Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 30



Category:Acting Presidents of Myanmar

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Myanmar to Category:Acting presidents of Myanmar
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Colombia to Category:Acting presidents of Colombia
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of New Granada to Category:Acting presidents of New Granada
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Ghana to Category:Acting presidents of Ghana
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of India to Category:Acting presidents of India
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Moldova to Category:Acting presidents of Moldova
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Pakistan to Category:Acting presidents of Pakistan
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Romania to Category:Acting presidents of Romania
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of Russia to Category:Acting presidents of Russia
 * Propose renaming Category:Acting Presidents of South Korea to Category:Acting presidents of South Korea
 * Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom: MOS consistency, just like the “Vice Presidents of the United States (etc.)” nom below. sbb (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:10, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:People who died in Auschwitz concentration camp

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People who died in Auschwitz concentration camp to Category:People murdered in Auschwitz concentration camp
 * Nominator's rationale: The verb "died" suggests it just sort of happened, rather than it being intentional. "Murdered" is more accurate because the Holocaust was a giant program of premedidated, state-sponsored, industrialized murder. Whether directly with bullets, or indirectly with starvation and disease, the deaths in Auschwitz were deliberate and forseeable, and are considered premeditated murder. The category name should reflect this. Ich (talk) 16:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose, this proposal will create an inconsistency with the rest of the tree of Category:People who died in Nazi concentration camps. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I would absolutely support renaming that tree too. The category name, on its face, would encompass a commandant who died of a heart attack at his desk. I surmise that is not the intent of the category.-Ich (talk) 14:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I would not oppose (i.e. I would be neutral) if the whole tree would be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Marcocapelle, and also because "murdered" suggests a dynamic action, rather than leaving people to die of disease or malnutrition by neglect - which was a cause of death for a considerable proportion of those dying in concentration camps. Grutness... wha?   00:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Someone who knowingly locks a human in a room for a week without food or water, in a manner that foreseeably resulted in death, still has committed murder and is prosecuted accordingly. The camps were designed with the deliberate intent of killing their inmates through labor, starvation and disease, as well as with gas, guns, or putting them through psychological torture to the point where they are driven to suicide by throwing themselves against the electric fence. The malice aforethought distinguishes it from manslaughter.-Ich (talk) 14:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per all the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Murder is variously defined by lgal systems around the world. In this case, which legal system defined these deaths as murders? If none, we are entering OR territory. Dimadick (talk) 13:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The German government treats the deaths at Auschwitz and other concentration camps as murder. It has charged former camp personnel with murder and accessory to murder. For example, John Demjanjuk, who was convicted with accessory to 28,000 murders at Treblinka, and Oskar Gröning was convicted as an accessory to the murder of 300,000 people at Auschwitz.-Ich (talk) 14:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment - as a parent category is Category:People murdered in Poland, these people are already categorised as 'murdered'. Oculi (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose, refering also to Oculi' comment. --Just N. (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- The target would be a valid category, but deaths from overwork and starvation would be manslaughter, not murder. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per Ich's well defined reasoning as to why these deaths are defined as murders.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Wii and Wii U-only games

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wii and wii u-only games
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OC, fairly pointless. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Pointless intersection of two game systems' libraries - readers looking for this can look at the individual Wii and Wii U categories.--AlexandraIDV 08:49, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Vice Presidents of the United States (and all related categories)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Vice Presidents of the United States by party to Category:Vice presidents of the United States by party
 * Propose renaming Category:Democratic Party Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Democratic Party vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Democratic-Republican Party Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Democratic-Republican Party vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Republican Party Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Republican Party vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Whig Party Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Whig Party vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Vice Presidency of the United States to Category:Vice presidency of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Children of Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Children of vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Fathers of Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Fathers of vice presidents of the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Mothers of Vice Presidents of the United States to Category:Mothers of vice presidents of the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Conforming categories to Wikipedia's job title rules (for example, see List of vice presidents of the United States and List of efforts to impeach vice presidents of the United States). Woko Sapien (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: If we can all agree on this proposal, then it'd make sense to me to also apply it to all the subcategories under Category:Vice presidents by country. --Woko Sapien (talk) 15:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom; the MOS applies here.-Ich (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support; ditto, MOS consistency sbb (talk) 20:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support all except the family categories, which should be deleted as trivial.--User:Namiba 13:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:15, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Played in the 2015 6 Nations

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting played in the 2015 6 nations
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is poorly titled for a start, and it only seems to include Scottish players. There are no other such categories for other seasons of the Six Nations Championship, nor should there be. It's not like the Rugby World Cup or a Lions tour, it happens every year. – PeeJay 13:40, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. If consensus is (bewilderingly) to keep, rename to . Grutness... wha?   00:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-defining international match(es), unlike World Cup starts in rugby, cricket, football, etc.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:19, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Unnecessary category, there's no need to categorise to a tournament that's played every year. A category of Six Nations Championship players is fine but not one for each individual tournament. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:08, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I'd struggle even with a category for the Six Nations as a whole, given that most Northern Hemisphere international players will have played in the tournament at some point. – PeeJay 10:58, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-defining, unncessary category. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:15, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:İstanbul-class destroyers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (the category has already been emptied) (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting i̇stanbul-class destroyers
 * Nominator's rationale: This class of ship didn't really exist. These were just 5–6 Fletcher-class destroyers transferred to the Turkish Navy. Every ship that was listed in this class was just a redirect to the US Fletcher-class ship, and the eponymous page İstanbul-class destroyer was just a redirect to Fletcher-class destroyer, which doesn't mention a "İstanbul" class at all. sbb (talk) 08:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I have to trust that's okay with the facts. --Just N. (talk) 15:19, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Slogan lists
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Slogan lists to Category:Lists of slogans
 * Nominator's rationale: Lists of slogans better describes the members -- they are in fact all lists of slogans. It is consistent with the name of the article Lists of slogans as well as the usual naming conventions within Category:Lists. BenKuykendall (talk) 06:19, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Support To better reflect the scope of the category. Dimadick (talk) 13:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Companions of the Star of Melanesia
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Companions of the Star of Melanesia
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD and WP:OVERLAPCAT)
 * We don't have a main article on the Star of Melanesia but Papua New Guinea honours system described it as as a Long Service Medal for 15 years of service. It must also be issued a diplomatic souvenir because two British royals and the Prime Minister of Fiji also received it. The 4 articles with people defined by Papua New Guinea (1, 2, 3, 4) are evenly split between those that mention the award in passing and those that don't mention it at all. I expanded the exisint list so all the category contents are now listified right here for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Nansen medal for Outstanding Research
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Nansen medal for Outstanding Research
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD and WP:OVERLAPCAT)
 * The Fridtjof Nansen Prize for Outstanding Research is a Norwegian research award founded in 1896. It's well respected but not especially defining to recipients who are already very well respected so there's no Wikipedia category. Starting in 2003, all Fridtjof Nansen Prize are automatically awarded a "Nansen Medal for Outstanding Research" as part of the same award. (All living prior winners were also retroactively given the medal.) There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article although we may eventually want to merge the articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


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