Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 3



Category:Deaths in Yorkshire and the Humber

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  10:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting deaths in yorkshire and the humber
 * Propose deleting deaths in the west midlands (region)
 * Propose deleting deaths in south west england
 * Propose deleting deaths in south east england
 * Propose deleting deaths in west yorkshire
 * Propose deleting deaths in north east england
 * Propose deleting deaths in the east midlands
 * Propose deleting deaths in east of england
 * Propose deleting deaths in palermo
 * Propose deleting deaths in milan
 * Nominator's rationale: Per this discussion. Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Procedural comment, I have taken the liberty to merge these discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all, if people die in the place they are from they should be in a "People from" category and otherwise the place of death is generally not defining (e.g. in a hospital or while having a heart attack). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the previous consensus.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:27, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Place of death is not defining....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:51, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep all because it's relevant to biographies. Place of death is usually stated in the ibox as well as the body of the article. Where their lives ended is of significant relevance to their lives & articles. To use high-profile cases, it's certainly relevant than JFK died in Dallas & Princess Diana in Paris. Try writing even a short account of the lives of either of them without mentioning where they died & it would be considered to have a major omission. To say that Paolo Borsellino shouldn't be in the Deaths in Palermo cat because said cat shouldn't exist makes no sense to me - in what way is it a trivial point? Jim Michael (talk) 14:32, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Paolo Borsellino is already in Category:Jurists from Palermo so having him in a Deaths in Palermo cat adds nothing. Even if he would have died elsewhere he would still be in the relevant Palermo category. Note that the nomination does not intend to remove the information altogether; having it in the ibox or in the body of the text is not under discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete all. Place of death is rarely defining. Rathfelder (talk) 21:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Jōdo Shinshū Buddhist monks
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Category:Nepalese lyricists
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 12%23Category:Nepalese lyricists

Category:Emotional and behavioral disorders in childhood and adolescence

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  10:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Emotional and behavioral disorders in childhood and adolescence to Category:Childhood psychiatric disorders
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge as the scope of the two categories is largely overlapping. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Strongly support - EBD is a very very US term (I studied psych in Australia, with a particular focus on childhood disorders, and I had never heard this term before editing WP), and while it has been equated to the ICD codes in the category, realistically its a far more poorly defined term. Whereas CPD is directly based on ICD codes, is more immediately recognisable internationally, and is more concise. And, as Marcocapelle said, they have the same scope. They are both defined in the lead as "Generally, diseases outlined within the ICD-10 codes F90–F98 within Chapter V: Mental and behavioural disorders should be included in this category." The exact same codes. --Xurizuri (talk) 22:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Indian film singers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  10:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Indian film singers to Category:Indian playback singers
 * Nominator's rationale: The article is Playback singer. Some of the country categories are "Playback singers" and some "film singers", but as far as I can tell these are the same thing.  Category:Indian film singers is much the biggest category.  If its agreed this should be changed the remaining 3 can be done speedily. Rathfelder (talk) 13:57, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per Playback singer and parent . Oculi (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Nine-cylinder engines

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Two-cylinder engines to, keep the rest (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:17, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Single-cylinder engines to Category:1-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Two-cylinder engines to Category:2-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Three-cylinder engines to Category:3-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Four-cylinder engines to Category:4-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Five-cylinder engines to Category:5-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Six-cylinder engines to Category:6-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Seven-cylinder engines to Category:7-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Eight-cylinder engines to Category:8-cylinder engines
 * Propose renaming Category:Nine-cylinder engines to Category:9-cylinder engines
 * Nominator's rationale: This is the logical extension of Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 10, which changed to . I'll note that MOS:NUMERAL was incorrectly invoked in that discussion, since "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure" was conveniently omitted/ignored, and was thus violated. MOS:NUMERAL is irrelevant here anyway, since it says "Generally, in article text", and since consistency is the overarching goal in category space, and that all categories in a series should be either all words, or all numerals.
 * Pinging all participants in that discussion: .  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  13:22, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose - we have Single-cylinder engine and so the category should be as it is - no-one would say one-cylinder engine. The others are less clear cut but I don't see any problem with the present names. Oculi (talk) 17:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to keeping & using numerals for the rest.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * contains:
 * Straight-twin engine
 * V-twin engine
 * Ducati L-twin engine
 * no page nor category containing "two"
 * Shouldn't we then rename to  due to its proliferance & popularity?   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  18:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * sounds like an improvement. Oculi (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't we then rename to  due to its proliferance & popularity?   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  18:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * sounds like an improvement. Oculi (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Oculi and because single digit numbers should be worded in titles. No Great Shaker (talk) 17:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * so you propose renaming, , , , etc., etc.?  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, that rather depends on context, doesn't it? No Great Shaker (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your argument, "because single digit numbers should be worded in titles", is not context-dependent, so I suggest improving it.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  19:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose, but the suggestion of changing Two-cylinder to Twin-cylinder has merit and I would support that. Grutness... wha?   19:55, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Question In the above nomination, Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 10 was cited, which says "...rename all above nine cylinders with digits." So why mess with nine and below now? What changed since that discussion? Gjs238 (talk) 22:58, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In all fairness, the categories under 10 cylinders have not been discussed thoroughly in the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:19, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Bangladeshi film singers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bangladeshi film singers
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Bangladeshi playback singers - adequately categorised. Rathfelder (talk) 13:14, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to as Category:Bangladeshi playback singers is not otherwise adequately categorised. Oculi (talk) 19:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy with that. Rathfelder (talk) 18:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Nepalese film singers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting nepalese film singers
 * Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Nepalese playback singers, alrerady adequately categorised. Rathfelder (talk) 13:13, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to and  (as Category:Nepalese playback singers is not otherwise adequately categorised). Oculi (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy with that. Rathfelder (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Segments from Fantasia
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