Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 5



Category:Politicians killed in accidents in India

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Accidental deaths in India.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. This is similar to those categories already deleted at Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 27. Lettlerhello • contribs 23:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Politicians killed in accidents in India to Category:Accidental deaths in India
 * Support in principle, per nom, but the category can simply be deleted, the articles are already in road or aviation accidental deaths in India. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Their occupation seems to have no relation with the cause of death. Dimadick (talk) 19:11, 28 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:History of Haapsalu

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: delete (or else merge to Category:Haapsalu and Category:Kuressaare per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one and the same article in both categories of which it is quite questionable whether it belongs in the tree of Category:Haapsalu and Category:Kuressaare. Categorizing vice versa would make more sense, having Haapsalu and Kuressaare in the bishopric category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting history of haapsalu
 * Propose deleting Category:History of Kuressaare
 * Merge to respective parent categories -- There is no purpose in having a separate "history of ..." category, unless there is scope for populating it with at least 5 articles, which is unlikely. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:48, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who use Acer laptop

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: I don't believe we categorize editors by the brand of computer they use. At least, when I looked for other similar categories, I couldn't find them. Liz Read! Talk! 21:44, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who use acer laptop
 * Delete per Categories for discussion/User/Archive/Topical index. It's nice to see someone else care about enforcing WP:USERCAT * Pppery * it has begun... 16:40, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who loves noodles

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: I think this is destined to be a small category and I don't see how it serves uniting editors on Wikipedia. Better as a userbox than category. Liz Read! Talk! 21:40, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who loves noodles
 * Delete Does not contribute to building an encyclopedia; title is also gramatically incorrect. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 21:42, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as a category grouping users by irrelevant likes * Pppery * it has begun... 16:40, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Netflix controversies

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT: how does one accurately and consistently define what qualifies as a "controversy"? Joeyconnick (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting netflix controversies
 * Delete per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, the same argument may be made for other controversies categories, there is no specific reason to delete only this one category. The discussion should start at the level of Category:Controversies. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:26, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: that's entirely counter-productive. We're never going to get any improvements made if the litmus is "have you made every possible improvement ever across the entire project that may be related to this?" In this case, this is a very freshly created category that should be nipped early, not allowed to remain and develop inertia simply because there are potentially other categories that may be problematic for the same or related reasons. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Very arbitrary category that will be a crap magnet that will be populated by every Tom, Dick, and Harry's idea of the Netflix films or shows that they dislike. That process has already begun and will quickly accelerate. I agree with Joeyconnick: nip it in the bud now. Sundayclose (talk) 02:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Electricity articles needing translation from Swedish Wikipedia
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: In theory, this subcat is or could have been part of Template:Expand_Swedish, but no topic-code exists for this subcategory, and afaict nothing has ever been listed in this category; probably sci should be used instead. See Template:Expand Swedish. Mathglot (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting electricity articles needing translation from swedish wikipedia
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:40, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:School shootings committed by teenagers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 13%23Category:School shootings committed by teenagers

Category:Amateur chess players
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  18:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: → This strongly suggests to me that this is a WP:NOTDEFINING category. Most of the articles in this category that I looked at contain little more than a throwaway statment that the person enjoyed playing chess, some of them (like Lewis Carroll) don't mention chess at all. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting amateur chess players
 * Delete Lots of people have played chess before. I don't think there have been any significant achievements in the gameplay, as with Category:Amateur astronomers and Category:Amateur mathematicians. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 21:41, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The difference is that Category:Amateur astronomers and Category:Amateur mathematicians contain people who are notable for being astronomers or mathematicians, this category contains people who are notable for other things but who happen to also be good at chess. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 21:49, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-defining as a category of people with pet dogs. User:力 (powera, π,  ν ) 00:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Zoroastrian dynasties and rulers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 11%23Category:Zoroastrian dynasties and rulers

Category:Medieval Persia
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  11:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: rename, in the middle ages a centralized Persian Empire was non-existant. It was part of the caliphate, or reigned by Mongols, or part of temporary local states with widely varying borders (e.g. current Iraq + western Iran, or current eastern Iran and parts of Central Asia). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:45, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Medieval Persia to Category:Medieval history of Iran
 * Query that being the case, why try to shoe-horn it into another ahistorical category? Why not just split it into its various states (caliphate, Mongols, temporary local states)? Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Support We do not have an article on Persia. Dimadick (talk) 19:15, 28 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Slavery in the Fatimid Caliphate
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  11:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:23, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting slavery in the fatimid caliphate
 * Opose. I see no reason to why it should be less relevant than any other category sorting slavery by country. Its practical and usefull. --Aciram (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The subcategory is already parented by ethnicity and country, by Category:Arabian slaves and freedmen and Category:Egyptian slaves. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:18, 13 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant.VR talk 20:47, 27 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Slavery in Persia
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  11:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:18, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Slavery in Persia to Category:Slavery in Iran
 * Delete as redundant.VR talk 20:47, 27 November 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Roberts acting family
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:20, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: These are the same category with the same contents. I'd be happy with a merge either direction, though I slightly prefer the direction indicated here.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 05:28, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Roberts acting family to Category:Roberts family (acting)
 * Merge to per key article Roberts family (acting) and per overwhelming precedent (e.g.,, , and over 100 , , etc.). For some reason, US "nobility" uses the format , but it's consistent. Note that there are four other family cats which use the  format - , , , and , but they are in a severe minority - it may be worth changing them at some point too. Grutness...  wha?   00:17, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I will nominate these.--Mike Selinker (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


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