Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 9



Category:People from Akiak, Alaska

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: Delete all, but I will leave Category:Adak, Alaska which has 4 pages and has not been tagged. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Akiak, Alaska to Category:People from Bethel Census Area, Alaska
 * Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, it is a 350 person village so expected to remain small.-- Mvqr (talk) 14:47, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all of the following:
 * Category:Adak, Alaska
 * Category:Akiak, Alaska
 * Category:Allakaket, Alaska
 * Category:Anaktuvuk Pass, Alaska
 * Category:People from Adak, Alaska
 * Category:People from Akiak, Alaska
 * Category:People from Allakaket, Alaska
 * Category:People from Anaktuvuk Pass, Alaska
 * There's no need to have three separate micro-discussions which combined fail to address the breadth of the problem. The biographical cats were all created by the same (at the time, fairly new) editor as vanity categories to account for an incidental intersection and fail WP:CATDEFINING.  Of the four biographies contained in these four categories, only Dennis Schmitt comes anywhere near close to having his notability defined by his association with the place.  The notability of Nora Guinn and Jay Ramras are both plainly defined by their association with other places.  The parent cats were all created weeks after the biographical cats by another editor strictly as container cats, failing to consider whether there was other eligible content (cultural or education or language topics, NRHP sites, etc.) with which to populate the cats.  Even if that effort was made, it's highly unlikely there would be enough content to justify such highly specific cats.  I'm asking for deletion rather than merging;  leaving a redirect would serve no purpose as it was a mistake to create these cats in the first place. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  12:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Seems reasonable. --Just N. (talk) 10:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, most categories to be deleted have not been tagged. It is also advisable to split the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Remember, I'm not the one who spends all my time here dealing with only one facet of the project. Having a view of the project as a whole would help to avoid running afoul of WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY, you know.  Why would we need to split the nomination?  I already explained how these useless categories have existed for years due to one editor's misbegotten notion of how categories work and another editor's lack of recognition of the first editor's intent.  The existing split of this nomination has resulted in two additional discussions which are going nowhere and another category created under the same ill pretense which wasn't nominated.  I get it that some editors really get off on having an endless array of single-entry categories, but it doesn't enhance the project. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  07:53, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Meteorology, health and behavior

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:38, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Meteorology, health and behavior to Category:Weather and health
 * Nominator's rationale: The current name looks like trivial intersection, but since there's a link between weather and health, this could be a thing. Brandmeistertalk  14:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, the articles are about health, not about behaviour. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:36, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep No meteorology would exist without social need to orient behaviour (times to harvest best; times to go for a walk w/o ice...). Don't let us pretend that this obvious connection is not basic. Behaviour is the "invisible elephant" in that field. So better keep it as it is. --Just N. (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment has nothing to do with the articles in this category. For example Lightning injury is about injury, i.e. falls under health, not under behaviour. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support It appears to me that the current members of the category are indeed about health rather than behavior. I don't know if we actually have articles that discuss relationships between behavior and weather the way a comment further up describes; it is of course of significance but the category as currently constructed does not seem to have any such articles in it. I might also argue that topics as general as best harvest times are also covered in great detail elsewhere, but that they have far less to do with behavior than they do with just when something needs done if people want to benefit from it. In that case, the connection with human behavior is so general I doubt it needs categorization. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 22:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People from Anaktuvuk Pass, Alaska

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Anaktuvuk Pass, Alaska to Category:People from North Slope Borough, Alaska
 * Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, see rationale at . RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 12:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 10:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge or delete, Dennis Schmitt appears to have lived there for four years, that may be a borderline case of having the article in a "from" category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People from Adak, Alaska

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Adak, Alaska to Category:People from Aleutians West Census Area, Alaska
 * Nominator's rationale: Small one county community with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, see rationale at . RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 12:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 10:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge, do not delete, David Vann (writer) was born there and the article does not mention whether he left at an early age, so there is not enough information to remove the article from a "from" category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century Latgalian painters

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 * The result of the discussion was: ALT merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:20th-century Latgalian painters to Category:Latgalian painters
 * Nominator's rationale: There are only 2 articles - not enough to divide by century. Rathfelder (talk) 09:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Alt merge per WP:OCEGRS (trivial intersection between occupation and ethnicity):
 * Category:Latgalian painters to Category:Latvian painters
 * Category:20th-century Latgalian painters to Category:20th-century Latvian painters
 * I will tag the first category too. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * CErtainly merge but preferably as suggested by Marcocapelle, not as nom. I had to look a long way to find what Latgale is.  It is a division of Latvia that was earlier Lithuanian and thus largely Catholic, where as the rest of Latvia is part of the former Swedish Baltic provinces and thus Lutheran.  The area was briefly independent during the break up of the Russian Empire, but incorporated into Latvia about a century ago, so that I see Latvia categories as the appropriate merge target.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Happy to agree Rathfelder (talk) 15:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Gardening portal

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:47, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Gardening portal to Category:Biology portals
 * Nominator's rationale: redundant category layer, contains only one portal. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 10:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


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