Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 2



Nantucket

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: these two categories into Category:Nantucket (or Category:Nantucket, Massachusetts). The two categories are based on the same topic of Nantucket. The island of Nantucket, Nantucket County, Massachusetts, and Nantucket (town), Massachusetts are all the same. The categories should reflect this. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Nantucket County, Massachusetts‎ to Category:Buildings and structures in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Education in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Education in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Geography of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Geography of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:History of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:History of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Tourist attractions in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Tourist attractions in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Transportation in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Transportation in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Historic districts in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Historic districts in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Hospitals in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Hospitals in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Houses in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Houses in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Museums in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Museums in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Schools in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Schools in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Transportation buildings and structures in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Transportation buildings and structures in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Airports in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Airports in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Lighthouses in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Lighthouses in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Landforms of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Landforms of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Bodies of water of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Bodies of water of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Islands of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Islands of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Populated places in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Populated places in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Villages in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Villages in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Populated coastal places in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Populated coastal places in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Protected areas of Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Protected areas of Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:National Register of Historic Places in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:National Register of Historic Places in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Census-designated places in Nantucket County, Massachusetts to Category:Census-designated places in Nantucket, Massachusetts
 * Support per WP:OVERLAPCAT. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If merged, it should become Category:Nantucket, Massachusetts, adding the state name is standard. Note there are also separate categories for buildings and structures. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment:I've cleaned up the listing added the subpages to this listing as well. Note that some of these categories may need to be combined per WP:OVERCAT as there is just one or very few articles in the category. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * could you also tag the category pages of the categories that you added to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the reminder. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Business executives of the Dutch West India Company
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Ministers-President of communities and regions of Belgium

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming to
 * Propose renaming to
 * Propose renaming to
 * Nominator's rationake: fixing the plural, as in wikt:minister-president and e.g. . Place Clichy (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom; I don't think that this would even have to go through CfD as it's a mere spelling error. &horbar;Jochem van Hees (talk) 23:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Amsterdam artists

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Amsterdam artists to Category:Artists from Amsterdam
 * Nominator's rationale: Not very clear how this is supposed to differ from the usual "Artists from ..." pattern. Rathfelder (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Possibly the category was created due to a too narrow interpretation of the adjective from. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country to Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities
 * Nominator's rationale: This category would be more useful if moved up one notch and made a non-diffusing child of rather than a container category. Not all categories in  have a female subcategory. It should be allowed to include individual women holder of a such office in countries that do not have a national gendered sub-category. WP:FINALRUNG seems to apply: if Foo has only had one woman governor in its history, she should be placed in Governors of Foo and Women governors categories, rather than a new Women governors of Foo. Place Clichy (talk) 13:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

That turns this discussion into a merge proposal. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It might be helpful to create Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities as a parent category, but renaming this category as proposed would require its removal from Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities by country, which would impede navigation. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:59, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note I have created Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities, as a parent cat to Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country, and am working on populating both.
 * Withdrawn. As a new non-container category was created in the course of this discussion, I think the issue is fixed. Place Clichy (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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Female premiers and first ministers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both into the new Category:Women heads of government of non-sovereign entities. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging to
 * Propose merging to
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME. The titles of premier, first minister or chief minister are used for many sub-national entities (such as states and provinces and devolved authorities) that have a dual system of leadership with a distinct head of government. The category for female holders of these positions should be defined by this function of head of government, as for the parent non-gendered . Also note  by country‎  for women leaders of states and provinces where there is no separate head of government role. I have the feeling that women is preferred to female for political categories in recent discussions. Place Clichy (talk) 13:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge both per nom. Obvious duplication. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge both per nom. Makes sense. This is Paul (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Question, isn't this a renaming proposal instead of a merge proposal? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It could be phrased as rename one and merge the other ... but the effect would be the same. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought of wording it as Merging A with B into C, but I found a two-line presentation just as clear. I'd say the bigger issue here is the overlap between the two, but that someone felt the need to create the second category shows imho that the scope of the first category should be based on the function rather than the title. The merge and renaming are therefore intimately linked.
 * Is there a technical issue such as post-closure actions for which it would be preferable in this case to use renaming instead of merging? In this case, this should probably be made clear in the guidelines, and maybe the CfD templates. A+B=C merger is a probable occurrence enough. Place Clichy (talk) 07:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * @Place Clichy, merge and rename are handled by the bots with the same instruction "Cat:A to Cat:B". So there is no practical difference.
 * However, the bot can't handle multiple request on the same line, so "Cat:A + Cat:B to Cat:C" won't work.
 * To help the closing admin, it's nice to keep the nomination's formatting as close as possible to the syntax used at WP:CFDW. That used to mean listing each cat as , not  .  I dunno if that still applies since the new bot started work. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:10, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose The target should be something like Category:Women heads of government of sub-national polities. This can be a container for a variety of offices, whose precise titles will vary.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * shouldn't his be addressed instead at the parent Category:Heads of government of non-sovereign entities ? I do not really think that gender should be what makes the difference between non-sovereign entities and sub-national polities. Until (or unless) the parent is renamed along your proposal, the sub-category for women should use the same terms. Place Clichy (talk) 08:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


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Categories related to World Para Athletics European Championships

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Events at the IPC Athletics European Championships to Category:Events at the World Para Athletics European Championships
 * Propose renaming Category:Club throw at the IPC Athletics European Championships to Category:Club throw at the World Para Athletics European Championships
 * Nominator's rationale: As of 2018, this is the name of the competition and which is what we should use for the category structure going forwards. Simeon (talk) 08:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Support as in line with new competition name. SFB 00:38, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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Aboriginal gods and goddesses

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Aboriginal goddesses to Category:Australian Aboriginal goddesses
 * Propose renaming Category:Aboriginal gods to Category:Australian Aboriginal gods
 * Nominator's rationale: "Aboriginal" by itself can be a reference to any indigenous group. These are gods and goddesses of the Australian Aboriginal people. The parent categories are and . Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per C2C. –Laundry<b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename to match article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Strict nature reserves of Portugal
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Strict nature reserves of Portugal to Category:Nature reserves in Portugal
 * Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure what a "strict" nature reserve is. The word "strict" does not appear in the article Protected areas of Portugal. I suggest upmerging to the parent category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now Maybe there's some underlying classification here that didn't make it over from Portuguese language sources but it has no meaning with the current contents. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Taoists
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional taoists
 * Nominator's rationale: Categories for fictional people by religion have been deleted multiple times: see here and here. This particular category has not been deleted before. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:56, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. In the case of the one article listed there the relevant point is that he's a daoshi and lives with a sect, but moving to Category:Fictional daoshi seems pointless with only one article and he can just be listed under Category:Fictional monks. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 15:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I have added Category:Fictional monks to Randeng Daoren. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Non-nationals associated with the Pitcairn Islands
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (the subcat is already in Category:Pitcairn Islands politicians) (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Non-nationals associated with the Pitcairn Islands
 * Propose Reparenting Category:Governors of Pitcairn directly under Category:Pitcairn Islands people
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCASSOC and WP:PERFCAT)
 * Charles Fremantle is in this category because he stopped by in 1833 and tried to resolve a dispute, no idea why Dea Birkett is listed, Luis Marden went there to take pictures for National Goegraphic, Thomas Staines visited in 1814, no idea why Irving Johnson is listed, and Harry L. Shapiro wrote a book about the H.M.S. Bounty. (I added Henry Evans Maude and Charles Blackie to the parent category because they were temporary residents and an official, respectively.) This is classic WP:OCASSOC. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm. Yeah - that would make some sense. There is another problem with the first category as it stands, as technically Pitcairn isn't a "nation", so what does "non-national" mean in that context? Grutness... wha?   01:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it's referring to people without right of abode status in the Pitcairn Islands. This is somewhat similar to a nationality (though more like a permanent residency status). Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That may be the intent, but surely many of the people in the category pre-dated any such law. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspect Dea Birkett is in the category because of this. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete and reparent Category:Governors of Pitcairn per nom. As applied in practice it doesn't look terribly defining. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Support proposal. People who have written about Pitcairn Islands or H.M.S. Bounty might be a subcat to have under Category:Pitcairn Islands.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:44, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete/reparent per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 10:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Organisations associated with the Bengal Renaissance
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (and reparent Category:Vangiya Sahitya Parishad‎ as proposed). Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Organisations associated with the Bengal Renaissance
 * Propose Selectively Reparenting Category:Vangiya Sahitya Parishad‎ directly under Category:Bengal Renaissance
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCASSOC) and maybe WP:OR
 * The association with these organisations must be pretty slight: not a single article in this category even mentions the Bengal Renaissance in the text. (4 of the articles do list have Template:Bengal Renaissance, but the reason for including that template is equally unclear.) The child category has content on this topic though and should be kept in the tree. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Background We previously deleted Category:People associated with the Bengal Renaissance by consensus right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, a few of them might fit Category:Brahmoist organizations, but probably not enough, and other than that they are just organizations established in the 19th century by Bengali people. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


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