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Category:Tesla (band) members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tesla (band) members
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy deletion declined on account of supposedly being populated. The trouble is, all the links in this category have been redirected to the band article, so in fact this category doesn't contain a single article. Richard3120 (talk) 11:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Support. These are categories for articles, not redirects.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that the above comment in support is from the category's creator. Richard3120 (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoops, should have noted that. Sorry about that.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:53, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I don't know if having a category only contain redirects is a valid reason for deletion but plenty of redirects are categorized and appear in categories though it is usually the exception rather than the rule. I know when I look at music & musical artist categories, many contain redirects. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * you're right, categories often do contain redirects in among the articles. But when everything is a redirect, I question the point of having a category. I mean, you won't even bring this category up unless you search for it manually knowing its name, so it doesn't seem useful for the average reader because they won't know it exists if they just casually browse the band's related articles. Richard3120 (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's not that they are just redirects but they all redirect to the same article. And for band member categories, it specifically states that a "musicians by band" category shouldn't be created even if only one member has an article. There are none here. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 04:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Away with all that bloody redirects. --Just N. (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Cao Cao and immediate family

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  13:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cao Cao and immediate family to Category:Family of Cao Cao
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to the standard nomenclature of family categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Aza24 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Cao Cao and associates

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) &#8213; Qwerfjkl  talk  14:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cao Cao and associates to Category:Cao Cao
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, this is just a standard eponymous category. Move (most of) the biographies to the parent category per WP:OCASSOC but keep the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:47, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose,, I'm not sure that's exactly what this is. See Category:Han dynasty people related to the Three Kingdoms, this should probably be bundled nom is desired. And frankly, I think "and associates" is clearer then having just the name, though it's not immediately clear what the distinction between this one and Category:Officials under Cao Cao is. Aza24 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Some of Cao Cao's associates were not officials (as in governing in central or regional governmental entities) - some are military only, and some were simply civilians. --Nlu (talk) 03:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose for clarity reasons. --Nlu (talk) 03:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose for clarity reasons and per Aza24. --Just N. (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


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Male journalists
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 24%23Male journalists

Lightly populated LDS Church temple categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Temples (LDS Church) in Colombia to Category:Temples (LDS Church) in South America, Category:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Colombia, Category:Temples in Colombia
 * Propose merging Category:Temples (LDS Church) in Ecuador to Category:Temples (LDS Church) in South America, Category:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Ecuador, Category:Temples in Ecuador
 * Propose merging Category:Temples (LDS Church) in South Africa to Category:Temples (LDS Church) in Africa, Category:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in South Africa, Category:Temples in South Africa
 * Nominator's rationale: Each of these contains two articles. Presently, temples are reasonably rare things in the LDS Church, so there is no prospect of populating these any time soon. I suggest upmerging. (We could probably also upmerge to Category:Religious buildings and structures in Ecuador.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:05, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Also @Good Ol’factory, please note that if the categories are upmerged, then the target cats should not include Category:Temples in Colombia etc. Per WP:CAT, Templates are not articles, and thus do not belong in content categories. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge all per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:49, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. These mergers would just make it harder for editors to find the templ at es, and by requiring multiple categories for each template, they increase the maintenance burden.
 * this is about temples (places of worship), not templates. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:51, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Duh @me. Thanks, Marcocapelle. I need coffee. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge all per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


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