Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 29



Category:Sons of landlords

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sons of landlords
 * Nominator's rationale: I think we can all agree that being the son (or daughter) of a landlord is not a defining characteristic. Pichpich (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete This is both not a defining characteristic and woefully incomplete in having one entry. There's far more notable people who are the children of landlords who I can think of. Regardless, delete as a non-defining characteristic. TartarTorte 23:20, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not defining. Bearcat (talk) 23:33, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not defining, per WP:INHERIT. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Not a defining characteristic. Why is most of the Trump family not in it?  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about Ethiopian anticolonial resistance

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  czar  20:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs about ethiopian anticolonial resistance
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, very narrow topic, we do not even have Category:Ethopian anticolonial resistance. The article is already in Category:Ethiopian songs, I cannot think of a suitable merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete The extremely narrow scope makes it unlikely that this category will ever grow. Pichpich (talk) 21:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Too specific. We do not even have Category:songs about Ethiopian history.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:PATCO Speedline stations in Pennsylvania

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  13:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:PATCO Speedline stations in Pennsylvania to Category:PATCO Speedline stations in Philadelphia
 * Nominator's rationale: While they are in Pennsylvania, they are specifically in Philadelphia and the train terminates well within Philadelphia, so arguing for a rename to be more precise. TartarTorte 18:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support -- not just per nom, but due to a similar case with the Category:PATH stations in Manhattan. It's clear there are no plans by the Delaware River Port Authority to extend the line outside of Philadelphia. -User:DanTD (talk) 19:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per above. --Privybst (talk) 09:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about the Battle of Adwa

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  czar  20:17, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs about the battle of adwa
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT with little chance to expand. Newly created. Richhoncho (talk) 17:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. I created ironically for the song "Tikur Sew" by Teddy Afro and this article seems the only premise that has about the Battle of Adwa in the meantime. Other related songs may be created if there are established reliable sources in the web, but it takes a lot of time awaiting releases as time progresses, and to expand. For meanwhile, the category should kept as delete  unless it fulfill the criteria mentioned above. The Supermind (talk) 17:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, though it may be merged to Category:Songs about the military. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The extremely narrow scope makes it unlikely that this category will ever grow. Pichpich (talk) 21:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Too specific. We do not even have Category:songs about Ethiopian history.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Marvel Studios Animation

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Animated series produced by Marvel Studios. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:11, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Marvel Studios Animation to Category:Animated series produced by Marvel Studios
 * Nominator's rationale: Per discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Marvel Cinematic Universe task force, this was named as if it was an official division of Marvel Studios, which is not the case. Per the linked discussion, it is a valid category grouping, but the name is incorrect and thus should be renamed to "Animated series produced by Marvel Studios" as proposed. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom and discussion. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:41, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom the discussion -- Zoo (talk) 15:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll settle. However, I can't exactly rename/move categories myself. So can please someone do it for me? MegaSmike46 (talk) 16:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Many users don't have the ability to make proper category moves, and this isn't expected to be on you to do this. Once this discussion is closed, all the work will be done to properly move the category. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional quasi-deities and demigods
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  13:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional quasi-deities and demigods to Category:Fictional demigods
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category, as far as I can tell it has no difference to its parent category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:04, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, I do not know on what basis articles were collected in this category, but they are not clearly fictional quasi-deities or demigods. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Redundant at best, ambiguous at worst. Jontesta (talk) 21:43, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Vaguely defined category with no discernible topic at all, and which possibly lumps multiple topics including demigod into one. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:48, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Submerged settlements in Ukraine
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Category:Gandhian Philosophy
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  08:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Gandhism.  czar  20:10, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Gandhian Philosophy to Category:Gandhism
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, the two categories presumably have the same scope. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * Support merge per nom. Gandhian philosophy redirects to Gandhism.  It's hard to justify a separate category when we don't have a main article at that title. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 17:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Gandhians
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.  czar  20:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting gandhians
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, adherent of Ghandism is not a defining characteristic. It is incomparable to e.g. Marxists because for the latter we have articles about professional Marxist philosophers. Most people in the category are only loosely associated with Gandhi because they symphatized with him or because they were fellow independence activists.

This category was restored after soft deletion in this discussion as requested by User:Arms & Hearts. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  08:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and prune. We certainly have articles on people who made a career out of Gandhian thought and practice: see for example Richard Gregg (social philosopher), Geoffrey Ostergaard, arguably Martin Luther King Jr. and others who followed in his footsteps, various people associated with the University of Bradford Department of Peace Studies, and so on. I agree with the nominator that the category's been applied too broadly, and that we ought to use it only in relation to people who identified with the idea(s) of Gandhism, rather than the related but distinct Indian independence movement or those associated with Gandhi in other ways, but that's a surmountable problem. (See also my comments at WP:REFUND in response to the arguments of the previous nomination.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep, as Arms & Hearts says, Gandhism, as pertaining to those who followed the at-the-time unique pathway of nonviolent change shown and followed by Mohandas Gandhi, is both real and a definable trait. The 1960s Civil Rights Movement was largely based on techniques and philosophy first tested and experimented on by Gandhi, and many of the extremely key participants first tested Gandhi's thoughts during the Nashville Student Movement where they studied Gandhism as taught to them by James Lawson and by direct immersion in Gandhi's writings (newspapers, papers, texts) placed within a local college library. The term and category have true basis in fact, and they capture the main participants of those who effectively used their knowledge of the ways and words of Mohandas Gandhi to alter and steer national and international cultural norms. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are plenty of reliably published books that recognise Ghandians as a category . <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 17:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


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Former populated places in Ukraine by region‎
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 6%23Former populated places in Ukraine by region‎

Category:Mexicali Aquilas players
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