Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 9



Category:Trials in Great Britain

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Trials in the Kingdom of Great Britain. Re: the deletion issue that was raised, if anyone would like to nominate the category for deletion (or dispersion to  and ), feel free to do so. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:12, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Trials in Great Britain to Category:Trials in Great Britain (1707-1801)
 * Nominator's rationale: This category does not need to hold the subcategories Category:Trials in England and Category:Trials in Scotland, because it is an unnecessary level below Category:Trials in the United Kingdom. If it is to be used, it should instead be used to categorize all trials within Great Britain before its union with Ireland (1707-1801). — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 22:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Alt rename to Category:Trials in the Kingdom of Great Britain, to align with article Kingdom of Great Britain and parent Category:Kingdom of Great Britain. The proposed name by nom is still better than the current name. Also purge the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * rename to Category:Trials in the Kingdom of Great Britain. Sufficient disambiguation. Dimadick (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support alt Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alt rename to Category:Trials in the Kingdom of Great Britain, per Marcocapelle. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- Potentially delete -- Great Britain is not and never has been a single jurisdiction. England and Wales was one jurisdiction; Scotland another.  The whole policy of WP in treating England/GB/UK as separate polities is fundamentally flawed.  The English Parliament did not cease in 1707: it continued, as it always had, except that it had admitted Scottish members; similarly on Irish Union in 1801.  In the same way the departure of the Republic of Ireland in c.1921 did not create a new country.  Likewise, the United States did not become a new country each time a new state joined the union.  The last sentence of the headnote is almost certainly wrong.  Criminal proceedings are in the name of the king, but do not require any action by him.  Justiciary subcat is Scottish.  The treason cases are English.  The only case that is arguably a GB case is Warren Hastings, which was an impeachment in the House of Lords, though this would have been conducted according to English law.  There was a unity of the Crown from 1603, the only change in 1707 was in the title of Queen Anne.  The concept of king of GB goes back to James VI & I.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose -- Potentially delete per Peterkingiron. --Just N. (talk) 17:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply By that logic, then Category:Trials in the United Kingdom ought to be deleted also. It is not true to say that a few more constituencies were added to the Parliament of England to cater for additions from Scotland & Ireland. After the Treaty of Union in 1707, Acts of Parliament passed in the Parliament of England and the Parliament of Scotland created a new Kingdom of Great Britain and dissolved both parliaments, replacing them with a new Parliament of Great Britain based in the former home of the English parliament. So only the meeting place was the same. That two legal traditions exist in the same state is not to say that trials - under either tradition - do not take place in that state. There were trials in Scotland. There were trials in England. And from 1707-1801 there were trials in the newly minted state of the Kingdom of Great Britain. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:43, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Possibly there is no true or false in this discussion and is it just a case of two oppositie POVs. Regardless, Wikipedia has a history of categorizing by Kingdom of Great Britain and we should keep consistency with that. If anyone would like to nominate the whole tree of Category:Kingdom of Great Britain, just go ahead, but while the tree still exists we should not randomly create holes in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Taxa named by Kiavash Golzarianpour

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting taxa named by kiavash golzarianpour


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: author is redlinked and category is only populated by two articles (I tried and failed to find more). They don't appear to have described many other species. Limited potential for growth. For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion here. Enwebb (talk) 22:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete A single editor creating many underpopulated categories does not fit the WP:SMALLCAT exception as "part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". - RevelationDirect (talk) 09:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete perhaps there would be a way for there to be a list of taxa by those who named them, including Golzarianpour, but this category fails WP:SMALLCAT. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Taxa named by Roberta Barbieri

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting taxa named by roberta barbieri


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: author is redlinked and category is only populated by two articles (I tried and failed to find more). She doesn't appear to have described many other species. Limited potential for growth. For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion here. Enwebb (talk) 22:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete A single editor creating many underpopulated categories does not fit the WP:SMALLCAT exception as "part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". - RevelationDirect (talk) 09:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete perhaps there would be a way for there to be a list of taxa by those who named them, including Barbieri, but this category fails WP:SMALLCAT. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Taxa named by Asghar Abdoli

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting taxa named by asghar abdoli


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: author is redlinked and category is only populated by one article. He doesn't appear to have described many other species. Limited potential for growth. For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion here. Enwebb (talk) 21:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete A single editor creating many underpopulated categories does not fit the WP:SMALLCAT exception as "part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". - RevelationDirect (talk) 09:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete perhaps there would be a way for there to be a list of taxa by those who named them, including Abdoli, but this category fails WP:SMALLCAT. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:25, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Armenian-controlled territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting armenian-controlled territories surrounding nagorno-karabakh


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, Armenian control was just a temporary status, so we should not categorize by it. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 16:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not every article necessitates a category. Sufficient categories exist to record the tragic and desultory history of events in that corner of the world. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:47, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I would have asked for a list but we have one in the main article. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Orissa before 2011

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 * The result of the discussion was: option A rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming either:
 * Option A
 * REDIRECT Category:1957 establishments in Odisha to Category:1957 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1958 establishments in Odisha to Category:1958 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1987 establishments in Odisha to Category:1987 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1997 establishments in Odisha to Category:1997 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1998 establishments in Odisha to Category:1998 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1999 establishments in Odisha to Category:1999 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2005 establishments in Odisha to Category:2005 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2006 establishments in Odisha to Category:2006 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2007 establishments in Odisha to Category:2007 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2008 establishments in Odisha to Category:2008 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2009 establishments in Odisha to Category:2009 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2010 establishments in Odisha to Category:2010 establishments in Orissa
 * Parents will be speedily renamed accordingly under WP:C2E/C2C.
 * Categories created after this nomination, and parents, added 16 March by BHG:
 * REDIRECT Category:1956 establishments in Odisha to Category:1956 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1960 establishments in Odisha to Category:1960 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1961 establishments in Odisha to Category:1961 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1962 establishments in Odisha to Category:1962 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1966 establishments in Odisha to Category:1966 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1967 establishments in Odisha to Category:1967 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1969 establishments in Odisha to Category:1969 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1972 establishments in Odisha to Category:1972 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1973 establishments in Odisha to Category:1973 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1974 establishments in Odisha to Category:1974 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1975 establishments in Odisha to Category:1975 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1976 establishments in Odisha to Category:1976 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1979 establishments in Odisha to Category:1979 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1981 establishments in Odisha to Category:1981 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1992 establishments in Odisha to Category:1992 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1994 establishments in Odisha to Category:1994 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1996 establishments in Odisha to Category:1996 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2001 establishments in Odisha to Category:2001 establishments in Orissa (over redirect)
 * REDIRECT Category:2002 establishments in Odisha to Category:2002 establishments in Orissa (over redirect)
 * REDIRECT Category:2003 establishments in Odisha to Category:2003 establishments in Orissa (over redirect)
 * REDIRECT Category:2004 establishments in Odisha to Category:2004 establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1950s establishments in Odisha to Category:1950s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1960s establishments in Odisha to Category:1960s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1970s establishments in Odisha to Category:1970s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1980s establishments in Odisha to Category:1980s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:1990s establishments in Odisha to Category:1990s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:2000s establishments in Odisha to Category:2000s establishments in Orissa
 * REDIRECT Category:20th-century establishments in Odisha to Category:20th-century establishments in Orissa (over redirect)


 * or Option B:
 * REDIRECTCategory:20th century in Orissa to Category:20th century in Odisha (over redirect)
 * REDIRECT Category:1930s in Orissa to Category:1930s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1940s in Orissa to Category:1940s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1950s in Orissa to Category:1950s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1960s in Orissa to Category:1960s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1970s in Orissa to Category:1970s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1980s in Orissa to Category:1980s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:1990s in Orissa to Category:1990s in Odisha " "
 * REDIRECT Category:2000s in Orissa to Category:2000s in Odisha " "


 * Nominator's rationale: Odisha, a state in India, was named Orissa until 2011. The parent chronology categories (option B) therefore use the name Orissa before that year. However, User:Johnpacklambert thinks we should use Odisha for all categories, and has created the establishments-by-year categories (option A). He opposes speedy renaming to match, hence this full nomination is required. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose all the Odisha to Orissa proposals. I think we should treat the name in unity. Odisha is a better reflection of long-standing local pronunciation standards and I do not think we should cause confusion by introducing the old spelling needlessly.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: I moved the above comment from the Speedy page where it was apparently placed in anticipation of the Option A nominations, during a discussion on my user page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * For the record, the discussion on FL's talk is at User talk:Fayenatic london (permalink) . JPL's conduct there is problematic. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Option A. Now that Navseasoncats elegantly handles redirects, there is no convenience advantage to using anachronistic names.  Just create category redirects for all cases, and the result is seamless navigaton with no anachronism. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Option A. I also think that articles such as 1952 Orissa Legislative Assembly election should use Orissa in the text. Oculi (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As the articles are, apparently, directly affected by this discussion, it might make sense to start an RFC. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That was merely an observation: I am not suggesting that cfd should involve itself in the renaming of text within articles. Oculi (talk) 16:56, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * True. What I meant to say is an RFC may result in using either Odisha or Orissa throughout, i.e. both in the text of articles and in the article titles and in the category names. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Despite having left your own lazy errors unfixed for four days, on 9 March you hypocritically lashed out at FL for civilly pointing out this naming problem. You wrote of attacks by lazy editors who do nothing but criticize those of us who actually put in the work. In summary, you have been making lots of errors, but have repeatedly responded with hostility to thoroughly civil comments about them. You have accused others of being lazy, even tho you are too lazy to fix your own errors. Then then you claim to be underappreciated ... but you don't seem to understand why. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 18:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename to Orissa. I have been convinced that this is the best way to reflect the situation at the time. I still feel that many people are not appreciating the huge amount of work and close precision that is needed to split up this India establishment categories. I had to fill two sides of a paper with the exact creation date for each and every Indian state, and to mark which state that state was created from, to even begin to undertake this project.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @John Pack Lambert: your comments about the huge amount of work are unpersuasive, because a) you are not the only person doing that work; b) it's not that complex; c) you set low standards. You created a significant number of inadequately parented categories: some had only one parent. Even when this was pointed out, and your attention was drawn to EstcatIndiastate, you didn't go back to fix the mangled categories you had created.  I fixed a bunch of them last night, which was six days after your attention was drawn to the problem on 5 March.
 * Option A -- We have had this discussion many times over renamed countries e.g. Belgian Congo/Zaire/DRC. The solution is to avoid anachronism, by using the English spelling applicable at the time.  However, since Orissa and Odisha are the same state, parents should not be split.  According Category:21st century in Odisha should be the parent to Category:2000s in Orissa.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Option A. --Just N. (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment More categories have been created that use Odisha pre-2011 since this discussion was started. Although we now have both Category:2001 establishments in Odisha and Category:2001 establishments in Orissa.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * John Pack Lambert: I have resolved the duplication, and also added to this nomination all the categs created since the nom was made. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support option A - using Odisha prior to the name-change is ahistorical, problematic if we would apply same standard to Chennai, Mumbai, etc.. --Soman (talk) 12:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Deaths from cardiovascular disease

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete as too routine a cause of death to be defining.  BD2412  T 04:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * deaths from cardiovascular disease
 * category
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING cause of death. Recreation of Category:Cardiovascular disease deaths, which was deleted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 20.  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep, the last CFD suggested that it be deleted due to the need to specify which exact type disease was the cause of death, but that ignores the fact that many people are only said to have passed due to “heart disease”, and it also deletes a perfectly valid WP:CONTAINER category for the other heart diseases. Category:Deaths from cardiomyopathy was not spec the subject of the CFD —Prisencolin (talk) 19:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The subcat has since been tagged by another editor. (I would have shared your concern about orphaning a subcat.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as a too common and trivial cause of death. It is not something that biographies specifically elaborate on, nor is it worth elaborating on. (That applies to many diseases as a cause of death, by the way.) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Too common to be defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - like most causes of death it's not defining. And for most people these days there are multiple causes of death. Rathfelder (talk) 00:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per all the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Causes of death are defining, and we should not exclude entire groups of medical causes. Dimadick (talk) 20:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Causes of death are defining. --Just N. (talk) 17:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:COVID-19 vaccination programmes

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:COVID-19 vaccination programmes to Category:Deployment of COVID-19 vaccines by country (consistency with the main article: Deployment of COVID-19 vaccines)
 * Nominator's rationale: Inaccurate name. These are not all vaccination programmes. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 15:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Support I set up the original category. At the time there were not many articles in it. Now that editors have made articles, it is apparent that the trend is to make articles for deployment by country, and not by the name of individual vaccination programs.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  15:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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People of Hainanese descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:People of Hainanese descent
 * Propose deleting Category:Hong Kong people of Hainanese descent‎
 * Propose merging Category:Malaysian people of Hainanese descent to Category:Malaysian people of Chinese descent
 * Propose merging Category:Singaporean people of Hainanese descent to Category:Singaporean people of Chinese descent
 * Propose merging Category:Thai people of Hainanese descent‎ to Category:Thai people of Chinese descent
 * Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, we do not categorize people by the region or city where their ancestors have been living, like in this case the province Hainan, per WP:COPHERITAGE. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete/merge per nom. These sub-national descent categories are a bad idea and all need to be removed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to give a reason beyond WP:DONTLIKEIT please.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep  valid ethnic construction found in diaspora communities. The WP:COP-HERITAGE guideline appears to have been only recently added without any sort of broader community consensus.—Prisencolin (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all "descent" categories as per WP:OCEGRS, WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, WP:TRIVIALCAT, and WP:V, per my usual objections User:Carlossuarez46/Descent categories. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Read this article from the Singapore government encyclopedia about the Hainanese community please. This cross categorization is neither trivial nor subjective.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 16:56, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Chilean marxists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete as duplicate of . Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting category


 * Nominator's rationale: This seems to be a total duplicate category of this with a lowercase "M". Chillabit (talk) 04:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 19:20, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, this doesn't need to be in the main CFD discussion.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Daniel Barenboim

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting daniel barenboim


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. A single related article doesn't warrant an eponymous category. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 03:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The two articles are already interlinked directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * please comment again now that another editor has added two more articles (about his wives) to the category, making four pages. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding relatives does not add any justification for the need for this category. Thanks. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:14, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with Starcheers, the two extra articles do not provide any extra information about Daniel Barenboim. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Kentucky colonels

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. G4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_March_22#Category:Kentucky_colonels  Fences  &amp;  Windows  01:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kentucky colonels


 * Nominator's rationale: Not entirely sure what is happening here, but this appears to be a category for people given an honorary title and thus non-defining. User:Namiba 02:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete Category:Kentucky colonels The category IS NOT WP:OCAWARD and NOT non-defining. Kentucky colonelcy has its roots in 1775 and includes over 20 American presidents and more than 1,000 celebrities. It is more than an award or honorific title, it is a civil status under common law and is awarded with letters patent. See my note at Category talk:Kentucky colonels. The Kentucky Colonel was responsible for the secession of the state from Virginia, founding the state as the 15th, as well as writing the foundational doctrine document the "Kentucke Magna Charta" which was incorporated in the United States Constitution and the constitutions of several other US States. "COLONELCY" in America is very significant inasmuch as it is/was and remains the "highest honorific title" that can be bestowed to a person who is not a Lord, Count, Baron or Duke, it is also the same title that took away the divine right of kings in America, likewise the Kentucky Colonel certificate today is awarded today to many of these same people and has the same rights and duties as the original title in common law. An alternative to simple categorization of (contemporary and historical) colonels and award recipients together will be to introduce a List of original Kentucky colonels article with citations, references and Wiki links. Problemsmith (talk) 09:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I read the talk page as you suggested. The problem was never that the category was too small since the award is given out widely; the problem was that it was only defining to Colonel Sanders. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There has been a list of recipients in the Kentucky Colonel article but it has been deleted after discussion on the talk page that the list did not serve any purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete Per WP:G4. We already deleted this award at this discussion: Categories for discussion/Log/2016 March 22. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not defining to the recipients, and whatever this is technically it functions like an award category and will lead to category clutter.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and exemplified by the "do not delete" argument; if 20 presidents have this award, and we didn't know it before being informed about it - it's obviously trivial. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a defining award-like title. It has also been deleted before by consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Caribbean Series players

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  also exists but was not included in this nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting caribbean series players


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:PERFCAT; this is a trial balloon for many of its sibling categories in the Category:Baseball players by competition. We recently got rid of a similar Super Bowl category (here) and a few other bicycle racing ones here and here. Ultimately, sportspeople play in numerous venues and events and our precedent is that this is not defining. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as well. Carlossuarez46 is correct to state that appearing in a certain event is non-defining for individual sportspeople.--User:Namiba 02:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment, we might as well adapt the text of WP:PERFCAT to further emphasize that it may apply to all sorts of professions. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. And that goes both ways: if there are acting jobs that are generally long-term careers, that could be defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There is an ongoing discussion about including sportspeople.--User:Namiba 15:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, not defined by a single performance. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per PERFCAT. Categorisation by team is appropriate, but not by competition.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:25, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and precedent. --Just N. (talk) 17:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Recipients of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Knights of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Cross of Honour of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)‎
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Commanders of the Order of the Crown (Württemberg)‎‎
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT)
 * When high ranking foreign leaders from visited the German Kingdom of Württemberg or vice versa, the Order of the Crown (Württemberg) is given out as souvenir. Alexander II of Russia, Ludwig III of Bavaria, George V, and Prince Charles of Prussia are not remotely defined by this award. (There are also a small percentage of local people like Prince August of Württemberg and William II of Württemberg but they are already well categorized under Category:Political office-holders in Württemberg, Category:House of Württemberg, etc.) There wasn't a list so I created a collapsible right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors and those nominations are listed right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Deleting/Listify - hardly a defining feature for any of these people, but a list - either free-standing or within the key article - would be useful. Grutness... wha?   00:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete over categorization by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of Hilal-e-Kashmir
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (At the close, the category had already been deleted via G7.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/"Listifying" Category:Recipients of Hilal-e-Kashmir
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SMALLCAT and likely WP:OCAWARD)
 * The Hilal-e-Kashmir is an award issued by Pakistani-administered section of the disputed Kashmir area. There is only 1 article in this category, Saif Ali Janjua, which could use some further editor attention. I can't really say the category contents are "listified" but that 1 biography is already linked in right here in the main article. For what's it's worth, that 1 article does mention the award in the lede but since the award and 1 recipient already link to each other, this category doesn't serve a navigational function and I can't find any other articles to add. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete overcategorization by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 16:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


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