Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 March 6



Category:Naamloze vennootschappen

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:57, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting naamloze vennootschappen
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete The most common form of corporate organization in The Netherlands is certainly WP:NOTDEFINING for any of the companies in this category (as well as the many hundreds of others that in theory should be in this category): same reason we do not have Category:Limited liability companies or Category:Public limited companies. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Most notable companies are large companies and nearly all large companies are NVs. (Disclosure, I am living in the Netherlands.) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete -- The head note says that individual companies should not appear, but that is all there is. This the Dutch equivalent of a company being Ltd/Plc in UK and Ireland or SA in France and other countries, as the main article explains.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Medieval Persian writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Medieval Persian-language writers.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Medieval Persian writers to Category:Medieval Persian-language writers
 * Nominator's rationale: There is huge confusion between Iranian and Persian categories. This is intended to clarify.  If it is agreed then we can speedily rename the poet and writer categories which are divided by century.  We may need to keep some of the Iranian categories, as they may not all be writing in Persian. Rathfelder (talk) 21:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support (but check manually), in the middle ages there wasn't a well-defined Persian empire so I can't imagine this category is based on anything but language. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Russian military in the war in Donbas

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Military units and formations of Russia in the war in Donbas.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Russian military in the war in Donbas to Category:Military units and formations of Russia in the war in Donbas
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Military units and formations of Russia in World War I, Category:Military units and formations of Ukraine in the war in Donbas and other similarly named categories. Charles Essie (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * As past editors, I welcome your participation. Charles Essie (talk) 20:40, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Seems reasonable, but on the surface I would also expect to see military people in this category as currently named. I look at it and want to have a subcategory or a see-also link to Category:People of the war in Donbas. —Michael Z. 20:49, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying you want a category for Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Charles Essie (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom, per actual content. Whether or not there is a need for other categories is not relevant for this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Ukrainian activists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 21st-century ukrainian activists
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article, already in Category:Ukrainian anti-corruption activists‎. No other activist categories seem to be divided by century. Rathfelder (talk) 21:19, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep: I've populated the category. There is also Category:21st-century American activists‎. Categories for other nationalities can be created. I'm not convinced there is a compelling reason to delete this one (or the American one). TJMSmith (talk) 22:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ::This has today been populated, but I still think its better to categorise activists by issue than by century. The term activist is very rare before the 20th century. "by century" categories are not helpful if they only extend over 2 centuries. "Activist" is also very vague. Rathfelder (talk) 22:08, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, activist categories should be container categories by issue, we should not put entirely unrelated biographies in the same category. Similar categories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Activist categories should cover the causes for which these people lived and died for. There is no real connection between activists for different causes. Dimadick (talk) 04:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Runs from RAM Linux distributions

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 * The result of the discussion was: soft delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting runs from ram linux distributions
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT category with only two articles. GimliDotNet (talk) 20:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:LXQt
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Category:Khurshidbanu Natavan

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting khurshidbanu natavan
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT but cross-link the two articles directly, e.g. in a "see also" section. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:19th-century Azerbaijani poets

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Azerbaijani poets to Category:Azerbaijani-language poets, Category:Poets of the Russian Empire and Category:19th-century poets
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, in the 19th century the country Azerbaijan did not exist yet, nor was there a region Azerbaijan where the current republic is. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Tatar is also a possibility. Laurel Lodged (talk)
 * Oppose The main article Azerbaijanis also covers ethnic Azeris. And per the main article: "in post-Iranian Russian-held East Caucasia, an Azerbaijani national identity emerged at the end of the 19th century." Dimadick (talk) 04:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Most of the poets in the category died well before the end of the century. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:16, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose Agree with Dimadick. --Abrvagl (talk) 11:18, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Coca-Cola FC players

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Future FC (Egypt) players.  bibliomaniac  1  5  04:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Coca-Cola FC players to Category:Future FC (Egypt) players
 * Nominator's rationale: The name of the club has been changed from Coca-Cola FC to Future FC (Egypt). Ampimd (talk) 15:23, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 17:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Unsure why WP:CFDS has not been used? GiantSnowman 17:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support and would have been eligible for a speedy move as a WP:C2D. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:14, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice @Joseph2302 @GiantSnowman. Since it is going through this process already I guess it can stay on or any other suggestions? Next time I find one like this, I would crosscheck and it would go through a WP:C2D. Thanks. Ampimd (talk) 20:11, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:18th-century Azerbaijani people

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 18th-century azerbaijani people
 * Propose deleting 16th-century azerbaijani people
 * Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_20, where there was consensus to delete "Azerbaijani" biography categories for 18th century and earlier. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:16, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom, per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Tatar is also a possibility if retained. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Classical mystics

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Neoplatonist mystics and keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: delete, these are Neoplatonist philosophers who are already in Category:Neoplatonists. It is a bit odd to call them "mystics" if only because that word is usually associated with religion rather than with philosophy. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:54, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting classical mystics

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:24, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Oppose Neoplatonism is religious philosophy, and Neoplatonic beliefs include such weird elements as the "immortality of the soul", reincarnation, and various forms of mysticism. Much of Christian mysticism derives directly from the writings of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, a Greek Neoplatonic philosopher. Dimadick (talk) 04:42, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, a Neoplatonist intersection may be reasonable. Then, instead, rename to Category:Neoplatonist mystics. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:17, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Neoplatonist mystics. This seems like a reasonable intersection.  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:00, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Ethnic Azerbaijani Shia Muslims
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Ethnic Azerbaijani Shia Muslims to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, trivial intersection of ethnicity and religion, double violation of WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Presumably some "Ethnic Azerbaijani Shia Muslims" are from Azerbaijan or other countries, not Iran? May need some care with merging (t &#183; c)  buidhe  08:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * In practice they are all Iranians. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Will it make sense to merge it to this category Category:Azerbaijani Shia Muslims - Wikipedia? Abrvagl (talk) 06:13, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, because that one feeds in parent categories exclusively pertaining to people from the Republic of Azerbaijan. The entries listed in Category:Ethnic Azerbaijani Shia Muslims on the other hand are exclusively people from Iran. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. Currently Category:Azerbaijani Shia Muslims - Wikipedia reflects people from Republics of Azerbaijan, however, it is Azerbaijani, not Azerbaijan Shia Muslims. Do not see anything that can stop us from merging Category:Ethnic Azerbaijani Shia Muslims to it. Opposite to that, by merging it to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis we actually loosing the the categorization, as Iranian Azerbaijanis is just general list without categorization. Abrvagl (talk) 15:28, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - sounds reasonable to me. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:33, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


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Iranian Azerbaijanis by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all.  bibliomaniac  1  5  02:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani people by occupation to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani academics to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani historians to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian historians
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani scientists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian scientists
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani physicists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian physicists
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani actors to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani architects to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian architects
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani artists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani businesspeople to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian businesspeople
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani film directors to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian film directors
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani feminists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian feminists
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani linguists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Linguists from Iran
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani militants to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani musicians to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani singers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani opera singers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian opera singers
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani painters to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian painters
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani philosophers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian philosophers
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani photographers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian photographers
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani photojournalists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian photojournalists
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani physicians to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani surgeons to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian surgeons
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani politicians to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani revolutionaries to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian revolutionaries
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani sportspeople to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani writers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani male writers to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian male writers
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani journalists to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian journalists
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani poets to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian poets
 * Propose merging Category:Iranian Azerbaijani screenwriters to Category:Iranian Azerbaijanis and Category:Iranian screenwriters
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersections of occupations with ethnicity. With respect to writers specifically, many of them are Persian-language writers and if they are not then they are already in Category:Azerbaijani-language writers. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support all these. Rathfelder (talk) 21:21, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Support all. - <b style="color:#d90012">K</b><b style="color:#000000">evo</b><sup style="color:#d90012">3 <sup style="color:#0033a0">2 <sup style="color:#f2a800">7 (talk) 12:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Objection This lists are part of the bigger list People by ethnicity and occupation, where many nationalities categorized by ethnicity and occupation, for example American politicians of Palestinian descent. Do not think that above lists fall under WP:OCEGRS. However, I suggest to rename them to match the majority, for example Category:Iranian Azerbaijani screenwriters to Category: Iranian screenwriters of Azerbaijani descent. --Abrvagl (talk) 18:54, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support all. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support all per nom. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:04, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject Atheism/Participants
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:WikiProject Atheism/Participants to Category:WikiProject Atheism members
 * Nominator's rationale: Obvious duplicate categories. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


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