Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 7



Category:Panzer commanders

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.  ✗  plicit  06:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Panzer commanders to Category:Tank commanders
 * Nominator's rationale: No reason to break out German tank commanders out of the Category:Tank commanders. Other tank commanders in the parent category do not have sub-categories by nationality. K.e.coffman (talk) 13:32, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Nom's comment: the proposed rename to Category:German tank commanders sounds like a good solution, and preserves the historical value mentioned below. --K.e.coffman (talk) 18:36, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep for its historical value. I've added it into Category:German Army soldiers of World War II as it was in only the machinery/weaponry category tree and needs to be in the personnel side too. I would support creation of sub-categories for American and Red Army tank commanders as there are many of both in the parent. I'm surprised by the lack of British ones, though. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * "Panzer" is German for "tank", so machinery / weaponry is the same. K.e.coffman (talk) 14:02, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's right. Thanks. No Great Shaker (talk) 14:10, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep It seems like a valid subcategory. Dimadick (talk) 15:55, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If kept, rename to Category:German tank commanders. There is no specific need to translate tank to German. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with the proposed rename because other categories (American, British, Russian) will certainly be by nationality. No Great Shaker (talk) 20:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep but rename this is a bit of an odd categorisation (as is tank commanders for that matter) because some of the people on this list were commanders of units containing tanks, not necessarily involved in commanding a tank of their own (although some like Abrams did, as they were armoured corps/branch officers who did ride in a tank in the earlier and even later stages of their careers). I think it (the suggested rename and other nationality subcats) could do with being more clearly defined as being only for people who have personally commanded a tank. In a few of the articles in the cat, that isn't clearly the case. Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 07:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I see no need to rename: the fact that a panzer is a German tank of WWII era can be dealt with in a headnote. 9 articles is plenty large enough to keep.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No reason to rename? I do not understand that. Would you then also use Category:Chars d'assaut commanders for French tank commanders? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The term “Chars d'assaut” hasn’t been adopted into common english usage, you won’t find in any english dictionary, unlike french words “ambulance”, “chauffer” or “dossier” for example. —-Nug (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep for its historical value. --Just N. (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as is, the term “panzer” has been adopted into the english language to mean “German tank”, as evidenced by these dictionary entries:, , , etc. —Nug (talk) 19:46, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Monroe White Sox

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting monroe white sox
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. 1 article, 1 subcategory, team defunct since 1941. User:Namiba 12:32, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. SMALLCAT applies. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:12, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Thibodaux Senators

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting thibodaux senators
 * Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry and one subcategory. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. WP:SMALLCAT applies. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:37, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Serbian pop-folk singers
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Category:Treatment by psychiatric diagnosis

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  06:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Treatment by psychiatric diagnosis to Category:Treatment of mental disorders
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, it is not the diagnosis that needs to be treated, it is the mental disorder that is treated. Also it is kind of WP:C2C: most subcategories have the form "Treatment of (mental disorder)". Marcocapelle (talk) 09:38, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Diagnosis precedes treatment and they are two completely separate processes. "Treatment by diagnosis" makes no sense. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:32, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:24, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Symptoms and signs: General

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  06:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Symptoms and signs: General to Category:Symptoms and signs
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCMISC, "general" is in this context just another word for "other. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. No need for ": General". No Great Shaker (talk) 13:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. This category structure was created to mirror the ICD-10 categorization (see https://icd.who.int/browse10/2019/en#/XVIII). This is an internationally recognized way to categorize all diseases and disorders in medicine. The ICD-10 calls the broad category "Symptoms, signs and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings, not elsewhere classified" (codes R00-R99). Amongst the subcategories of this, one is "General symptoms and signs" (codes R50-R69). These titles are what the ICD-10 uses. The categories have ICD category at the top explaining this categorization. --Scott Alter (talk) 02:42, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We use common names, not official names. There is no article Symptoms and signs: General either. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:25, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of people by name feature

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Lists of people by epithet.  ✗  plicit  06:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lists of people by name feature
 * Nominator's rationale: I don't know what "name feature" means. Most of the entries are already in Category:Epithets or Category:Lists of people by nickname. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: I recently added a number of articles to this category based on the existing articles in it (perhaps prompting this discussion). In particular, I added many "List of people known as" lists, as the category had seemed incomplete for including, for instance List of people known as "the Great" and not List of people known as the Navigator. My perhaps incorrect interpretation is that the category is for lists whose inclusion criteria is a person who has any name with a particular feature (e.g., reduplication or including a particular epithet). There is overlap between the categories, but they are distinct; Category:Epithets is not only for lists and both it and Category:Lists of people by nickname distinguishes that the name is not a given name or surname. This is a a long-standing category that appears to have had a fair number of pageviews; it can be renamed or its inclusion criteria can be clarified, but I'm unclear of the policy or benefit that would support deletion. —Ost (talk) 08:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Lists of people by epithet to clarify the category's purpose. It is a valid subcategory of Category:Epithets exclusively consisting of lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, but make sure all entries are in one or both of the other two categories. I considered a rename but there is already a considerable parent/child WP:OVERCAT, so I prefer deletion. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Lists of people by epithet as suggested by Marcocapelle. — Reinyday, 03:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - perhaps renamed -- This is potentially a useful navigation aid. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Lists of people by epithet per above. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 23:31, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Gorizian historians

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  06:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Gorizian historians to Category:Historians
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. The target is up for debate: Category:Slovenian historians is not accurate, while Category:Slovene historians and Category:Austro-Hungarian historians do not exist. The article is already in Category:Gorizian people so a second merge target is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Note that Category:Gorizian people by occupation will be empty as a result of this.--User:Namiba 12:35, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. This ties in with the Gorizian nomination raised yesterday. No Great Shaker (talk) 12:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge too small a cat, and vague as to whether it is "Historians from Gorizia" or "Historians of Gorizia". User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 23:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


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