Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 14



Category:Arsine oxides

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Arsine oxides to Category:Organoarsenic compounds
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only article is Phenylarsine oxide. Also inaccurate, as this compound is not an arsenic analog of a phosphine oxide. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 23:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. While not being a chemist myself I've been surprised to hear about the inaccuracy described. How could this happen to be sorted thus falsely? --Just N. (talk) 07:28, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:The Band Perry members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the band perry members
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only a single redirect to the main article and there are no articles for other band members. Not navigationally functional. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete for Now Serves no navigational function but no objection to recreating if actual articles appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:42, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 07:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Education in Land o' Lakes, Florida

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Education in Land o' Lakes, Florida to Category:Education in Pasco County, Florida
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to Category:Land o' Lakes, Florida per smallcat (articles) User:Namiba 21:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Dual Upmerge for now. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Is it really a good idea to mishmash three articles about a local institution with a category that contains most only colleges? Well, SMALLCAT points to it, but aren't there reasonable exceptions? --Just N. (talk) 07:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:High schools in California

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:High schools in Huntington Beach, California to Category:High schools in Orange County, California and Category:Education in Huntington Beach, California and Category:Buildings and structures in Huntington Beach, California
 * Propose merging Category:High schools in Jurupa Valley, California to Category:High schools in Riverside County, California and Category:Jurupa Valley, California
 * Propose merging Category:High schools in Arroyo Grande, California to Category:High schools in San Luis Obispo County, California and Category:Arroyo Grande, California
 * Propose merging Category:High schools in Chino Hills, California to Category:High schools in San Bernardino County, California and Category:Chino Hills, California
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT, these categories contain fewer than 5 articles and are unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 21:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge All per nom with no objection to recreating if ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom and SMALLCAT. Well, at least Huntington Beach, California has already four articles and might be recreated? --Just N. (talk) 07:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:2nd-century bishops in Greece

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:2nd-century bishops in the Roman Empire. With just two articles, the WP:SMALLCAT arguments were not adequately addressed.  ✗  plicit  02:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:2nd-century bishops in Greece to Category:2nd-century bishops in Roman Achaea
 * Nominator's rationale: All the occupants were bishops of Corinth, in the Roman province of Achaea. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:2nd-century bishops in the Roman Empire per WP:SMALLCAT. If not merged, rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note, see also Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 15. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marco and SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 07:46, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. The Roman Empire is too big a place to merge to.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename This is a clear case of applying a name with no meaning at the time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:25, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:3rd-century bishops in Greece

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  02:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 3rd-century bishops in greece
 * Nominator's rationale: The sole occupant did not practice as bishop in Greece (either ancient or modern). He was Bishop of Antioch and so I've added him to Category:3rd-century bishops in Roman Anatolia. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as virtually empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Did you forget that a big part of coastal Anatolia has been Greek colonies at that times? Isn't it forbidden to judge from our contemporary view point (frontiers) in historic questions? --Just N. (talk) 07:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Greek colonies are not part of Greece, they are just part of Greek colonies. Besides Antioch was established by Seleucis I who ruled large part of the Middle East but not Greece, so it is questionable if we should call Antioch a Greek colony at all (we should call it a Hellenistic city for sure, but that refers to cultural heritage, not to a country). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 22 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as not applicable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:25, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:4th-century bishops in Greece

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  09:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:4th-century bishops in Greece to Category:4th-century bishops in Roman Achaea
 * Nominator's rationale: In the 4th century, most of the area of modern Greece was part of the Roman province of Achaea. Any articles not in Roman Achaea can be parented to Category:4th-century bishops in the Roman Empire. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:4th-century bishops in the Roman Empire per WP:SMALLCAT. If not merged, rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment in the 4th century, Larissa (for Achillius of Larissa) and Euroea (for Donatus of Euroea) would not have been in Achaea, but in Thessalia and Epirus Vetus respectively (see map). Place Clichy (talk) 02:14, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That brings to another point why merging is preferable: the provinces were not stable throughout the history of the Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:4th-century bishops in the Roman Empire per WP:SMALLCAT. As it already contains 4 articles it could be recreated if only one more is added. --Just N. (talk) 07:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Roman Empire category, this borders on anachronism.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:4th-century Cypriot bishops

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  02:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 4th-century cypriot bishops
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SmallCat. Only 1 article which I have diffused to Category:4th-century bishops in the Roman Empire. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Very happy with all the changes above to ancient bishop categories which I created.  Rathfelder (talk) 18:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Question: doesn't Saint Spyridon also belong in Category:Cypriot bishops? – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. I've now added him to that category. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom an SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete we don't need a category for one article. Catfurball (talk) 18:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to the Roman Empire category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:L-type subdwarfs

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:L-type subdwarfs to Category:L-type stars
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, 2MASS J05325346+8246465 is the only known object of its kind. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now with no objections to recreating if it ever grows to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now per nom. --Just N. (talk) 08:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:L-type supergiants
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:L-type supergiants to Category:L-type stars
 * Nominator's rationale: Possible WP:SMALLCAT, only entry is V838 Monocerotis. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now with no objections to recreating if it ever grows to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now per nom. --Just N. (talk) 08:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:American Western (genre) drama films
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American Western (genre) drama films to Category:American Western (genre) films
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Category was created last year without any apparent consensus and limited effort was made to populate it. The criteria for inclusion are hazy because some of the articles mention the word "drama" but most do not. The point is that all Westerns are dramas, although we can accept Comedy Westerns as a distinct offshoot. The target category, from which all 139 drama articles have been moved, contains over 4,000 articles. Trying to move all of those has obviously proved to be an impossible task and the editor concerned has evidently given up. The category is superfluous and presents the project with an unnecessarily difficult maintenance task. Deletion is not an option and an upmerge is needed. No Great Shaker (talk) 15:22, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Comedy Westerns are rare enough, yet many are notable enough to have their cat, but the vast majority of screen Westerns are dramas. Intothatdarkness 13:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. We should also do something about this editor's other category creations. I have been concerned for some time. Scorpions13256 (talk) 18:04, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. (Makes total sense, and the rationale is solid)  Butler Blog   (talk) 17:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Not every interection and permutation of genre needs a category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:South Vietnamese Vietnam War flying aces
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:South Vietnamese Vietnam War flying aces
 * Nominator's rationale: The universal defintion of a flying ace is when an aviator shoots down five or more aircraft in aerial combat. During the Vietnam War, there is no instance of South Vietnamese aviators scoring aerial victories against the North Vietnamese Air Force. The two pages in the category are of two mutinous South Vietnamese aviators who were involved in the 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing on 27 February 1962, which aimed to assassinate South Vietnam's President Ngô Đình Diệm. Their actions does not constitute the defintion of a flying ace. Toadboy123 (talk) 10:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Misuse of term. No Great Shaker (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Intothatdarkness 13:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 08:11, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Roman roads in Naples
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Roman roads in Naples to Category:Roman roads in Italy, Category:History of Naples and Category:Streets in Naples
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. No Great Shaker (talk) 21:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now with no objections to recreating if it ever grows to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now per nom and SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 08:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Merge we don't need a category for one article, that is way to small. Catfurball (talk) 18:31, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


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