Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 1



Category:Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:African Americans shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States to Category:African Americans shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2C, the parent category and sibling categories contain "African-American" instead of "black". I have nominated it at full discussion because other formats are also possible. The latter part "in the United States" may be redundant and another option is e.g. Category:Shootings of African Americans by law enforcement officers. Apart from renaming from "black people" to "African Americans" I do not have a preference for a particular alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Support This seem to be about the American ethnic group, rather than a category by race. Dimadick (talk) 20:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Black is not precise enough. However, the qualification in the United States is necessary because there could be police killings of U.S. residents in other countries. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 20:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - a depressingly large category. Oculi (talk) 11:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


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Kendall and Kylie Jenner categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:20, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kendall jenner
 * Propose deleting kylie jenner
 * Nominator's rationale: With only one article outside the main article, these eponymous categories represent overcategorization per WP:OCEPON. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Quiet worried for me. But I didn't know this in fact. If I am wrong for this, feel free to delete it. EricSDA (talk) 23:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Dee Bradley Baker

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dee bradley baker
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. I was just about to nominate this one myself. I removed Klaus Heisler from the category per WP:PERFCAT, leaving only a filmography. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Sculptures of African-Americans

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sculptures of African Americans.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of African-Americans to Category:Sculptures of African Americans
 * Nominator's rationale: The hyphen is used only when the term is an adjective, like "African-American authors". It's grammatically wrong here. deisenbe (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please fix this. I have not formatted it right but I don't know how. deisenbe (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Done Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Support - as in Category:African Americans by city. Oculi (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Television shows filmed in Vancouver

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 * The result of the discussion was: reverse merge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Television shows filmed in Vancouver to Category:Television series produced in Vancouver
 * Nominator's rationale: Proposed merging. That is a confused category and it was recently created on July 22, 2021 entitled "Television series filmed in Vancouver". The confused title has to be merged to the existing category to "Television series produced in Vancouver", to follow the Canadian related "Television series produced in (insert Canadian city)" categories. Steam5 (talk) 08:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, for consistency within Canada. In a number of other countries "filmed" is more often used, is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No, it's a matter of editors not sticking to one style. Notice that Category:Television series produced in Vancouver is a subcat of Category:Television series by city of shooting location and eventually Category:Canadian television series by production location which is not in any "produced in" category but rather in Category:Television shows filmed in Canada. Gonnym (talk) 18:46, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok then I support either merge or reverse merge. In any case it does not make sense to have two of these categories next to each other. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:22, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose and opposite merge. There is no "Category:Television series by country of production" or similar that I can find, but rather only Category:Television series by country of shooting location. Gonnym (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steam5 (talk) 04:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Adding sibling categories for renaming as below
 * do you mean "support reverse merge"? Initially I thought you meant to oppose both merge and reverse merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry I was not clear there. Gonnym (talk) 08:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge per Gonnym's proposal. There is no category tree for Category:Television series by country of production. We don't need to create a duplicate category tree. Dimadick (talk) 10:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge. The norm for other countries' or cities' categories of this type is indeed "shows filmed in [Place]" rather than "series produced in [Place]". To be fair, there is also, indicating that there's been inconsistency and disagreement about this in the past, but Canada (and Massachusetts) somehow got left behind when the rest of the tree was standardized the other way. (The container for "American television series by state" categories is also named , incidentally, but all of the individual state categories are named "shows filmed in" except for Massachusetts, and I have been able to find some examples of "Television series produced in [State]" getting moved to "Television shows filmed in [State]" at CFD, but I can't find evidence of a comprehensive group move of all of them — so it's likely that the US had two competing trees at some point too.) So reverse merge this, and then rename the other Canadian categories to follow. Bearcat (talk) 11:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Alberta to Category:Television shows filmed in Alberta
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in British Columbia to Category:Television shows filmed in British Columbia
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Manitoba to Category:Television shows filmed in Manitoba
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in New Brunswick to Category:Television shows filmed in New Brunswick
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Newfoundland and Labrador to Category:Television shows filmed in Newfoundland and Labrador
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in the Northwest Territories to Category:Television shows filmed in the Northwest Territories
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Nova Scotia to Category:Television shows filmed in Nova Scotia
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Ontario to Category:Television shows filmed in Ontario
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Quebec to Category:Television shows filmed in Quebec
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Saskatchewan to Category:Television shows filmed in Saskatchewan
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Calgary to Category:Television shows filmed in Calgary
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Edmonton to Category:Television shows filmed in Edmonton
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Burnaby to Category:Television shows filmed in Burnaby
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Winnipeg to Category:Television shows filmed in Winnipeg
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador to Category:Television shows filmed in St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Halifax, Nova Scotia to Category:Television shows filmed in Halifax, Nova Scotia
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Greater Sudbury to Category:Television shows filmed in Greater Sudbury
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Hamilton, Ontario to Category:Television shows filmed in Hamilton, Ontario
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Toronto to Category:Television shows filmed in Toronto
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Ottawa to Category:Television shows filmed in Ottawa
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Montreal to Category:Television shows filmed in Montreal
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series produced in Regina, Saskatchewan to Category:Television shows filmed in Regina, Saskatchewan


 * Thank you Bearcat for starting a procedural nomination to complete this on my behalf. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The standard in is "shows filmed in", not "series produced in", so these should follow for consistency. Bearcat (talk) 14:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of fictional astronomical locations

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Lists of fictional astronomical locations to Category:Fictional astronomical locations and Category:Lists of fictional locations
 * Propose merging Category:Lists of fictional planets to Category:Fictional planets and Category:Lists of fictional locations
 * Propose merging Category:Lists of fictional moons to Category:Fictional moons and Category:Lists of fictional locations
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently a total of three articles in the three categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: it appears that other former contents were deleted per Articles for deletion/List of Star Trek planets (A–B). – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support I created this article before the majority of the lists were deleted in the linked AfD and several others in late 2019. –Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 20:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Belarusian South African
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  06:25, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Belarusian South African to Category:Belarusian diaspora in South Africa
 * Nominator's rationale: In line with other names in Category:Belarusian diaspora. Lembit Staan (talk) 03:02, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Just delete it -- The only content is Category:South African people of Belarusian descent, which only has a total of two people in it, one via a sub-cat. There may well be room for populating that better, as I suspect that a lot of potential members are categorised as Russian.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete by lack of any topic articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:35, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Marcocapelle. Steam5 (talk) 04:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)


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