see if consensus has changed.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, as discussed before it is a trivial criterion and an arbitrary cut-off. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not defining. Nardog (talk) 03:34, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is a List of media set within one day. I have added the missing entries from the current category members in good faith. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not defining.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There are plenty of films where the events take place within a short timespan, but I doubt this is defining to their narratives. Dimadick (talk) 16:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Formerly wanted fugitives

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Formerly wanted fugitives to Category:Fugitives
 * Propose merging Category:Fugitives formerly wanted by Sri Lanka to Category:Fugitives wanted by Sri Lanka
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a good idea to base a category on a temporary state of affairs. Quite a lot of the people in the other subcategories of fugitives are no longer wanted. Rathfelder (talk) 19:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep/merge Both categories are needed, so we know who is no longer wanted by the law, or merge if we must since we don't want this category to go to waste. Davidgoodheart (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge/delete per nom, and besides Wikipedia is not a police database. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that I added "/delete" because the top Category:Formerly wanted fugitives should plainly be deleted, the articles are already in one or two other subcategories of the proposed merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge I'm not sure if I'm sold on having "wanted" categories, but we definitely should not categorize by something people are not. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with very few exceptions we do not seperate former and current in categories. John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge being "wanted" shouldn't be divided into a temporary category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Physician-politicians

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american physician-politicians


 * Propose deleting chilean physician-politicians


 * Propose deleting iranian physician-politicians


 * Propose deleting italian physician-politicians


 * Propose deleting pakistani physician-politicians


 * Propose deleting taiwanese physician-politicians


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersections. Many of these were previously deleted following a 2009 discussion. User:Namiba 16:29, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, trivial intersections. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Per WP:G4. We already discussed this and came to a consensus. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, I hadn't realized there was already a consensus when I created the American, Chilean, and Italian categories - that's my bad. I had assumed since there is a Physicians in the United States Congress article, a category would have been worth making as well. I'm ok with deleting it. Kyjama (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete while the seperate identities are both defining, this intersection of the two is not defining, such politicians are in no way a group, and at some times and places this has been a fairly high overlap. I would also point out that in the Pakistani case the category as written is an extremely narrow one, and in the highly unlikely case we keep it we should change it to Category:Pakistani Medical doctor-politicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:38, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete no inherently notable intersections. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication that this is a notable topic on its own. Dimadick (talk) 16:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Murdered religious leaders

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting murdered religious leaders


 * Propose deleting murdered bishops‎


 * Propose deleting murdered roman catholic bishops‎


 * Propose deleting murdered russian bishops‎


 * Propose deleting murdered cardinals‎


 * Propose deleting murdered missionaries‎


 * Propose deleting murdered priests‎


 * Propose deleting murdered eastern orthodox priests‎


 * Propose deleting murdered hindu priests‎


 * Propose deleting murdered roman catholic priests‎


 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.


 * ... who were killed for reasons other than religious motivation. Others listed under "Assassinated" and "Martyrs".


 * Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.


 * See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 22
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. These are trivial intersections with the exception of martyrs which are not part of the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There is significant overlap between these categories and their corresponding "martyrs" categories. I presume that those here not included in the martyrs ones were mere coincidence and not notably related. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Their religious activities could well be the cause of the murders. Dimadick (talk) 16:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That cannot possibly be true, as this section of the category tree is reserved to other than religious motivation, as already noted in the nomination. Please read more carefully. Removing this will assist editors who don't read the category tree, and add them blindly.


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Category:Murdered scientists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete'. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting murdered scientists


 * Propose deleting murdered american scientists


 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.


 * Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.


 * See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 22
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, trivial intersections. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * But, in addition: the subCategory:Murdered American scientists should be merged to Category:American murder victims. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:36, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Usually coincidental so a trivial intersection. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:58, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:19, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Their scientific activities or their advocacy for scientific causes could well be the reason of the murders. Dimadick (talk) 16:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That applies to only very few articles in this category. Please read them through. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Black British sportspeople

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting black british sportspeople


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, violation of WP:BLPCAT: the case for each content category must be made clear by the article text and its reliable sources. In fact almost none of the articles in this category makes this clear. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:15, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Suppport I would add that this is true for most ethnicity categories. While it is often defining, I would be in favor of blowing it up and starting over.--User:Namiba 16:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - per cfd 2020_March_2#Black_British_people (a resounding keep). This issue is in the UK news every day, regarding nearly every occupation. Oculi (talk) 18:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is a well understood ethnic descriptor. I do not think misattributing ethnicity is likely to lead to a libel suit, the reason for the BLP policy.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Whatever the reason for BLP policy, it is what we have to adhere to. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:32, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Hmlarson (talk) 20:12, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the above and remove articles that don't mention the subject's ethnicity, per WP:CATVER.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete when in practice categories are applied regularly in the face of no text indicating they apply and no article indication that the intersection is actually defining, the categories should be deleted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete another "descent" category in disguise, suffering the usual problems, see User:Carlossuarez46/Descent categories. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:20, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Oculi's rationale. Dimadick (talk) 16:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete because these categories have been indiscriminately spread to too many articles that do not meet the criteria set in the WP:EGRS guideline. In fact, their mere existence (unfortunately) serves as invitation to even good-faith contributors to plaster them on too many articles based on a mere face test, rather than reliable sources and Wikipedia guidelines. Ethnicity is a topic worth a great ammount of nuance, which are much better treated in article body with all possible commentary and references, rather than a mere category inclusion that does not allow any nuance or mention of sources. The tool is broken and hard to fix, therefore the best way forward is probably to be very conservative in creating such categories, and deleting trivial intersections between ethnicity and occupation which do not meet WP:OCEGRS conditions. Place Clichy (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


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Mayors in the Netherlands

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging
 * Category:Mayors of Coevorden to Category:Mayors in Drenthe and Category:People from Coevorden
 * Category:Mayors of Dalen to Category:Mayors in Drenthe and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Hoogeveen to Category:Mayors in Drenthe and Category:People from Hoogeveen
 * Category:Mayors of Meppel to Category:Mayors in Drenthe and Category:People from Meppel
 * Category:Mayors of Bolsward to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Bolsward and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Dokkum to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Dokkum and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands


 * Category:Mayors of Franeker to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Franeker and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Noardeast-Fryslân to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Noardeast-Fryslân
 * Category:Mayors of Smallingerland to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Smallingerland
 * Category:Mayors of Sneek to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Sneek and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Súdwest-Fryslân to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Súdwest-Fryslân
 * Category:Mayors of Waadhoeke to Category:Mayors in Friesland and Category:People from Waadhoeke
 * Category:Mayors of Apeldoorn to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Apeldoorn
 * Category:Mayors of Ede, Netherlands to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Ede, Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Elburg to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Elburg
 * Category:Mayors of Oldebroek to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Oldebroek
 * Category:Mayors of Overbetuwe to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Overbetuwe
 * Category:Mayors of Tiel to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Tiel
 * Category:Mayors of Zaltbommel to Category:Mayors in Gelderland and Category:People from Zaltbommel
 * Category:Mayors of Beerta to Category:Mayors in Groningen (province) and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Delfzijl to Category:Mayors in Groningen (province) and Category:People from Delfzijl
 * Category:Mayors of Oldambt (municipality) to Category:Mayors in Groningen (province) and Category:People from Oldambt (municipality)
 * Category:Mayors of Pekela to Category:Mayors in Groningen (province) and Category:People from Pekela
 * Category:Mayors of Veendam to Category:Mayors in Groningen (province) and Category:People from Veendam
 * Category:Mayors of Landgraaf to Category:Mayors in Limburg (Netherlands) and Category:People from Landgraaf
 * Category:Mayors of Nuth to Category:Mayors in Limburg (Netherlands) and Category:People from Nuth
 * Category:Mayors of Roermond to Category:Mayors in Limburg (Netherlands) and Category:People from Roermond
 * Category:Mayors of Simpelveld to Category:Mayors in Limburg (Netherlands) and Category:People from Simpelveld
 * Category:Mayors of Weert to Category:Mayors in Limburg (Netherlands) and Category:People from Weert
 * Category:Mayors of Haaren, North Brabant to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from Haaren, North Brabant
 * Category:Mayors of Helvoirt to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of 's-Hertogenbosch to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from 's-Hertogenbosch
 * Category:Mayors of Moerdijk to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from Moerdijk
 * Category:Mayors of Tilburg to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from Tilburg
 * Category:Mayors of Udenhout to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from Udenhout and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Vught to Category:Mayors in North Brabant and Category:People from Vught
 * Category:Mayors of Arnemuiden to Category:Mayors in Zeeland and Category:Mayors of former municipalities in the Netherlands
 * Category:Mayors of Middelburg to Category:Mayors in Zeeland and Category:People from Middelburg


 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one or two articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now While these places would have had more than five mayors, most would be non-notable. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Please redirect:
 * Category:Mayors of Meppel to Category:Mayors in Drenthe and Category:Politicians from Meppel
 * gidonb (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It is very unusual to create category redirects to parent categories. Category redirects are mainly used in case of synonym. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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Sanskrit scholars by nationality

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:50, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Austrian Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from Austria and Category:Austrian Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Canadian Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from Canada and Category:Canadian Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Chinese Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from China and Category:Chinese Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Czech Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from the Czech Republic and Category:Czech Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Italian Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from Italy and Category:Italian Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Sri Lankan Sanskrit scholars Category:Linguists from Sri Lanka and to Category:Sri Lankan Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Swiss Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from Switzerland and Category:Swiss Indologists and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Propose merging Category:Thai Sanskrit scholars to Category:Linguists from Thailand and Category:Sanskrit scholars
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one, two or three articles in every of these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge All I'm open to making exceptions to WP:SMALLCAT if it leaves a few small categories to complete a set, but this whole tree is anemic. It is also does not seem to be the approach of other languages under Category:Linguists by language of study. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure viewing Sanskrit scholars primarily as a subcat of linguists is the right approach. IMO it seems more comparable to Category:Classical scholars or its subcat Category:Latinists, which appears to have an established by-nationality subcategorisation scheme. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This nomination isn't opposing doing away with this nationality tree altogether since the well populated Indian, British, American and French subcategories are not nominated. The question here is really should we be creating nationality subcats in every instance. Usually we use the WP:SMALLCAT exception when the tree is generally well populated with just a few runts. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Category:Thai Sanskrit scholars. Plenty potential for expansion, as there are many notable people who are still red links, so WP:SMALLCAT doesn't quite apply. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No objection to recreating the Thai category later if it ever gets up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Suggest merging all European scholars into one category. The Sri Lankans are likely to be Tamil and Hindu, so that they are different — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs)
 * Upmerge these are all below the normal size threshold. Also because these scholars will often study and publish on issues besides just sanskrit, the more broad parent categories plus the specific sanskrit scholars category tend to be a reasonable arrangement of the articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Genies in video games

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, without prejudice to a proposal to change it to Category:Video games about jinn. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:51, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Genies in video games to Category:Video games about genies
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Support Though the main article is called Jinn, not genie. Dimadick (talk) 16:59, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Regents by regency in Indonesia

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Regents by regency in Indonesia to Category:Regents of places in Indonesia
 * Propose merging Category:Mayors by city in Indonesia to Category:Mayors of places in Indonesia
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, unnecessary intermediate category level "by" something because the parent category is (nearly) empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:26, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge Both per nom as the layer does not aid navigation. (I had to read through the articles for a bit since I was unaware of this definition of "regency".) - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Regency (Indonesia) is the main article. Just for info. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Shopping courts

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting shopping courts


 * Nominator's rationale: Not clear what makes any of these "shopping courts". Shopping court is currently prodded for lack of sourcing, and the concept seems no different than "outdoor mall". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. FWIW these "courts" sound identical to what are known as shopping plazas in other parts of the world. Grutness... wha?   02:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Even with the main article having been recently improved, I don't see that categorization here is defining or objective.RevelationDirect (talk) 13:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not defining....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment, the current contents are now listed in the article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not sure the difference between a shopping court and a strip mall. (btw, someone could nominate Category:Strip malls as well (with its eponymous article and one redirect). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I think a shopping court has more outside walking space, and less quick access to the parking, than the average strip mall, but I am unconvinced that people use either term in ways that limit them to such specific distringuishing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep. I do not see a difference between this category and the others at or  with similar features such as, ,  or . Their merits should probably be discussed together. Also, no merge target is specified and several articles here do not have any other parent category in the shopping mall hierarchy, such as Olvera Street or Carthay Circle, Los Angeles.  may be a possible merge target, as all but one are in the US. Place Clichy (talk) 09:30, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:HR 7722

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting  Category:HR 7722
 * Nominator's rationale: The system is not very notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kepler-1229b (talk • contribs) 00:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Support in principle per WP:SMALLCAT but I suspect the category should be merged to one or more of its parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: there isn't really a suitable category to merge these articles. Praemonitus (talk) 17:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Meridiano de Oro Awards

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:32, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/"Listifying" Category:Meridiano de Oro Awards
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF (WP:OCAWARD and likely WP:SMALLCAT)
 * The Meridiano de Oro is a Venezuelan award given by the Dearmas Block that recognizes "excellence of professionals in the World of Spectacle" and the only article in this category, Daniela Alvarado, doesn't even mention the award. Doesn't get much clearer than that. I don't know if I can say the category is "listified" since there is only 1 article but it is now linked here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Stoner/stonette of the year awards
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Stoner/stonette of the year awards
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
 * High Times magazine gives out these awards. For a minority of the biographies in this category, they're association with marijuana is defining like with Seth Rogan, Snoop Dogg and Bill Maher but they are already well categorized under Category:Canadian cannabis activists, Category:Businesspeople in the cannabis industry and Category:Drug policy reform activists, respectively. In contrast, this award is either mentioned in passing or not at all in the articles so it doesn't seem defining. The winners are already listified in the Stony Awards article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not defining to the recipients.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


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