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Category:Songs written by Will Simms

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs written by will simms
 * Nominator's rationale: No article for subject, only one member. No help to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 18:28, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Nominator withdraws nomination. Now being flooded with members. --Richhoncho (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I was in the middle of saying it was a lazy nomination tbh . I have huge respect for you and generally agree with your edits. It is incumbent on all editors to search for sources and check for reliable information for inclusion before nominating for deletion. That's the last stage or thing one should do. Granted there's no article for Will, I was able to find 17 other entries within 5 minutes of a Google and discography search. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 19:13, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * , To be fair I thought I had checked when you created the cat a couple of weeks ago, but adding unreferenced redirects to redirects i.e. Glucose (song) like you are doing now is not doing your stock any good either. Nomination was my bad, some of the additions will be yours. I apologise for my bad nom here, which I corrected as soon as possible. --Richhoncho (talk) 19:19, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The reference is the release itself. Its been flagged before that retails sources should be sparsely used. There are very few unsourced redirects, the majority are part of albums and can be sourced from parent album credits. I did find 12one which is creative agency which supports Will Simms and has a mention of songs he's worked on. I also checked retail sources where they were available. If there is no article then there's no logical place to add referencing. Remember WP:AGF re: releases and sourcing. I wouldn't go out of my way to add fake entries to keep a category - I'm far too busy with GAs and FLs to make categories up/pretend they're notable. Thanks for the apol. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 19:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Nakhchivan-Maragha school of architecture
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Category:Song recordings produced by Sin
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Category:Songs written by Sin
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Category:Maluku Islands and New Guinea (Indonesia) geography stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: split and rename accordingly. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Maluku Islands and New Guinea (Indonesia) geography stubs to Category:Maluku Islands geography stubs
 * Propose splitting Category:Maluku Islands and New Guinea (Indonesia) geography stubs to Category:Western New Guinea geography stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: We should split this category. Maluku Islands and Western New Guinea are not similar areas. Furthermore title of the category violates NPOV. Sharouser (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment, the intention of the nomination is probably
 * Propose splitting Category:Maluku Islands and New Guinea (Indonesia) geography stubs to Category:Western New Guinea geography stubs and Category:Maluku Islands geography stubs
 * That sounds very reasonable, since the Maluku Islands and New Guinea are separate entities. I would recommend nominating the geography subcats for upmerging after the above split is implemented. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to split it by renaming Category:Maluku Islands and New Guinea (Indonesia) geography stubs to Category:Maluku Islands geography stubs. Sharouser (talk) 07:38, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


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British people of colonial Malaya

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename Category:British people of colonial Malaya to Category:British people in British Malaya
 * Nominator's rationale We have an article on British Malaya, so we should use that name in the category. This is a quasi-expatriate category, and in such categories we generally use the preposition "in", so I think we should here as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Should it not just people People of British Malaya? >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 20:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. For colonial people we also have e.g. Category:British people in British Burma and Category:British people in British Nigeria. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Exclude in print

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JBchrch   talk  14:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting exclude in print
 * Nominator's rationale: Long-obsolete category, see Templates for discussion/Log/2021 May 31 * Pppery * it has begun... 15:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Catholicism in Nigeria

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  15:10, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Catholicism in Nigeria to Category:Catholic Church in Nigeria
 * Nominator's rationale: The two categories are essentially identical, and for the sake of simplicity and reducing clutter it would be best for this category to be merged with Catholic Church in Nigeria. ヤクブ (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree. It makes sense. --Bduke (talk) 01:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JBchrch   talk  14:47, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose, it is part of a large established tree under Category:Catholicism by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:39, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely correct, I apologize. While I don't quite understand why the structure is as it is, that's a matter for another day. ヤクブ (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose Catholicism and Roman Catholicism are not identical. Maronites, for example, are Eastern Catholics rather than Roman Catholics. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Re the Maronite Church (though not a church in Nigeria?), the Category:Maronite Church in Lebanon is a subcategory of Category:Eastern Catholicism in Lebanon which is a subcategory of Category:Catholicism in Lebanon; along with the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and the Syriac Catholic Church. Eastern Catholicism in Lebanon is also a subcategory of Category:Eastern Christianity in Lebanon, along with Category:Eastern Orthodoxy in Lebanon. And the Oriental Orthodox Churches, mainly in Asia and Africa, are separate from Eastern Orthodoxy. Hugo999 (talk) 23:23, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge or reverse merge -- I very much doubt that any Eastern Catholic church set up a mission in Nigeria, so that there is no ambiguity. Furthermore, the Eastern Catholic churches are in Communion with Rome and are thus unlikely to set up a rival organisation.  This is somewhat different from the situation where there are churches for diasporas in UK, USA, etc.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)\
 * But note that there are other Western-rite bodies that are not in communion with Rome, like the Union of Utrecht (Old Catholic) or Sedevacantism. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 17:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * At least in Western countries there are also Catholic lay organizations and there is Catholic (folk) culture which are not part of the Catholic Church. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * merge or reverse merge -- in practice they are the same. This will not be applicable to all countries, but the overlap between (western) Catholicism and Eastern Catholics is slight in most countries.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the second vote by the same editor. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose I just added a second article to the category that was missing, Simon Faddoul. I expect more will come in time. Jahaza (talk) 01:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose it is part of a large established tree per Marco. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:12, 22 July 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs written by Long Chris

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs written by long chris
 * Nominator's rationale: Redlinked article, one redirect for a member. No assistance to navigation, Richhoncho (talk) 09:36, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The one entry was cowritten with another musician. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 20:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Railway stations served by Crossrail
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