Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 18



Wikipedians by sea

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting wikipedians by sea
 * Propose deleting wikipedians in the atlantic ocean
 * Propose deleting wikipedians in the indian ocean
 * Propose deleting wikipedians in the mediterranean sea‎
 * Propose deleting wikipedians in the pacific ocean
 * Nominator's rationale: Not meaningfully different from Category:Wikipedians near oceans and it's former subcats, which were deleted per Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 26 in 2017. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per previous discussion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in New Zealand by diocese

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in New Zealand by diocese to Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in New Zealand
 * Nominator's rationale: These is only 1 Catholic archdiocese in NZ. There is no need for a "by diocese" split. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename and also reparent, or merge to parent categories, in either case because there is only one Catholic archdiocese in New Zealand. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Churches in Idaho Falls, Idaho

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Idaho Falls, Idaho to Category:Churches in Bonneville County, Idaho
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to . Per WP:SMALLCAT and precedent, this category (3 articles) is unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 16:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if the counts exceeds expectations and ever gets to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Churches in Cañon City, Colorado

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Churches in Cañon City, Colorado to Category:Churches in Fremont County, Colorado
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge to . Per WP:SMALLCAT and precedent, this category (3 articles) is unlikely to grow significantly. User:Namiba 16:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if the counts exceeds expectations and ever gets to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Pre-1980 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting pre-1980 southern hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: This category has no entries; it reflects a previous structure to Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season articles which has since been revised, so it's now redundant. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment This category is empty, as stated above. Liz Read! Talk! 15:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:16th-century Belgian writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, this is within the previous day's wider nomination Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_17. I'm not sure why the original CFD template was removed, but it does not matter now. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:16th-century Belgian writers to Category:Writers of the Habsburg Netherlands
 * Nominator's rationale: Rathfelder (talk) 09:33, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge, Belgium did not exist until 1830. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:17th-century Belgian writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge, and redirect as a redirect will be useful for navigation. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century Belgian writers to Category:Writers of the Spanish Netherlands
 * Nominator's rationale: Before Belgium existed Rathfelder (talk) 09:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge, Belgium did not exist until 1830. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As the Oxford English Dictionary puts it: "The name Belgium and related words appear from the 16th cent. in several European languages, including English, as a name for the southern regions of the Low Countries, both historical and contemporary, often in contrast with Batavia". So the word was in use before there was an independent Belgian state, and it is accepted English usage to apply it to "the southern regions of the Low Countries, both historical and contemporary". It might have been helpful to centralise discussion of "Belgian" categories, perhaps at WikiProject Belgium, to get more input before launching changes across hundreds of pages. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge but also split into Flemish and Walloon categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Oppose the split which will just make things more messy.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Corsi Dynasty Members

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Corsi Dynasty Members to Category:House of Corsi
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, in most family categories there is no specific need to make a subcategory for biographies and this is not an exception: the parent category only contains the eponymous article and this subcategory. If kept, at least rename to Category:Corsi dynasty members or Category:House of Corsi members without capitals. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Category:Corsi Dynasty Members to Category:Corsi dynasty members – C2A, capitalization Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Within Category:Italian noble families, the categories using "dynasty" do not also have the word "members", so if renamed it should be Category:Corsi dynasty. But why not merge to Category:House of Corsi C2D per House of Corsi, which contains nothing more? No other Italian noble "House of"/"family" categories have a separate sub-category called "dynasty". – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Since I will make a category for the family palaces like Museo Horne and Palazzo del Circolo dell'Unione that have an article here on Wikipedia, and for works of art and sculptures like Dafne, don't you think it is better that each topic has its category? Thank you for the warning and i agree in what you guys decide!! (O Correto (talk) 16:04, 14 May 2021 (UTC))
 * Fair enough. I see that e.g. Category:Loredan family contains palaces etc. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Support speedy rename, but also support merge. Like in Category:Loredan family, articles about family places and family art can be added with a sort key. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * O Correto has been now indefinitely blocked (there is also a related AN topic), should we still proceed?--Ymblanter (talk) 05:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename Merge as proposed for now. If non-biography articles ever appear, we can re-evaluate. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:36, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * do you mean merge instead of rename? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixed. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:36, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. This is a better action than the one I initially proposed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge -- We do not need both. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:30, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Pejoratives

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Pejoratives to Category:Pejorative terms
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the subcats in the tree Category:Pejorative terms for people‎. Also, "pejorative terms" is more commonly used in English compared to "pejoratives". (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename While we don't normally add length to article names to clarify that they are words or terms, since this category is about a type of terminology it seems clearer here - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCASSOC & WP:TRIVIALCAT)
 * The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget is a bipartisan American think tank founded in 1981 and this category contains biographies of very prominent political people like Senator Bob Packwood, Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan, Congressperson Jim Nussle, and Secretary of the Treasury Janet Yellen. Tellingly, none of those articles even mention this association. According to the main article, the organization is overseen by a 40-member lager board of directors which may account for much of this category but, who knows, there may be other relationships represented here but they don't seem defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- It feels like a PERFCAT to me. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Metafictional characters
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 17%23Category:Metafictional characters