Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 17



Category:Seljuq generals

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all three. (non-admin closure)  JBchrch   talk  23:11, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Seljuq generals to Category:Generals of the Seljuk Empire
 * Propose renaming Category:Seljuq government officials to Category:Government officials of the Seljuk Empire
 * Propose renaming Category:Seljuq scholars to Category:Scholars of the Seljuk Empire
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to avoid ambiguity. The current name may suggest these are generals of the Seljuk dynasty (which they are not). The rename is comparable to e.g. Category:Civil servants of the Ottoman Empire and Category:Philosophers of the Ottoman Empire. Minor detail: Seljuk should be with a k instead of q per article title Seljuk Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Category:Seljuq generals to Category:Seljuk generals
 * Category:Seljuq government officials to Category:Seljuk government officials
 * Category:Seljuq scholars to Category:Seljuk scholars
 * Oppose speedy on these 3 subcats: shouldn't the new cats all have "Empire" to qualify for C2C/C2D viz. Category:Seljuk Empire/Seljuk Empire? UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support -- Seljuk (warlord) was the founder of a dynasty. it is thus (like Ottoman) imappropriate to trat it as if it were a demonym.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:56, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom's convincing argument.-- Mvqr (talk) 11:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Council of Ministers of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to Category:Ministers plenipotentiary (Netherlands)
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, both categories mainly contain the different ministers plenipotentiary. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Category:Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to Category:Council of Ministers of the Kingdom of the Netherlands – C2D. Heanor (talk) 14:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Ministers plenipotentiary (Netherlands) per WP:OVERLAPCAT. But that is not speediable of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Ministers plenipotentiary (Netherlands) per WP:OVERLAPCAT. But that is not speediable of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose the target should instead be Category:Council of Ministers of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (which is currently a speedy nom). This consists of the Prime Minsiter of the Netherlands and Ministers plenipotentiary of various former Dutch colonies.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * But then reverse merge, because WP:OVERLAPCAT stays applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose nominator and Support proposal of Peterkingiron. --Just N. (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:El Capitan Theatre premieres

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted per G7. (non-admin closure) Chompy Ace 23:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting el capitan theatre premieres
 * Nominator's rationale: Having a premiere at a specific venue, is not notable. See a relevant discussion at WT:FILM here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete SlySabre (talk) 20:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Chompy Ace 23:21, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Films about red

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films about red
 * Propose deleting films about pink
 * Nominator's rationale: These films are not about a color. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Mixture of WP:OCTRIVIA and WP:SHAREDNAME. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 05:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 10:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - violates WP:NONDEF and WP:SHAREDNAME. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Roads in Yarmouth, Maine

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Roads in Yarmouth, Maine to Category:Roads in Maine
 * Nominator's rationale: Also merge to . This small town has only 2 notable roads and is unlikely to have significantly more in the near future. User:Namiba 15:08, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Virtualization software
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Category:Redistricting

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Redistricting to Category:Redistricting in the United States. Note that Marcocapelle has already gone ahead and restructured the category hierarchy per the discussion.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:23, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose rescoping redistricting
 * Propose rescoping electoral redistributions
 * Propose merging redistricting in the united states with the rescoped redistricting
 * Nominator's rationale: This category and category:Electoral redistributions are confused, partly the wrong way round and partly duplicative of each other and Category:Redistricting in the United States. The term "redistricting" is the term used in the United States for what other countries call "reapportionment" or other terms, so Category:Electoral redistributions should be the top level, with a merged category:Redistricting and category:Redistricting in the United States below that (I don't have a preference on the name). The Gerrymandering and Redistribution Commissions sub-categories and Redistribution (election) and Redistricting commission articles currently in Category:Redistricting should be moved to be members of Category:Electoral redistributions, the other members of that category deal exclusively with the United States so should go to the merged US category. I'd appreciate it if someone could check whether I've done all the nominations correctly, this is the most complicated CfD I've attempted. Thryduulf (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge Category:Redistricting to Category:Redistricting in the United States. Redistricting is trying to be worldwide, but is actually wholly about the US system.  In my country (UK) there are periodically Boundary Commissions that do a similar job; and no doubt other countries do something similar.  Category:Electoral redistributions should be the parent, with Category:Redistricting in the United States as its child.  The term redistricting appears to be unique to US, so that this is not a case of the usual ENGVAR issue.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:11, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Downmerge per Peterkingiron. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fantastic Fest alumni

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fantastic fest alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining. Fantastic Fest screens dozens of films each year. That they "attended and presented films" at the festival doesn't tell you much about the "filmmakers and performers". Nardog (talk) 11:55, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Not sure how to phrase this exactly, but I created the category because Fantastic Fest is -- as the biggest genre film festival in the U.S. -- a very significant event for the scene, and often career-defining. ☆☆☆ interstellarpoliceman ☆☆☆ 12:54, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * So is Sundance. So is Cannes. So is Sitges. But we don't have similar categories for them. "Attended and presented" is WP:NONDEFINING. The list would be enormous and useless, especially if you include performers. Nardog (talk) 08:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see your point. Agreed. ☆☆☆ interstellarpoliceman ☆☆☆ 15:20, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Grenz (talk) 08:19, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete due to no indication that Fantastic Fest "breakthroughs" (a better word than "alumni" here) is noteworthy to have its own category. I'm not even sure if there could be good criteria to define what makes a person "break through". Winning awards? Getting their film acquired for commercial distribution? Getting lots of good reviews? Do second-time appearances at a festival count for "breaking through"? "Alumni" by itself is way too vague and easily means anyone who has ever had a film screened at the given festival. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 14:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a defining characteristic of an individual. We do not categorize based on meta analyses. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT history in the United States by region
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Template:Chef-bio-stub

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Template:Chef-stub. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  12:08, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Template:Chef-bio-stub to Template:Chef-stub
 * Nominator's rationale: Twinkle is telling me to use CfD for stub templates, but the options it gives me are rename or delete. Really, I'm proposing to merge these two since both templates populate the same category, and any chef stubs are already bio stubs.  The only difference I can see is the hierarchy table, which is what can be merged. - 2pou (talk) 22:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Agree with nom. A chef is a person, so it cannot be any other thing but a bio. Gonnym (talk) 19:55, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


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