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Category:1982 Far Western Conference football season
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Category:Cuneiform signs, Amarna letters
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Template:Epsilonproteobacteria-stub

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete under G8. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting


 * Nominator's rationale: The bacterial class Epsilonproteobacteria has been dismantled and a new phylum erected in its place (see here). A new stub template has been created for this new phylum and placed in the appropriate articles. There is no longer any use for this stub and the expected associated category (Category:Epsilonproteobacteria stubs) does not exist. Ninjatacoshell (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. Are you nominating the template for deletion? If so, shouldn't you do that at WP:TFD instead of here? --ItMarki (talk) 11:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Stub templates may be nominated here. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:32, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Presumably this nomination fits WP:G8. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:West Lusatia

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:56, 3 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting west lusatia
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, West Lusatia is not a real region and the category mainly contains populated places for which the term West Lusatia is not defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I'm surprised that this has been nominated for deletion. The concept "West Lusatia" or Westlausitz has been around for 70 years and is testified, not just in the literature, but in culture. For example, there is a West Lusatian dialect and a West Lusatian Museum. What is a "real region"? West Lusatia may not be a formal administrative entity, but it appears to be geographically and linguistically quite well defined. Bermicourt (talk) 18:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Professors of the University of Cambridge
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Category:Kamby Lamas of Tuva
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Category:Oscar winners or nominees in Marvel Cinematic Universe

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting oscar winners or nominees in marvel cinematic universe
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a defining category. Just a mix of people involved in two unrelated things Unbh (talk) 14:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * (strong) Delete "People who have been in an MCU movie and have also been nominated for/won an Oscar" is not a category, let alone a defining one. Even tightening the scope to "people who have been nominated for an Oscar for their work in an MCU movie" is dubious, as it isn't very defining and would presumably be child to Oscar winners/noms and MCU people (if such a category exists; and if it doesn't, indeed sounding too fan-centric as I write this, then a child category certainly shouldn't) - which would somewhat preclude inclusion on all three even though someone can be involved with many MCU films, some they will be nominated for and others not, and can be nominated for Oscars for things other than their MCU contributions, i.e. it would be too much unnecessary category overlap even making the scope more reasonable for a category. It's also limited to actors, it seems, which is oddly restrictive and also a massive indicator that it's fancruft created by someone who only knows/cares about the acting groups and how 'good' they are in hardware terms... like some MCU promotion for getting a bunch of Oscar winners? Weird. I would've CfD'd it myself, if it wasn't already. Kingsif (talk) 20:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Yadav family of Uttar Pradesh
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Category:Colonial New York (state)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Colonial New York (state) to Category:Province of New York
 * Nominator's rationale: By definition, if it's colonial it isn't "state". This is by analogy with rename of people category to Category:People of the Province of New York. Peter Flass (talk) 10:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Category:Colonial forts in New York (state) and Category:Colonial architecture in New York (state) should be moved as well. Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, aligning with article title Province of New York. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support and speedy consequential rename for all children and siblings. Province was the contemporary term.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional female samurai
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Category:Fictional improvisational dancers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional improvisational dancers to Category:Fictional dancers
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 07:15, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  18:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional belly dancers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional belly dancers to Category:Fictional dancers
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  18:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional kalaripayattu practitioners
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional kalaripayattu practitioners to Category:Fictional Asian martial arts practitioners
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:13, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  18:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Lerdrit practitioners
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional Lerdrit practitioners to Category:Fictional Asian martial arts practitioners
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  18:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Shōrin-ryū practitioners
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional Shōrin-ryū practitioners to Category:Fictional karateka
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  18:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional blade and dart-throwers
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional blade and dart-throwers to Category:Fictional blade and dart throwers
 * Nominator's rationale: The hyphen is awkward, but there is no article or real-world category with which we can uncontroversially compare. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support. Seems to be the correct spelling. JBchrch   talk  18:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Scottish Backhold practitioners
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional Scottish Backhold practitioners to Category:Fictional sport wrestlers
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 article. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  17:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional table tennis players
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:55, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional table tennis players to Category:Fictional sportspeople
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, contains only Forrest Gump (character). –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  17:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional female bodybuilders
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional female bodybuilders to Category:Fictional bodybuilders
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT; the combined category would have 5 articles. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. JBchrch   talk  17:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional strength sportspeople
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional strength sportspeople to Category:Fictional sportspeople
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Category:Fictional bodybuilders, which is already in category:bodybuilding so a dual upmerge is not needed. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Songs about diseases and disorders
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Category:Iranian clerics
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Iranian Islamic religious leaders. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Iranian clerics to Category:Iranian clergy
 * Nominator's rationale: This would match the rest of Category:Clergy by nationality. But we do have Category:Iranian Shia clerics.  I'm not sure what distinction is intended, and my Oxford English Dictionary doesnt really help.  I find it hard to see that both terms exist in Farsi, but perhaps I am mistaken. Rathfelder (talk) 12:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose, as far as I am aware, (a) "cleric" generally is an outdated term for an ordained religious person (e.g. a priest or imam), but strangely enough this term is still in use for Iranians and the nominated category is exactly about Iranians. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I dont think adapting to local usage is always helpful. In Scotland, for example, priests are often called "divines", but we havent renamed our categories in line.  Rathfelder (talk) 16:56, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak support for consistency sake. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting any change to Category:Iranian Shia clerics. There is a parent Category:Shia clerics. The only explanation for the different uses that I can see is that "Clergy" has been thought to imply Christianity, although that is not how Wikipedia uses the term. Rathfelder (talk) 10:14, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But then Category:Iranian clerics can stay as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are a few Iranian clergy who are not Muslim. Do we need a superior Category:Iranian clergy to include them? Rathfelder (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Non-Muslims are in Category:Iranian religious leaders. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Seems like the participants are split between merging to either Category:Islamic religious leaders or Category:Iranian religious leaders. Relisting in hopes this old discussion gets some better outcome than "no consensus". Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 01:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * shouldn't we rather upmerge this to Category:Iranian Islamic religious leaders? I do not quite see the difference. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There is some information at Clergy, and it leads me to think the word cleric is too undefined to be useful in categorisation. Category:Iranian Islamic religious leaders would be better. Rathfelder (talk) 07:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I can support Category:Iranian religious leaders. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * presumably you meant Category:Iranian Islamic religious leaders, didn't you? Marcocapelle (talk) 02:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry, yes. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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