Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 11



Category:Stadiums that have hosted a FIFA World Cup final match

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Stadiums that have hosted a FIFA World Cup final match to Category:Stadiums which have hosted a FIFA World Cup final match
 * Nominator's rationale: "Which" is better than "that". Dr Salvus 18:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * OOjs UI icon subtract-destructive.svg Oppose: @Dr Salvus, see English relative clauses - "that" should be used. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  19:24, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support renaming. "Which" is correct in this case. Central and Adams (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Isn't this perhaps a difference between British and American English? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:44, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OC * Pppery * it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, Pppery is entirely correct, this is a classical case of overcategorization. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:48, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per OCVENUE. A longstanding convention.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. GiantSnowman 18:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCVENUE — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 15:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:17th-century establishments in Dahomey

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century establishments in Dahomey to Category:17th-century establishments in Africa
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, Dahomey cannot be an establishment in Dahomey. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The article Dahomey is already in Category:1600 establishments in Africa, so no upmerge will be necessary for this category. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 08:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * it should not be in Category:1600 establishments in Africa, meanwhile the latter category has been nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. The establishment was "in c.1600", not "in 1600", so that that categorisation is spurious.  The target is thus the appropriate category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about Busan
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Songs about Busan to Category:Songs about South Korea
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one member, no help to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 16:23, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support but also merge to Category:Songs about cities and Category:Culture of Busan. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Yeoman (F)
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting yeoman (f)
 * Nominator's rationale: I can see the value of its subcat Category:Yeoman (F) personnel‎, but this seems to be a completely unnecessary category level. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Women in the United States Navy. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge (in this case they have the same result), unnecessary category layer with only the main article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Yeomen
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Category:Cultural depictions of people
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Works based on real people. This is following the rename of the original target category, but consensus seems to be that a merge should happen. The subcats can be dealt with in a future nom.  bibliomaniac  1  5  21:30, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Cultural depictions of people to Category:Depictions of people
 * Nominator's rationale: As proposed by User:Peterkingiron in a recent discussion. Reason, presumably (as I understand it and endorse): same topic. Note some subcategories may need a likewise renaming. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, I can't imagine how non-cultural depictions of people would look like. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comments: (1) the previous CFD also offered the alternative of renaming to "Works about people", which was discussed without reaching a clear conclusion. (2) The nominator says "some subcategories may need a likewise renaming" – would that not be all of them? As a precedent for speedy renaming, this discussion would carry more weight if a sample of well-populated sub-cats were tagged and added to this nomination. It might be helpful to list this sample twice, Option A for renaming/merging to "Depictions of", Option B for renaming to "Works about". – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london Some. Most. Not all, Category:Works based on real people‎ seems fine. And I strongly prefer "Works about" than "Depictions of", since as noted before, we have Category:Works but not Category:Depictions. Btw, after a merge, this really needs to be renamed to Category:Works about people. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, so this is just a merge of an apparently redundant layer, and the renaming to "works about people" can be considered later. OK, the sub-cats can be left until then, presenting those two options for renaming in a full nomination. (I had wrongly assumed that the subcats would be speedily renamed following this CFD.) Further note: other Wikipedias have the same duplication, see Q7468397 and Q8374245; I'm willing to do follow-up work on those. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london Thank you. I do support fixing the subcategories, but one problem at a time (also, I don't know which gadget to use to do mass nominations, so I stick to one-by-one, usually). PS. You, and everyone else, is welcome to check Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Culture, which is somewhat related. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: see also Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 11.– Fayenatic  L ondon 09:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OOjs UI icon add-constructive.svg Support per nom. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1659128271420:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2022_June_12" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl talk  20:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:22, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge both to Category:Works based on people. Per the above. - jc37 10:35, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * I agree on having them ultimately in Category:Works based on people, so the only hesitation I have is a matter of procedure: shouldn't we discuss the renaming of the target in a fresh discussion? But this hesitation might be too WP:BURO. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comments: per Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_August_7, the target Category:Depictions of people has now been merged to Category:Works based on real people. Note that that one also has a subcat hierarchy of Category:Biographical works; this excludes fanciful stories about real people, hence there was no consensus to merge at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_5. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, after the conclusion of the other merge discussion as mentioned by Fayenatic london, Category:Cultural depictions of people is now both parent and child category of Category:Works based on real people. That is a very clear signal that these two should be merged as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:NHS hospitals in South East England
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Category:Populated places in Uttara
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Category:Kentucky women artists
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 19%23Category:Kentucky women artists

Category:Ukrainian war crimes
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 19%23Category:Ukrainian war crimes

Category:Environmental musical artists
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 * The result of the discussion was: Purge; no consensus to delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting environmental musical artists
 * Nominator's rationale: Undefined and undefinable. Could be about musicians who write pieces about the environment or musicians who write "environmental music", whatever that is. Also, everything is part of the environment ... there's the built and natural environment, for a start. As for the artists added to the category, they may have written some songs about the environment but it might not make up the bulk of their output and that isn't defining for the artists concerned anyway; examples include the Beach Boys ("God Only Knows" is not about the environment as commonly understood, and ditto for Clocks by Coldplay. In all, this is far too wishy-washy to be a stand-alone category. Graham 87 15:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  13:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  11:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Purge if kept, it is not defining for most articles here but e.g. John Luther Adams and Cattle Decapitation might stay. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I created this with the knowledge that a category exists for Political music groups. Also broad but applicable to some of the artists mentioned above, and others, that are affiliated with environmentalism in music. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 15:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Tuvan aviators
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:43, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Tuvan aviators to Category:Tuvan people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEGRS, as a non-notable intersection with ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  13:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  11:18, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom and likely WP:SMALLCAT. JBchrch   talk  14:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep This person was connected with Tuva when it was an indepdent country. This is by the interaction of pilot+ nationality. That is not an OCEGRS issue, since it is nationality not ethnicity, and small cat does not apply to splitting out Category:Pilots by nationality, so this is acceptable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The Tuvan People's Republic was recognized as an independent country by only two other countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Merge per SMALLCAT, probably full upmerge . Tuva was a Russian protectorate until 1921 then independent; then absorbed by USSR, becoming a member of Russian Federation, which is still its status. Tuvan people is well populated and relates to a polity that has long existed, contrary to what Marcocapelle suggests. No need for a wider upmerge as he is already in Soviet aviators.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Poetry by nation or language
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 * The result of the discussion was: split Category:Poetry by nation or language, rename Category:Poetic form by nation or language to Category:Poetic forms by language  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Poetry by nation or language to Category:Poetry by nationality or language
 * Propose renaming Category:Poetic form by nation or language to Category:Poetic form by nationality or language
 * Nominator's rationale: "By nation" is not consistent with current category hierarchies that are by country, nationality, or ethnicity. Nationality seems to be the best fit here, cf. e.g. . – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:56, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Agree with nom that we do not use "by nation" elsewhere. I would slightly favour "by country" (only writers have a nationality) and would suggest splitting too (by country/nationality versus by language). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Not only people – culture has nationality, as it is retained even in diasporas. Therefore the national categories for literature and other cultural forms are named using nationalities rather than country names, see Category_names. Despite this, the parents use "by country" e.g. Category:Literature by country, so I accept this alternative. Revised proposal:
 * Propose splitting Category:Poetry by nation or language to Category:Poetry by country and Category:Poetry by language
 * Propose renaming Category:Poetic form by nation or language to Category:Poetic forms by language
 * – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * I have no gripe with nation-->nationality. Because of the fuzzy overlaps of culture/nationality/language, I feel it's best to keep the category a little vague. In other words, "country" may be too limiting: this would banish, say, "Andalusian poetry" or "Flemish poetry", should such articles be desired, whereas the slightly vaguer "nationality" would allow them in with (what I see as) their siblings. Similarly splitting into 2 categories (nationality versus language) may unnecessarily bring technical and political disputes into a category that is better judged while squinting. Cheers. Phil wink (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I can not see how country would be limiting: Andalusian poetry fits perfectly well in Spain, Flemish poetry fits in Belgium. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Split per Marcocapelle, either nationality or country. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1660945982267:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2022_August_11" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl  talk  21:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Chinese list of cults
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Chinese list of cults to Category:Chinese cults
 * Nominator's rationale: If this category contained lists of cults, it could be named Category:Lists of Chinese cults, but there are presently no lists in the category. I propose that it's renamed to Category:Chinese cults, with parent categories retained. Storchy (talk) 11:01, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, the category does not contain lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Not a category of lists. Dimadick (talk) 06:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


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Subcategories of Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Giovanni Bellini Madonnas to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Giovanni Bellini
 * Propose renaming Category:Botticelli Madonnas to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Sandro Botticelli
 * Propose renaming Category:Cima da Conegliano Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Cima da Conegliano
 * Propose renaming Category:Correggio Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Correggio
 * Propose renaming Category:Crivelli Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Carlo Crivelli
 * Propose renaming Category:Gentile da Fabriano Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Gentile da Fabriano
 * Propose renaming Category:Filippo Lippi Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Filippo Lippi
 * Propose renaming Category:Lotto Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Lorenzo Lotto
 * Propose renaming Category:Mantegna Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Andrea Mantegna
 * Propose renaming Category:Moretto Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Moretto da Brescia
 * Propose renaming Category:Parmigianino Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Parmigianino
 * Propose renaming Category:Perugino Madonnas to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Pietro Perugino
 * Propose renaming Category:Pinturicchio Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Pinturicchio
 * Propose renaming Category:Raphael Madonnas to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Raphael
 * Propose renaming Category:Signorelli Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Luca Signorelli
 * Propose renaming Category:Titian Madonnas‎ to Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Titian


 * Nominator's rationale: recommends "[type of works] by [Artist]", e.g., "Paintings by Foo", but the categories listed above are (I think) the last remnant of an earlier style which used "[Artist] [type of works]". The proposed category names are closer not only to their parent category Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child but also to their "Paintings by [artist]" parent categories and, in seven out of 16 cases, to the parent articles on the artists. Ham II (talk) 09:08, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename all per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom. Dimadick (talk) 06:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Oppose Support renaming, would make these inaccurate as many of the paintings in these categories include other people, such as Joseph, apostles, and others. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As things already stand sacre conversazioni (paintings of the Madonna and Child with other saints) by these artists are in the relevant "Madonna"/"Madonna and Child" category in this list, plus the relevant categories for the other saints – so the Ansidei Madonna is in Category:Raphael Madonnas, Category:Paintings depicting John the Baptist and Category:Paintings of Saint Nicholas. There would be nothing inaccurate about calling the first category "Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Raphael" instead; the other saints are covered by the other categories.
 * Often the title for a sacra conversazione is not [Foo] Madonna but Madonna and Child with Saints [Foo] and [Bar] (or one of any number of variations on this). So, again, what would be inaccurate about Madonna and Child with Saints Luke and Catherine of Alexandria being at Category:Paintings of the Madonna and Child by Titian, Category:Paintings depicting Luke the Evangelist and Category:Paintings of Catherine of Alexandria? Ham II (talk) 15:12, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You've made a good case, thanks, changed to Support. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about Venice
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:46, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Songs about Venice to Category:Songs about Italy
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one entry and unlikely to expland, no assistance to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 05:01, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom but also merge to Category:Works about Venice and Category:Songs about cities. Lots of subcategories of the latter may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


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History of Santa Cruz de la Sierra
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Centuries in Santa Cruz de la Sierra to Category:History of Santa Cruz de la Sierra
 * Propose merging Category:20th century in Santa Cruz de la Sierra to Category:History of Santa Cruz de la Sierra
 * Propose merging Category:21st century in Santa Cruz de la Sierra to Category:History of Santa Cruz de la Sierra
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, there are 5 articles and a subcategory in the whole tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:01, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Also Category:History of Santa Cruz de la Sierra contains no other content. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Business organizations in Austria-Hungary
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Business organizations based in Austria-Hungary to Category:Organizations based in Austria-Hungary
 * Propose deleting Category:Defunct organizations based in Austria-Hungary
 * Propose deleting Category:History of organizations based in Austria-Hungary
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layers, with one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia requests related to devices
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:49, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Wikipedia requests related to devices to Category:Wikipedia technical requests
 * Nominator's rationale: Better name. A "device" makes me think of a mobile device. The two members of this category, "requested templates" and "bot requests", have nothing to do with devices or mobile devices. – Novem Linguae (talk) 03:46, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Might be merged to Category:Wikipedia requests, in its current state it is a redundant category layer with only one page and one subcategory. Otherwise support rename to clarify its purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:47, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is also a good idea. Thanks for suggesting it. – Novem Linguae (talk) 09:39, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge I concur that there is no useful distinction between this category and its parent. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge. (OP changing my !vote.) I'm fine with a merge. Let's do that instead. – Novem Linguae (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


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