Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 26



Category:People educated at St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, the category has been renamed at WP:CFDS (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People educated at St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh to Category:People educated at St
 * Nominator's rationale: Gaois (talk) 22:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - this is at speedy with the correct target and rationale. Suggest this be closed (as it is an obvious speedy). Oculi (talk) 12:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People educated at St. Paul's High School, Bessbrook

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, the category has been renamed at WP:CFDS (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People educated at St. Paul's High School, Bessbrook to Category:People educated at St
 * Nominator's rationale: Gaois (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - this is at speedy with the correct target and rationale. Suggest this be closed (as it is an obvious speedy). Oculi (talk) 12:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Civil parishes in Milton Keynes Borough

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  13:03, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Civil parishes in Milton Keynes Borough to Category:Civil parishes in Buckinghamshire
 * Nominator's rationale: Subdividing categories outside Greater London should probably generally only be done at ceremonial county level and town/city or other well known features not district level even if the district is a UA. Most readers will only know the ceremonial county a parish is in and not its district so its generally far easier to find what you're looking for if subdividing only by ceremonial county rather than by district as well. These should be added to Category:Milton Keynes if not already in Category:Areas of Milton Keynes. Most of the entries probably come from the nestled Template:Milton Keynes parishes. The author has agreed with my suggestion for merging, see User talk:Crouch, Swale but as it was created back in 2006 it may well need discussion.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * At the time, the Buckinghamshire article was almost exclusively about that part of the county (about $3/4$) controlled by the then Buckinghamshire County Council. So to put the CPs in BoMK into that category was misleading. In April 2020, the position was more-or-less clarified by the Government's creation of an new Unitary Authority (Buckinghamshire Council, so still rather ambiguous) and the article split into (a) the overall [ceremonial] county, with two UAs and (b) separate articles for each of those UAs. So merging the categories seems a logical follow-through to that split. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * In case it is not obvious from that comment, I support the RtM. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:56, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support, on the basis of consistency, most under Civil parishes in England by county do not contain sub-categories for their districts, with all parishes under the ceremonial county. Although with the exception of Basingstoke and Deane, City of Winchester, Borough of Ashford, Harborough District, Warrington and South Hams for some reason, just pointing that out. Ceremonial counties are more likely to be known than its districts, which can change over time, so having it under ceremonial seems more beneficial to the reader. Many Thanks  Dank  Jae  22:29, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support, because (firstly) as others have mentioned, most non-London sub-categories are only done at the ceremonial county level, and thus for consistency's sake, it makes sense for the same to apply to the BoMK CPs. Secondly, general usage of the term "Buckinghamshire" is understood to include the settlements in the Borough of MK and even WP acknowledges this (e.g., List of places in Buckinghamshire, Places of interest in Buckinghamshire), and so it would be confusing as to why the BoMK's CPs are not listed under the Buckinghamshire category; in addition, non-local people probably wouldn't associate the areas of the Borough which are not urban (e.g., Lavendon, Tyringham and Filgrave) with "Milton Keynes," and are more likely to directly associate those settlements with Buckinghamshire as a whole, so a merge would remove any potential ambiguity. Anonymous MK2006 (talk) 09:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep -- Milton Keynes is a unitary council, so that being part of Buckinghamshire is merely historic: Buckinghamshire County Council has no authority there. With 45 parishes there is ample content for a separate category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:01, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It is current just like Civil parishes in Bedfordshire/Category:Civil parishes in Bedfordshire, see Ceremonial counties of England.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:40, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support the merger, it is better to categorize by ceremonial county rather than by shire county. --Privybst (talk) 20:13, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:War on I-4

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:27, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting war on i-4
 * Nominator's rationale: It's a category that's the name of an all-sports rivalry between the University of South Florida and the University of Central Florida, but it's completely unnecessary. It will never be populated sufficiently because of its over-specificity / limited growth potential. Plus, take a look at its parent category Category:College sports rivalries in the United States – there are only conference-level subcats, no other schools-specific subcats exist (nor should they). SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:23, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 23:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Province of Brandenburg
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Category:Iranian heads of Judicial System

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:28, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting iranian heads of judicial system
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. This is an old ambiguous page created in 2004, and we have since added the more specific Category:Ministers of Justice of Iran and Category:Chief Justices of Iran, which already hold Beheshti, Davar, Hashemi Shahroudi, Mousavi Ardebili and Yazdi. A previous merger proposal failed, but in any case the other member pages do not belong: Jamshidi (spokesman for judiciary), Mortazavi (Prosecutor General), Tashkiri (cleric and diplomat). I would normality prefer to rename such a veritable relic over one of the newer pages, but it is ten years too late for that. We could disambiguate it, but I don't see much point in that. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, as such it is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * do you perhaps have some further input? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pinging me. I don't. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:53, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Alumni of the University of Malta
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