Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 17



Category:Kumu (social network) original programming

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: delete as empty and not populatable in its current form (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kumu (social network) original programming
 * Nominator's rationale: The category is empty and if there is content to add to the category that's when it can be created again. Category:Kumu (social network) is also available for utilization at the moment. DownTownRich (talk) 21:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Category:Kumu (social network) is also available for utilization at the moment.... - DownTownRich (talk) 21:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment, I have no clue whether this category should be empty by lack of articles about Kumu original programming, but if that is the case, then after deletion of this category, its parent Category:Kumu (social network) can be nominated for speedy upmerging per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment This category was sitting on the Empty Categories list for a few days but I didn't tag it for CSD C1 deletion because I was having a discussion with the page creator over whether or not TV programs that utilized Kumu could be categorized as Kumu programming. I argued that the social network was incidental and used to promote the TV series rather than having an active role in the production of these shows. Maybe the category creator will come to this discussion to argue for their perspective on these categories. Liz Read! Talk! 01:42, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I feel like the category should be kept (no bias in my opinion here) or renamed because some ABS-CBN shows use Kumu heavily for in-game mechanics, interaction with the viewer and show, or even having a direct role in auditions. Pinoy Big Brother  is a big example of all three gimmicks used in one show.


 * For example, Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10 and Pinoy Big Brother: Connect used Kumu as an online audition platform to find new housemates. Season 9 used Kumu to tell prospective housemates to record a 1-minute video and asked them to describe themselves. When a housemate was shortlisted as a housemate hopeful, they would receive a message from a PBB executive. Kumunity Decides! is a currently ongoing section that involves Kumu users using the "gifting system" to gift "virtual gifts" that is used to give the users the power to choose whether or not to give challenge(s), task(s), or advantage(s) to housemate(s) who received the highest amount of votes.


 * I think a show qualifies to be added to the category if the show either (a) has a segment(s) that uses Kumu to a great extent, (b) the show has a segment that involves the host directly interacting with a Kumu user (not including call-in segments), or (c) Kumu is used to such a degree that the Kumu users can directly influence the outcome of the show.


 * But I think the category should be renamed to something like Category:Philippine shows that use Kumu (social network) or Category:Shows that use Kumu (social network) because the current name implies that the show is exclusive to Kumu. That is not the case for all of the programming currently being broadcast by ABS-CBN (now Kapamilya Channel for the main channel) or the many block time agreements with channels like A2Z. (sorry if I rambled for too long on PBB) --ShiriEditsTalk 02:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, since this category is empty, ShiriEdits, I don't think there is any good reason to prevent you from creating new categories that you believe are more suitable for the situation that exists with this programming arrangement. Of course, they could be nominated as well, but it's something you could get started on since you seem to understand the production arrangements for these TV series better than those of us who are not exposed to them because we live elsewhere. Liz Read! Talk! 20:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians interested in rail transport In Victoria, Australia

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians interested in rail transport in victoria, australia
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:USERCATNO. This category is overly narrow in scope. 1857a (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  20:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep and rename to Category:Wikipedians interested in rail transport in Victoria (Australia). Category:Rail transport in Victoria (Australia) has 14 subcategories and 36 articles, which is a broad enough scope for me. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, category assignment is regulated by User:Renamed user himpgrtvbj/Userboxes/VicRailfan. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Wikipedians interested in rail transport. That parent category isn't diffused by anything but this Victoria category, so if there is a need for diffusion it should better take place at a higher level. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Geology of Great Britain

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:53, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting geology of great britain
 * Nominator's rationale: One of the many redundant category layers created by Balkovec who has been unmasked as a sock. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * Not entirely sure. Geology may be a valid subcategory of any island. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. I dont think Geology is much affected by changing political configurations.  Category:Geology of the United Kingdom seems quite sufficient. Rathfelder (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Keep but merge in the subcategory: it is that one that is the redundant level. GB is an island and Ireland is another.  It is entirely appropriate to have such a split in this case.   Peterkingiron (talk) 15:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Rock formations of Great Britain

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Rock formations of the United Kingdom by country.  bibliomaniac  1  5  15:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting rock formations of great britain
 * Nominator's rationale: One of the many redundant category layers created by Balkovec who has been unmasked as a sock. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:57, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * Not entirely sure. Rock formations may be a valid subcategory of any island. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  20:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Geology of Great Britain. I would prefer articles to be about geology (a science) than about rock formations (an aspect of it).  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge per Peterkingiron. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  20:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep There are geology articles, geologic formation articles, and rock formation articles. This category, its subcategories, and the articles they contain are about rock formations. A865 (talk) 19:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Admin comment: so far there is no consensus here. It may be worth pointing out that the category's creator emptied Category:Rock formations of the United Kingdom by country (a sub-cat of and ) to create this one, in case any participants might favour restoring that one. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I can support the restoration of that category as a satisfactory compromise. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:05, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename, effectively, to Category:Rock formations of the United Kingdom by country per Fayenatic london and Laurel Lodged. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 14:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional female samurai
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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge.  ✗  plicit  13:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional female samurai to Category:Fictional samurai
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 2 articles. Also dual upmerge to Category:Fictional female martial artists and Category:Fictional women soldiers and warriors. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Samurai were almost by definition male. This justifies having a separate female category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Triple merge, Peterkingiron's objection is sufficiently covered by also merging to the two gendered parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to parents per Marcocapelle. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1654635596996:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_17" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl talk  20:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Yadav family of Uttar Pradesh
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Category:Noir by genre
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 * The result of the discussion was: soft delete per WP:NOQUORUM. Editors may request that any or all of these categories be restored at WP:REFUND. I'll move Nordic Noir and Tartan Noir to Category:Noir fiction, which I presume is what Marco meant. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting noir by genre
 * Propose deleting nordic noir
 * Propose deleting tartan noir
 * Nominator's rationale: delete and move Nordic Noir and Tartan Noir to Category:Noir, redundant category layers with only two articles in three categories (and otherwise the content is already in Category:Noir writers). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Kamby Lamas of Tuva
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Category:Professors of the University of Cambridge
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Category:Cuneiform signs, Amarna letters
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: soft rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:47, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cuneiform signs, Amarna letters to Category:Cuneiform signs
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, the Cuneiform signs weren't exclusively used in the Amarna letters. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:1982 Far Western Conference football season
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:1982 Northern California Athletic Conference football season. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:1982 Far Western Conference football season to Category:1982 Northern California Athletic Conference football season
 * Nominator's rationale: The Northern California Athletic Conference was remamed from "Far Western Conference" to its final name by the start of the 1982 college football season. See https://www.newspapers.com/clip/101620769/the-press-democrat/ and https://www.newspapers.com/clip/101617448/the-sacramento-bee/ Jweiss11 (talk) 21:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Rename per nom. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:01, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Major non-NATO ally
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Major non-NATO ally to Category:Major non-NATO allies
 * Nominator's rationale: The category name should be plural as its members are individuals in that category. Largoplazo (talk) 16:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Speedy rename per C2A. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Questions, why "major"? Where is the borderline between "major" and "minor"? And is it US ally or NATO ally? And for how long should a country be an ally to qualify? Marcocapelle (talk) 02:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It is an official designation by the US government. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 05:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * In that case, delete per WP:NONDEF, countries are not defined by other countries' military classifications. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, these are temporary and changing allies of the US, some of whom do not have even formal treaties.-- Mvqr (talk) 10:54, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename but it needs to be Category:Major non-NATO allies of United States. Otherwise it might be about allies of South Africa or Zambia.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:06, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Templates for discussion/Log/2022 March 7. The same arguments against the navbox apply to the category, as a diplomatic designation by the United States is not a defining aspect of those countries. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:43, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:South Coast Railway zone
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Category:Pizza restaurants from Buenos Aires
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:54, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Pizza restaurants from Buenos Aires to Category:Pizzerias in Buenos Aires
 * Nominator's rationale: A "pizza restaurant" is a pizzeria. For consistency with Category:Pizzerias in Portland, Oregon, Category:Pizzerias in New York City, etc. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Texts in unknown languages
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Coffeehouses and cafés by country
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