Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 14



Category:Lutyens media

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lutyens media
 * Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate category. This is based on a highly biased term, used to delegitimize opponents of the Indian government. --Soman (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, just a pejorative adopted by the ruling party and used in an ad hoc manner against journalists for publishing reports which might be critical of the government. Reliable sources don't tend to describe specific news organisations as "lutyen's media", the creator's spamming it across articles is a product of original research, unlikely to have any potential for appropriate use. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 22:30, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Satellites by type
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 29%23Category:Satellites by type

Category:Bill Richardson

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bill richardson
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEPON and WP:SMALLCAT, this category includes Bill Richardson, Electoral history of Bill Richardson (which should be redirected) and 5 articles about elections in which he participated or was speculated to participate. Having never held public office outside of Governor of New Mexico and having been out of politics for a number of years, it is unlikely that more articles will be written directly involving Bill Richardson. User:Namiba 17:51, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete for Now Doesn't aid navigation with two legitimate articles but no objection if it ever gets up to 5+ (not counting the election articles not defined by him.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Fair use images of Disney Theme Park posters

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fair use images of Disney Theme Park posters to Category:Fair use images of Disney theme park attraction posters
 * Nominator's rationale: Two issues. The first is that "Disney Theme Park" should be "Disney theme park". The second is that the category says the posters are for "attractions", which should also be understood by the name of the category itself. Gonnym (talk) 17:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support as more convenient. desmay (talk) 16:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Fair use images of movie posters

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fair use images of movie posters to Category:Fair use images of film posters
 * Nominator's rationale: This is probably a C2D, but since it is used on this many files, it's probably safer to have it go through the normal process. The parent category is Category:Film posters, the article is at Film poster and all but one sub-category uses "film posters". Gonnym (talk) 17:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support is more convenient. desmay (talk) 16:51, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians interested in hyperlinks

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:24, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians interested in hyperlinks
 * Nominator's rationale: Single-user category populated by a series of userboxes that don't actually express an interest in editing articles related to hyperlinks. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:23, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Swiss women Marxists

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 * The result of the discussion was: double upmerge as discussed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:21, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting swiss women marxists
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a subcategory of "Swiss marxists" which contains the exact same contents, making this seem like an unnecessary disambiguation. Grnrchst (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I created the category as part of an unfinished (actually barely started) project of creating women Marxist categories to increase visibility of women within Marxism related pages. Here's the parent category for that project, which I clearly forgot to make the Swiss category part of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_Marxists I think that was a worthwhile project, but haven't had the time to pursue it so would have no objection to this page going. Will addd this parent category in case it is kept. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment if there's no defining intersection between being a woman and being a Marxist, then this would be WP:OCEGRS (t &#183; c)  buidhe  17:03, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Women Marxists per WP:EGRS. I am not certain whether women Marxists in general is a notable intersection, but Swiss women Marxists surely is not. The siblings should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with merging it to Category:Women Marxists, along with the others subcategories.--Grnrchst (talk) 08:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The full merge proposal is:
 * Propose merging Category:American women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:American Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Canadian women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Canadian Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Croatian women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Croatian Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:French women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:French Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Italian women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Italian Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Russian women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Russian Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Spanish women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Spanish Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Swiss women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Swiss marxists
 * Propose merging Category:Syrian women Marxists to Category:Women Marxists and Category:Syrian Marxists
 * I will tag these categories now. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:21, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, but merge also to Category:American Marxists etc. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:17, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You are right. I'm adding these as a second merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Disney Renaissance franchise
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 22%23Category:Disney Renaissance franchise

Category:Leaders of Tower Hamlets First

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting leaders of tower hamlets first
 * Nominator's rationale: Short-lived political group that only ever had one leader and is now dissolved. A similar case to Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_6. (PATH was a split from Tower Hamlets First.) Bondegezou (talk) 08:35, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete -- The one article relates to an elected mayor. It should be sufficient to put him in Category:Tower Hamlets councillors and Category:Directly elected mayors in London boroughs.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:23, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Tower Hamlets First councillors

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tower hamlets first councillors
 * Nominator's rationale: Short-lived political group, now dissolved. It had a number of councillors, but only one of whom was notable, Rabina Khan. Same rationale as Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_6, which had the same sole notable member in R Khan. This category does have a second member, Abjol Miah, but that's only a redirect. Bondegezou (talk) 08:31, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete -- The one article relates to an elected mayor. It should be sufficient to put him in Category:Tower Hamlets councillors and Category:Directly elected mayors in London boroughs.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:23, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Tower Hamlets Independent Group councillors

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tower hamlets independent group councillors
 * Nominator's rationale: Short-lived political group, now dissolved. It had a number of councillors, but only one of whom was notable. Same rationale as Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_6, which had the same 1 member. (Sorry, I should've nominated this at the same time!) Bondegezou (talk) 08:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete -- The one article relates to an elected mayor. It should be sufficient to put him in Category:Tower Hamlets councillors and Category:Directly elected mayors in London boroughs.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:24, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:US military ribbon symbolism

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Military ribbons of the United States. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting us military ribbon symbolism
 * Nominator's rationale: These are already categorized in Category:Military awards and decorations of the United States. Like most US military awards, they are displayed on ribbons but what makes these awards "ribbon symbolism" I don't understand. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:37, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep and Rename to Category:Military ribbons of the United States. Following the naming format of the parent category is certainly awkward and this topic needs a main article but it seems defining. This is a both a physical device, shown in the picture to the right, and a class of awards. (Some cleanup may be needed based on shared name and making sure there are no actual medals that just have a corresponding medal ribbon.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:15, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure there aren't medals that US military personnel don't wear as ribbons like in the example. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  14:18, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think you're absolutely right that all of the medals have a corresponding physical ribbon depending on the uniform being worn, which is not defining. But the opposite is not true as not all ribbons have medals: many awards like Basic Training Honor Graduate Ribbon, Navy Ceremonial Duty Ribbon and Drill Instructor Ribbon are only ribbons. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:13, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support proposed rename (t &#183; c)  buidhe  16:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:People associated with the Matterhorn

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:17, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People associated with the Matterhorn to Category:Summiters of the Matterhorn
 * Propose renaming Category:People associated with the Eiger to Category:Summiters of the Eiger
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and purge per WP:OCASSOC. Purge people who did not reach the summit. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NONDEF. Our article on Matterhorn states: "up to 150 climbers attempt the Matterhorn each day during summer" (t &#183; c)  buidhe  09:32, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Both Per WP:PERFCAT. Listing every mountain climbed by mountain climbers like Sergey Kofanov will just lead to category clutter. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Nota Bene: the category was supposed to have people associated with the climbing history (i.e. at least mentioned in one of the Matterhorn related pages, therefore it includes only a *very limited number* of people), not just summiters. Zach (Talk) 12:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And I removed Sergey Kofanov from both categories, as there are no indications of any notable ascent. Zach (Talk) 12:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * (as nominator) I do not oppose deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Cimbalomists by nationality and 1 subcategory

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. The subcategory was not tagged yet. I have done that now. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Category:Cimbalomists by nationality
 * Category:Canadian cimbalomists
 * Nominator's rationale: This parent category Cimbalomists by nationality only contains one subcategory which itself only contains one article of a relatively unknown artist. As well, cimbalomist is an awkward term for what is more commonly called cimbalist or simply cimbalom player. Would recommend simply deleting both categories here as they are not really in use (most cimbalom players in the world are from Romania and Hungary and neither country even has its own category).--Dan Carkner (talk) 04:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. But I'd expect to make sure that a category for cimbalom players stays reserved. Unclear if cimbalist or cimbalom player would be preferable. --Just N. (talk) 22:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Precious Brilliant Golden Grain
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the order of the precious brilliant golden grain
 * Nominator's rationale: Nondefining, discontinued and rather obscure Republic of China award. It does not have an article or category on zhwiki. None of the articles in the category more than mention the award. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:03, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Obscure general purpose award. I already listified the recpients in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Annulled Recipients of the Royal Victorian Chain
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (Something like Category:Annulled recipients of British honours before 1945 could be created, but I'm not confident that it would survive CFD.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting annulled recipients of the royal victorian chain
 * royal victorian chain
 * Nominator's rationale: Since the award recipients category was [|deleted], I suggest deleting this as well. Revokation does not seem significant to any of the category members who are all royalty so I recommend against an upmerge. Category:Royal Victorian Chain should also be deleted as well; without this subcat it would only have two articles (the award and list of recipients), per WP:SMALLCAT. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete If winning it is not defining, losing for being monarchs of country that went to war against the UK doesn't seem defining. (No conceptual objection to the parent category but itsuffers from small cat.) RevelationDirect (talk) 10:40, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename and repurpose -- Category:Annulled recipients of British honours before 1945. This and two or three sibling categories cover German royalty whose honours were cancelled in WWI and Italians in WWII.  Merge in similar categories for KB and KCVO.  I think this will be better than upmerging to include them with modern cancellations, which the annulled parent mainly covers. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:33, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Cosmos Club members
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Cosmos Club members
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT
 * The Cosmos Club is a private social club in Washington D.C. and these articles are split between making no mention and a passing mention of the club: no mention of the club is made in the articles for inventor Alexander Graham Bell, Senator Larry Pressler, and Representative Stanton J. Peelle while it gets only a passing mention with Mayor Louis Brownlow, architect Nathan C. Wyeth, and attorney David Carliner. Neither group seems defined by this association. I just listified the category contents right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Just membership of an organization is hardly ever defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:The Kennel Club
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:13, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:The Kennel Club
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT approaching WP:C2F, one eponymous article
 * The only things in this category are The Kennel Club and an image file that's already in the infobox of that same article. So this doesn't currently aid navigation but no objection to recreating it if we ever gets to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Bondegezou (talk) 08:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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