Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 23



Category:Organizations listed as a U. S. foreign agent

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Organizations listed by the United States as foreign agents.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Organizations listed as a U. S. foreign agent to Category:Organizations listed as a foreign agent in the United States Category:Organizations listed in the United States as foreign agents.
 * Nominator's rationale: The wording "U.S. foreign agent" is misleading, especially that the "foreign agent" label is also applied to entities operating in Russia. Additionally, the U. S. spelling violates MOS. I'm proposing a rename to a less ambiguous name. — kashmīrī  TALK  21:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I created a category, but named it rather clumsily. Support, although maybe one should name it Category:Organizations listed in the United States as foreign agents, similarly with Category:Organizations listed in Russia as foreign agents. Wikisaurus (talk) 21:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Your version reads even better. — kashmīrī  TALK  21:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Question should it not be Category:Organizations listed by the United States as foreign agents. This is a category for those designated by the government.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree, "by" is more appropriate than "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 21:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


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All subcategories in Category:Law by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming All subcategories in Category:Law by country - like Category:United States law to Category:Law of the United States etc.
 * Category:Abkhazian law‎ to Category:Law of Abkhazia
 * Category:Afghan law‎ to Category:Law of Afghanistan
 * Category:Albanian law‎ to Category:Law of Albania
 * Category:Algerian law to Category:Law of Algeria
 * Category:Andorran law‎ to Category:Law of Andorra
 * Category:Angolan law‎ to Category:Law of Angola
 * Category:Antigua and Barbuda law‎ to Category:Law of Antigua and Barbuda
 * Category:Argentine law to Category:Law of Argentina
 * Category:Armenian law‎ to Category:Law of Armenia
 * Category:Australian law‎ to Category:Law of Australia
 * Category:Austrian law‎ to Category:Law of Austria
 * Category:Azerbaijani law‎ to Category:Law of Azerbaijan
 * Category:Bahamian law‎ to Category:Law of the Bahamas
 * Category:Bahraini law‎ to Category:Law of Bahrain
 * Category:Bangladeshi law to Category:Law of Bangladesh
 * Category:Barbadian law‎ to Category:Law of Barbados
 * Category:Belarusian law‎ to Category:Law of Belarus
 * Category:Belgian law‎ to Category:Law of Belgium
 * Category:Belizean law‎ to Category:Law of Belize
 * Category:Beninese law‎ to Category:Law of Benin
 * Category:Bhutanese law‎ to Category:Law of Bhutan
 * Category:Bissau-Guinean law‎ to Category:Law of Guinea-Bissau
 * Category:Bolivian law to Category:Law of Bolivia
 * Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina law to Category:Law of Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Category:Botswana law to Category:Law of Botswana
 * Category:Brazilian law‎ to Category:Law of Brazil
 * Category:Bruneian law to Category:Law of Brunei
 * Category:Bulgarian law‎ to Category:Law of Bulgaria
 * Category:Burkinabé law‎ to Category:Law of Burkina Faso
 * Category:Burmese law‎ to Category:Law of Myanmar
 * Category:Burundian law to Category:Law of Burundi
 * Category:Cambodian law to Category:Law of Cambodia
 * Category:Cameroonian law‎ to Category:Law of Cameroon
 * Category:Canadian law to Category:Law of Canada
 * Category:Cape Verdean law to Category:Law of Cape Verde
 * Category:Central African Republic law‎ to Category:Law of the Central African Republic
 * Category:Chadian law‎ to Category:Law of Chad
 * Category:Chilean law‎ to Category:Law of Chile
 * Category:Colombian law‎ to Category:Law of Colombia
 * Category:Comorian law‎ to Category:Law of the Comoros
 * Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo law to Category:Law of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
 * Category:Republic of the Congo law to Category:Law of the Republic of the Congo
 * Category:Costa Rican law‎ to Category:Law of Costa Rica
 * Category:Croatian law‎ to Category:Law of Croatia
 * Category:Cuban law to Category:Law of Cuba
 * Category:Cypriot law to Category:Law of Cyprus
 * Category:Czech law to Category:Law of the Czech Republic
 * Category:Danish law‎ to Category:Law of Denmark
 * Category:Djiboutian law‎ to Category:Law of Djibouti
 * Category:Dominica law‎ to Category:Law of Dominica
 * Category:Dominican Republic law to Category:Law of the Dominican Republic
 * Category:Dutch law‎ to Category:Law of the Netherlands
 * Category:East Timorese law to Category:Law of East Timor
 * Category:Ecuadorian law‎ to Category:Law of Ecuador
 * Category:Egyptian law‎ to Category:Law of Egypt
 * Category:Emirati law‎ to Category:Law of the United Arab Emirates
 * Category:Equatoguinean law‎ to Category:Law of Equatorial Guinea
 * Category:Eritrean law‎ to Category:Law of Eritrea
 * Category:Estonian law to Category:Law of Estonia
 * Category:Ethiopian law‎ to Category:Law of Ethiopia
 * Category:Fijian law to Category:Law of Fiji
 * Category:Finnish law to Category:Law of Finland
 * Category:French law‎ to Category:Law of France
 * Category:Gabonese law‎ to Category:Law of Gabon
 * Category:Gambian law to Category:Law of the Gambia
 * Category:Law in Georgia (country) to Category:Law of Georgia (country)
 * Category:German law to Category:Law of Germany
 * Category:Ghanaian law‎ to Category:Law of Ghana
 * Category:Greek law‎ to Category:Law of Greece
 * Category:Grenadian law‎ to Category:Law of Grenada
 * Category:Guatemalan law‎ to Category:Law of Guatemala
 * Category:Guinean law‎ to Category:Law of Guinea
 * Category:Guyanese law to Category:Law of Guyana
 * Category:Haitian law‎ to Category:Law of Haiti
 * Category:Honduran law to Category:Law of Honduras
 * Category:Hungarian law‎ to Category:Law of Hungary
 * Category:Icelandic law to Category:Law of Iceland
 * Category:Law in India to Category:Law of India
 * Category:Indonesian law‎ to Category:Law of Indonesia
 * Category:Iranian law to Category:Law of Iran
 * Category:Iraqi law‎ to Category:Law of Iraq
 * Category:Law in the Republic of Ireland‎ to Category:Law of the Republic of Ireland
 * Category:Israeli law to Category:Law of Israel
 * Category:Italian law‎ to Category:Law of Italy
 * Category:Ivorian law to Category:Law of Ivory Coast
 * Category:Jamaican law to Category:Law of Jamaica
 * Category:Japanese law‎ to Category:Law of Japan
 * Category:Jordanian law‎ to Category:Law of Jordan
 * Category:Kazakhstani law‎ to Category:Law of Kazakhstan
 * Category:Kenyan law to Category:Law of Kenya
 * Category:Kiribati law to Category:Law of Kiribati
 * Category:Kosovan law to Category:Law of Kosovo
 * Category:Kuwaiti law‎ to Category:Law of Kuwait
 * Category:Kyrgyzstani law‎ to Category:Law of Kyrgyzstan
 * Category:Laotian law‎ to Category:Law of Laos
 * Category:Latvian law to Category:Law of Latvia
 * Category:Lebanese law‎ to Category:Law of Lebanon
 * Category:Lesotho law‎ to Category:Law of Lesotho
 * Category:Liberian law to Category:Law of Liberia
 * Category:Libyan law‎ to Category:Law of Libya
 * Category:Liechtenstein law‎ to Category:Law of Liechtenstein
 * Category:Lithuanian law to Category:Law of Lithuania
 * Category:Luxembourgian law‎ to Category:Law of Luxembourg
 * Category:Malagasy law‎ to Category:Law of Madagascar
 * Category:Malawian law‎ to Category:Law of Malawi
 * Category:Malaysian law‎ to Category:Law of Malaysia
 * Category:Maldivian law‎ to Category:Law of the Maldives
 * Category:Malian law‎ to Category:Law of Mali
 * Category:Maltese law to Category:Law of Malta
 * Category:Marshallese law‎ to Category:Law of the Marshall Islands
 * Category:Mauritanian law‎ to Category:Law of Mauritania
 * Category:Mauritian law to Category:Law of Mauritius
 * Category:Mexican law‎ to Category:Law of Mexico
 * Category:Federated States of Micronesia law‎ to Category:Law of the Federated States of Micronesia
 * Category:Moldovan law‎ to Category:Law of Moldova
 * Category:Monegasque law‎ to Category:Law of Monaco
 * Category:Mongolian law‎ to Category:Law of Mongolia
 * Category:Montenegrin law‎ to Category:Law of Montenegro
 * Category:Moroccan law‎ to Category:Law of Morocco
 * Category:Mozambican law‎ to Category:Law of Mozambique
 * Category:Namibian law‎ to Category:Law of Namibia
 * Category:Nauruan law to Category:Law of Nauru
 * Category:Nepalese law‎ to Category:Law of Nepal
 * Category:New Zealand law to Category:Law of New Zealand
 * Category:Nicaraguan law to Category:Law of Nicaragua
 * Category:Nigerian law‎ to Category:Law of Nigeria
 * Category:Nigerien law‎ to Category:Law of Niger
 * Category:Niuean law‎ to Category:Law of Niue
 * Category:North Korean law‎ to Category:Law of North Korea
 * Category:North Macedonia law‎ to Category:Law of North Macedonia
 * Category:Norwegian law to Category:Law of Norway
 * Category:Omani law‎ to Category:Law of Oman
 * Category:Pakistani law‎ to Category:Law of Pakistan
 * Category:Palauan law‎ to Category:Law of Palau
 * Category:Panamanian law‎ to Category:Law of Panama
 * Category:Papua New Guinean law‎ to Category:Law of Papua New Guinea
 * Category:Paraguayan law to Category:Law of Paraguay
 * Category:Peruvian law‎ to Category:Law of Peru
 * Category:Philippine law‎ to Category:Law of the Philippines
 * Category:Polish law‎ to Category:Law of Poland
 * Category:Portuguese law‎ to Category:Law of Portugal
 * Category:Qatari law‎ to Category:Law of Qatar
 * Category:Romanian law‎ to Category:Law of Romania
 * Category:Russian law‎ to Category:Law of Russia
 * Category:Rwandan law‎ to Category:Law of Rwanda
 * Category:Sahrawi law‎ to Category:Law of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic
 * Category:Saint Kitts and Nevis law‎ to Category:Law of Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Category:Saint Lucian law‎ to Category:Law of Saint Lucia
 * Category:Saint Vincent and the Grenadines law‎ to Category:Law of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
 * Category:Salvadoran law‎ to Category:Law of El Salvador
 * Category:Samoan law to Category:Law of Samoa
 * Category:Sammarinese law‎ to Category:Law of San Marino
 * Category:São Tomé and Príncipe law‎ to Category:Law of São Tomé and Príncipe
 * Category:Saudi Arabian law to Category:Law of Saudi Arabia
 * Category:Senegalese law to Category:Law of Senegal
 * Category:Serbian law to Category:Law of Serbia
 * Category:Seychellois law‎ to Category:Law of the Seychelles
 * Category:Sierra Leonean law to Category:Law of Sierra Leone
 * Category:Singaporean law to Category:Law of Singapore
 * Category:Slovak law to Category:Law of Slovakia
 * Category:Slovenian law to Category:Law of Slovenia
 * Category:Solomon Islands law to Category:Law of the Solomon Islands
 * Category:Somalian law to Category:Law of Somalia
 * Category:Somaliland law to Category:Law of Somaliland
 * Category:South African law to Category:Law of South Africa
 * Category:South Korean law to Category:Law of South Korea
 * Category:South Sudanese law to Category:Law of South Sudan
 * Category:Spanish law to Category:Law of Spain
 * Category:Sri Lankan law to Category:Law of Sri Lanka
 * Category:Sudanese law to Category:Law of Sudan
 * Category:Surinamese law to Category:Law of Suriname
 * Category:Swazi law to Category:Law of Eswatini
 * Category:Swedish law to Category:Law of Sweden
 * Category:Swiss law to Category:Law of Switzerland
 * Category:Syrian law to Category:Law of Syria
 * Category:Taiwanese law to Category:Law of Taiwan
 * Category:Tajikistani law to Category:Law of Tajikistan
 * Category:Tanzanian law to Category:Law of Tanzania
 * Category:Thai law to Category:Law of Thailand
 * Category:Togolese law to Category:Law of Togo
 * Category:Tongan law to Category:Law of Tonga
 * Category:Transnistrian law to Category:Law of Transnistria
 * Category:Trinidad and Tobago law to Category:Law of Trinidad and Tobago
 * Category:Tunisian law to Category:Law of Tunisia
 * Category:Turkish Cypriot law to Category:Law of Northern Cyprus
 * Category:Turkish law to Category:Law of Turkey
 * Category:Turkmenistan law to Category:Law of Turkmenistan
 * Category:Tuvaluan law to Category:Law of Tuvalu
 * Category:Ugandan law to Category:Law of Uganda
 * Category:Ukrainian law to Category:Law of Ukraine
 * Category:United States law to Category:Law of the United States
 * Category:Uruguayan law to Category:Law of Uruguay
 * Category:Uzbekistani law to Category:Law of Uzbekistan
 * Category:Vanuatuan law to Category:Law of Vanuatu
 * Category:Vatican City law to Category:Law of Vatican City
 * Category:Venezuelan law to Category:Law of Venezuela
 * Category:Vietnamese law to Category:Law of Vietnam
 * Category:Yemeni law to Category:Law of Yemen
 * Category:Zambian law to Category:Law of Zambia
 * Category:Zimbabwean law to Category:Law of Zimbabwe
 * Nominator's rationale: After Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 15 I realize that the use of demonyms in categories is a bad idea. Thus I propose to rename all subcategories in Category:Law by country. pinging editors from the old discussion. Thesmp (talk) 16:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment: that's a big project. Have a think about "in" or "of", which is currently inconsistent both within and within e.g. .  – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a single law "of" the United Kingdom given that there are three different legal jurisdictions (England & Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) so I would suggest "in". This would also account for any other country with multiple jurisdictions and for laws that are more localised than an entire country or jurisdiction. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * When I said it's a big project, I was thinking of the further layers e.g. within Category:Law by country by year, and within Category:Law by issue and country (which mostly use "in").
 * thanks for tagging the layer that you proposed. If this gains support, please also list them with target names, as the list will be needed to implement the decision. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Previous CfD at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 2. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support, following naming convention in article space e.g. Law of the United States. After 7 years, since the previous discussion, the article still has not changed its name, so that it can be regarded a stable name. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename but to Category:Law in the United States etc. The US has well over 50 jurisdictions each with its own law - Federal law, law of to States and about 6 districts and territories.  Similarly UK has 3 (or 4) jurisdictions each with its own law.  Category:Law of France would be OK, as I think it has a single law code.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Law of the United States comprises both federal law and state law, so "of" is correct here. This may be different in the United Kingdom though. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support the rename of the subcategories for countries that are presently sovereign states (therefore not including provinces, dependencies or former countries), such as Category:French law, to Category:Law of France etc (using the English short name of those countries). These categories are supposed to be categories for the law of particular countries. Some of them, however, have names that seem to refer to the law of places (such as former colonies) that do not seem to be part of those countries. For example, a number of sources say that there is "French law" in Louisiana  and Quebec  . The existing Category:French law should be renamed to Category:Law of France. Then any articles that we have about "French law" in Louisiana or Quebec or (presumably) former colonies of France etc should be placed in the new Category:French law. If no such articles yet exist, then Category:French law should be redirected to Category:Law of France until such articles are created. Similarly, other sources say that there is "Spanish law" in Texas, and, accordingly, we should deal with Category:Spanish law in the same way. Someone would need to actually carry out any reorganization that would be rendered necessary by the renames. I suspect that this would require a large amount of careful examination of sources to determine exactly what should be included in what category. I oppose Peterkingiron's proposal for similar reasons to those that I gave at the previous CfD that began on 15 February. James500 (talk) 06:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per Marcocapelle and James500. Also because I listed all target names. If you agree in principle, but do not agree on any country, then cross it out, then we can discuss those separately. --Heanor (talk) 16:38, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support, specifically because the articles are at Law of the United States and Law of France which is a clear C2D. Support moving to the same title and not picking and choosing which go where. Also, note that both France and the UK (Law of the United Kingdom) have their articles as "Law of...". --Gonnym (talk) 08:27, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Australian politicians of Sri Lankan descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian politicians of sri lankan descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and upmerge to Category:Australian people of Sri Lankan descent. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge but also to Category:Australian politicians of Asian descent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Australian politicians of Korean descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian politicians of korean descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and upmerge to Category:Australian people of Korean descent. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge but also to Category:Australian politicians of Asian descent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Australian politicians of Iranian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian politicians of iranian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and upmerge to Category:Australian people of Iranian descent. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge but also to Category:Australian politicians of Asian descent. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People from Perryville, Maryland

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 * The result of the discussion was: soft merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Perryville, Maryland to Category:People from Cecil County, Maryland
 * Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just two entries. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I have added a list of the current members at Perryville,_Maryland. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Naturalised tennis players of Italy

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all.  bibliomaniac  1  5  03:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: No need for such a specific category. Same applies for the other subcategories of Category:Naturalised tennis players by nationality. Nehme1499 19:25, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Adding siblings. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:29, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Naturalised tennis players of Italy to Category:Naturalised citizens of Italy, Category:Naturalised tennis players (second target added on relisting)
 * Propose merging Category:Naturalised tennis players of Australia to Category:Naturalised citizens of Australia, Category:Naturalised tennis players (added on relisting)
 * Propose merging Category:Naturalised tennis players of Kazakhstan to Category:Naturalised citizens of Kazakhstan, Category:Naturalised tennis players (added on relisting)
 * Support. Also upmerge to Category:Naturalised tennis players, which I have just created (cf Category:Naturalised table tennis players). Oculi (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I also looked at the sibling Australian category, which is even better populated. In both cases there are sufficient people to make a category with more than the accepted minimum of 5 articles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete the intersection of having a change in nationality status and playing tennis is not defining. This merges two uncoonected things into one category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Peterkingiron. --Just N. (talk) 14:25, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge as a trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:States with limited recognition

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:States with limited recognition to Category:De facto states
 * Nominator's rationale: I propose to rename not only this categories, but all subcategories. Now this categories also includes UN member states not recognised by at least one UN member state, i. e. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas. But subcategories are mostly only for de facto states, this branch are parallel to Category:Categories by country for UN member states. Thesmp (talk) 08:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose It directly states at the top of the category that: "The main article for this category is List of states with limited recognition." Renaming it to Category:De facto states would not make any sense, as the only entries within the category are "states with limited recognition", as the article defines them. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea are all within the present category anyway. De facto states, as an article, does not even exist, and the De facto state page is just a redirect to the aforementioned list article. Propose renaming the article before proposing that the category gets renamed. - Wiz9999 (talk) 10:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Wiz9999, I didn't get my point, I'm perfectly OK with the title List of states with limited recognition. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea shoule be in this list because they enjoy only limited recognition. I'm talking about subcategories of Category:States with limited recognition, i. e. Category:Coats of arms of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states, Category:Constitutions of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states, Category:Geography by states with limited recognition‎ etc. Should they contain all states with limited recognition, including Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas? --Thesmp (talk) 10:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea are all states with limited recognition. This wording: "of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states" is from an old category (Category:Unrecognized or largely unrecognized states) that was recently put up for deletion, as all its entries were migrated into the more appropriately worded Category:States with limited recognition. If anything, it's all those subcategories that need renaming now, to "of states with limited recognition". - Wiz9999 (talk) 10:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose Agree with Wiz9999, apart from points made by him, it is clear that Israel and China, for example, are de jure states and not merely de facto. It is better to follow the main article divisions for these things without further subdivision.Selfstudier (talk) 11:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Wiz9999, Selfstudier I do not insist, that it is why I opened this discussion. Just to clarify what I proposed: rename category and remove Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas from it and all subcategories. --Thesmp (talk) 12:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I understood, not needed though.Selfstudier (talk) 13:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The current category name captures the intended meaning very well. "De facto", on the other hand, would be fairly confusing. — kashmīrī  <sup style="color:#80f;font:'Candara';">TALK  21:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the current title is fine, per WP:BROKE. As mentioned above "de facto" could be confusing in some situations. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 03:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose, outside maybe the occasional edge case, most states are de facto states, so this isn't the best name for the category. CMD (talk) 08:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep but remove Armenia, China (which links to PRC), both Koreas, Israel and Cyprus, all of which are widely (though perhaps not universally) recognised. This will leave breakaway states such as Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, and Transnistria which exist in a sort of diplomatic limbo.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:11, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


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