Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 18



Category:Canon Law articles needing attention

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting canon law articles needing attention
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-standard category which is populated manually. The talk page of the member article Inventory of Church Property is now marked with parameter  which places it in Category:Catholicism articles needing attention. Catholic canon law now has a task force rather than a full WikiProject. I believe the project template has no scope to designate a different attention category for task force articles.  – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: if not deleted, rename to per WP:WikiProject Catholicism/Catholic canon law task force (see RM on its talk page). – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- if this is needed at all it should be an an administrative category on talk pages, but the wider Catholicism category (which the one article is also in) should be enough. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Objects

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. Withdrawn by nominator, no other support. (non-admin closure) User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 22:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Objects to Category:Entities
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a useful distinction to make in the category tree. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 21:23, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose, objects are a clearly distinct subset of entities since they are physical entities. Instead, Category:Physical objects should be merged to Category:Objects. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose, and oppose merge as well. If "Physical objects" were merged to "Objects" then that might be renamed C2D to Physical objects. It's probably useful to keep the more general parent over Hypothetical and Nonexistent things. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * After reading the comments, while I still think something needs to be done, I agree the specific merge initially proposed isn't the right choice. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 22:13, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Reality by type

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Reality by type to Category:Virtual reality
 * Nominator's rationale: "Reality by type" is confounding; the contents are all vaguely synonymous with virtual reality. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 21:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose - although this is one of user:Stefanomione's mysterious '6967 categories still standing as eternal rocks in the ephemeral Wikipedia stream,' often baffling to mere mortals, it does appear to be a subcat scheme for 'reality' by type, virtual being just one type. Oculi (talk) 21:28, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Except mixed reality, extended reality and augmented reality are all types of virtual reality. Hyperreality is something different, I think. Alternate reality probably needs to move up.  User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 02:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Category:Reality by type is a serious subcat scheme. All those subs are not to be equalized with Virtual reality as they just comprehend parts of it solely. -Just N. (talk) 16:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. While most existing "realities" are all computer related, I just added social reality (and their could be many others) that do not belong in the virtual cat. There may be other problems with this and other cats as it is similar to points of views, or the different realisms of philosophy. Sounds more like a set-index-category if there ever was such a thing. Dpleibovitz (talk) 03:18, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The category is certainly better now (and the initial merge makes less sense) but I'm not sure why this needs be separate from Category:Reality. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 03:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of restaurants by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename also considering the previous discussion. If there is going to be a follow-up nomination about using "cuisine" in the name it makes sense to nominate the two categories together. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of restaurants by ethnicity to Category:Lists of ethnic restaurants
 * Nominator's rationale: Per this ongoing discussion. There seems to be a preference for "ethnic restaurants" over "restaurants by ethnicity", so seeking consistency here. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, but it would be better to hold off until the current discussions are sorted out. Grutness... wha?   20:08, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete —¿philoserf? (talk) 12:23, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The discussion is done. The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. --Just N. (talk) 16:29, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Prefer -- "ethnic-cuisine restaurants". While most ethnic restaurants are run by people of that descent or a similar one (Banglasdeshi for Indian), this is not necessarily the case.  In Britain there is a chain of Mexican restaurant, but with Mexican-style foods; not run by Mexicans or even Latin-Americans.  Similarly Pizza restaurants ought to be Italian (or perhaps American), but I know of a local takeaway run by ethnic Turks.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Ştefan Protopopescu

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy rename C2A, C2E. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:00, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ştefan Protopopescu to Category:Ștefan Protopopescu
 * Nominator's rationale: Romanian biography. Romanian never uses Ş, but Ș. Super   Ψ   Dro  18:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * It should be per the article Ștefan Protopopescu. My eyesight is not sufficiently keen to know whether this is a support. Oculi (talk) 18:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you are right, I took the name from the wikimedia category. At that time the wikimedia category didn't exist either but I didn't modify the name when I created it because I didn't notice it used the Ş instead of Ș. I'll change the name of that category as well. Alin2808 (talk) 19:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's noteworthy to mention for this nomination that Alin2808 is the creator of the category now that they've left a message here. Super   Ψ   Dro  20:28, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Films directed by Karl Heinz Martin

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films directed by Karl Heinz Martin to Category:Films directed by Karlheinz Martin
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D: Karlheinz Martin.  DoubleCross  ( ‡ ) 15:09, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per current title. Dhawangupta (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Support; typo correction.--Srleffler (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 16:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Communist Party of India politicians (Marxist) from Kerala

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting communist party of india politicians (marxist) from kerala
 * Nominator's rationale: Incorrect duplicate of Category:Communist Party of India (Marxist) politicians from Kerala Soman (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - Duplication. FOARP (talk) 11:09, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as it also empty. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as errant. Curbon7 (talk) 18:31, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, category has been emptied. Could have been tagged CSD C1. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as errant. --Just N. (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- If it had not been empty, I would have said merge. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:English anti-communists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  14:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting english anti-communists
 * Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a pure WP:OPINIONCAT/WP:NONDEF, similar to the previous American Anti-Communists category. Contains mainly people who (like most English people) didn't like communism. The English Anti-Fascists category probably also needs to be either deleted (or renamed so as to explicitly only cover actual activists who were members of e.g., Anti-Fascist Action or similar groupings). FOARP (talk) 08:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Can only be used subjectively and, given the inclusion of WWII leaders for example, it takes no action of shifting circumstances. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is a subjective POV category. Winston Churchill is included, presumably correctly, but he had a pragmatic alliance with Joe Stalin during WWII.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:17, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Optical wireless communication

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (merging is not needed, the content is already in Category:Optical communications) (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting optical wireless communication
 * Nominator's rationale: This new category is redundant with Category:Optical communications. All optical communication is "wireless". Srleffler (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If someone wants to argue that we take "wireless" more broadly to exclude optical fiber and other physical connections I would be fine with that, however one of the three things the creator of this category put in it was Category:Fiber-optic communications, which makes the category completely redundant with Category:Optical communications. A subcategory to collect together material on optical communications methods that send signals through free space might be useful, but we have to be careful about the name. Optical wireless communications and Free-space optical communication are two distinct technologies. Category:Free-space optical communication might be the better name for a category that encompasses both, due to the ambiguity of the term "wireless" as applied to optical communications.--Srleffler (talk) 20:45, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * TL;DR: This category is redundant. Delete it.--Srleffler (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:American victims of school bullying

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  14:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american victims of school bullying
 * Nominator's rationale: An incoherent mix of suicides, school shooters, and social media personalities. Not defining, and impossible to complete. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 01:44, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Srleffler (talk) 15:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 16:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Urban 13 universities

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  14:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting urban 13 universities
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic. I just redirected Urban 13 to Great Cities' Universities, I think it was a 1998 name change - if this is kept it should be renamed.  Book sources verify this organization used to exist, but it appears to no longer have a website and may be defunct (or merged into Coalition of Urban Serving Universities over a decade ago). User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 01:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom--Srleffler (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete -- as we have done with loads of membership categories for universities. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Higher education in Arkansas

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:02, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting higher education in arkansas
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one entry, and that entry is already in the category tree of both parent categories. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 01:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Seems like a redundant category.--Srleffler (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I might have said merge to Category:Education in Arkansas. It will be a grandchild to the other parent.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:22, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


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Former Canadian intelligence agencies

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Former Canadian intelligence agencies to Category:Defunct Canadian intelligence agencies
 * Nominator's rationale: Keeping naming convention consistent under Defunct intellligence agencies category. Ominae (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I changed the nomination to what I think was your intention. Please check. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Srleffler (talk) 15:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. --Just N. (talk) 16:44, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


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