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Category:Channel 4 comedy-dramas

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Channel 4 comedy-dramas to Category:Channel 4 comedy dramas
 * Nominator's rationale: The noun form "comedy drama" only needs the hyphen when used as a modifier, as in "comedy-drama series". Dicklyon (talk) 22:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Also note that while Category:Channel_4_comedy_dramas is a redlink, it does have a bunch of articles in that category, due to the hyphen-fixing I was doing. I can revert all those, but moving the category as suggested here would be the better fix. Dicklyon (talk) 22:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment / Oppose: wait until Category:Comedy-drama discussion ends. If it doesn't move, then oppose moving this. Gonnym (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Support. Grammar. No Great Shaker (talk) 23:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Sportspeople by city or town in the Netherlands
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Category:Restaurants in Hollywood history

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:26, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Restaurants in Hollywood history to Category:Defunct restaurants in Hollywood, Los Angeles
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per User:Grutness in the collapsed speedy discussion below. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Category:Restaurants in Hollywood history to Category:Restaurants in Hollywood, Los Angeles history – C2D: Probably can also lose the "history" part per C2C as the "Restaurants in" category does not use that as far as I can tell. Gonnym (talk) 10:10, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like a problem category... the aim of the category seems to be for former restaurants, in which case would probably be more appropriate, per  - though if so it'd need a full CFD rather than a speedy nom. BUT there are about three existing restaurants in there... along with a movie and a person. It's all a bit odd. Grutness...  wha?   09:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * pinging CFDS nominator too. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If they are defunct then sure, no problem. FYI: I did not get the ping. Gonnym (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for notifying about the ping. I have no idea what went wrong though. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * By the way, I purged the few articles that did not belong here (as still existing restaurants). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Support. "Restaurants in Hollywood history" is not particularly helpful and consistent with similar categories. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fishing villages
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Fishing communities
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Category:Children who followed their parents as heads of state
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Category:LGBT-related Western (genre) films

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lgbt-related western (genre) films
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Very little growth potential and the films listed are adequately categorised elsewhere. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:46, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, WP:TRIVIALCAT. Brandmeistertalk  17:01, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That's a very good point, . It is trivial because it's homing in on particular characteristics of perhaps a single supporting role. I removed one article which was about a woman who disguised as a man – with absolutely no LGBT relationship whatsoever! Thanks and all the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 17:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, good call from you. Brandmeistertalk  17:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom and above. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)'' per nom and above.


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Category:Western (genre) romance films

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting western (genre) romance films
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a recreation of with "romantic" replaced by "romance". The CFD outcome must stand for the same reasons discussed six months ago. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:09, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:52, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 04:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT-related places

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:LGBT places. (non-admin closure)  JBchrch   talk  12:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:LGBT-related places to Category:LGBT places
 * Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, seems an identical scope. I have tagged both categories. The page history of Category:LGBT places should be preserved as the older category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support. There's a general tendency here to try to avoid "Foo-related" naming of categories, as it makes the scope kinda vague. Grutness... wha?   06:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:52, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. No Great Shaker (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Better Reverse merge as few of them will be exclusively LGBT. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Modal jazz drummers

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:09, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting modal jazz drummers
 * Nominator's rationale: How the heck is a drummer playing a non-pitched instrument a modal jazz musician? Delete. Why? I Ask (talk) 06:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. These are drummers best known for their work with modal jazz groups (e.g., Elvin Jones's work with John Coltrane's quartet). As such, it's no more peculiar than, say, or . Grutness...  wha?   06:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Play School

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:45, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting play school
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALL it is small and unlikely to see growth. Also the category replicates the functionality of the disambiguation page Play School, there are hatnotes on the 3 pages in the category and the other two pages are seen in the "see also" section of each page. Gusfriend (talk) 03:05, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  bibliomaniac 1  5  02:15, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * REpurpose -- This should be a dab-redirect, which will come up if someone tries to use this category, so that it can be corrected to the right target. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Play School already exists as a dab page. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * A category disambiguation page can only link to other categories, but that is not applicable here. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Church Slavonic writers
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Category:Conradiner family members
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Category:Architects killed by falling buildings or by falling from buildings

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Architects killed by falling buildings or by falling from buildings to Category:Accidental deaths from falls
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT, and lumps together two very different kinds of deaths. –LaundryPizza<b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support probably not defining for the architect. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. No Great Shaker (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Manually merge, some articles may not fit the target because killed by a falling building is not a death from own one's fall. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose The category is similar to others in Category:Causes of death by occupation such as Category:Musicians who died on stage. It's not "two very different kinds of death" as the category encompasses the singular concept of "Architects killed by buildings".<strong style="color:#555555">Pontificalibus 14:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Falling from a building is very different from "killed by a building". Marcocapelle (talk) 16:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To use your own analogy, Pontificalibus, it is not . Grutness... wha?   01:00, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Just because we have other bad categories does not mean we need to create this one. The intersection of being someone who designs buildings and dieing from falling from one is the very epitome of trvia. The double unrelated overlap makes this category worse, but the two categories we would get from a split would both still be examples of trivia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


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