Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 21



Category:Songwriting trios

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Songwriting trios to Category:Songwriting teams
 * Propose merging to Category:Songwriting teams
 * Nominator's rationale: I can see no reasonable reason for separating songwriting teams by the number of members. Is the number of members in a team significant? Not for songwriting. Richhoncho (talk) 21:57, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support There is no need to split the parent category into such subcategories. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 03:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Articles using Template:Infobox music genre with invalid colour combination

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:28, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting articles using template
 * Nominator's rationale: This tracking category was for tracking when Infobox music genre was using bgcolor incorrectly, however this parameter has been removed after a discussion was closed regarding this parameter. Therefore this tracking category is no longer useful and should be deleted. Terasail [✉️] 17:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. I have also filed a request at WP:AWBREQ to remove all instances of this deprecated parameter, and the category is already empty. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 23:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category: Marxist historians

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 * The result of the discussion was: soft merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Swiss Marxist historians to Category:Swiss historians, Category: Marxist historians and Category:Swiss Marxists
 * Propose merging Category:South African Marxist historians to Category:South African historians, Category:South African Marxists, Category: Marxist historians
 * Propose merging Category:Lithuanian Marxist historians to Category:Lithuanian historians,Category:Lithuanian Marxists, Category: Marxist historians
 * Propose merging Category:Austrian Marxist historians to Category:Austrian historians, Category:Austrian Marxists, Category: Marxist historians
 * Propose merging Category:Trinidad and Tobago Marxist historians to Category:Trinidad and Tobago historians, Category:Trinidad and Tobago Marxists and Category:Marxist historians
 * Propose merging Category:Guyanese Marxist historians to Category:Guyanese historians, Category:Guyanese Marxists and Category:Marxist historians
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in each of these. Rathfelder (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Comedy-drama

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:29, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Comedy-drama to Category:Comedy drama
 * Nominator's rationale: Article was moved recently to the noun-form title (Comedy drama without the hyphen), and the category should follow. Dicklyon (talk) 04:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 15:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, the subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No, subcategories like Category:Comedy-drama films use the hyphenated compound-modifier form, as they should. A week ago I went through all articles and adjusted the hyphens or lacks thereof to be grammatical and in agreement with MOS:HYPHEN; the only reaction I got, besides a couple of thanks, was where I accidentally changed a couple of category names to redlinks, like this one and Category:Channel 4 comedy-dramas --> Category:Channel 4 comedy dramas, which I've also listed.  I can't find any more like that that I need to list here. Dicklyon (talk) 14:31, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note the link to the other nomination is Categories for discussion/Log/2022 March 24. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment perhaps the article and category should both be renamed to dramedy/ -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:50, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish astronauts
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Category:Wikipedians who support the Communist Party of China

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:21, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who support the communist party of china
 * Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate advocacy user category. * Pppery * it has begun... 12:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


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Language activists‎
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 10%23Language activists‎

Category:People by nationality and period

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all to the "Fooian people" parent. I have checked that each of the nominated categories still only contains one sub-cat, mostly "by century". – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:02, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting zimbabwean people by period
 * Propose deleting south korean people by period
 * Propose deleting senegalese people by period
 * Propose deleting nigerien people by period
 * Propose deleting nepalese people by period
 * Propose deleting maltese people by period
 * Propose deleting malawian people by period
 * Propose deleting kurdish people by period
 * Propose deleting israeli people by period
 * Propose deleting hong kong people by period
 * Propose deleting first nations people by period
 * Propose deleting chilean people by period
 * Propose deleting burmese people by period
 * Propose deleting bhutanese people by period
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary intermediate categories. The only content of each is Fooish people by century, and they are all in the appropriate Fooish people categories.  Rathfelder (talk) 08:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Agree with nom in principle, but merge instead of delete, or else the by-century categories will no longer be part of the tree. For example merge Category:Zimbabwean people by period to Category:Zimbabwean people. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I see - I missed that. OK  Lets  merge. Rathfelder (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge -- This is an unnecessary level, since the only content is a by century category. There might be scope in some cases for this, where the tree brnaches.  For example in British history we may have Tudor people as well as 16th-century people.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Its not needed for all countries.  And indeed some of the periods noted in some countries - like Fooish people of the First World War - can be contained within a century. Rathfelder (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all. The opinions above disregard the existence of Category:People by millennium, applied by country here: Category:Egyptian people by millennium and also for the continent of Europe. All above and beyond can be organized by millennium and even if they aren't, purely looking at the current situation, Fooyan people by period are necessary to bridge across different systems. gidonb (talk) 04:45, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Category:People by nationality and period only covers 80 nationalities. On this argument we need to establish another 150 at least. Rathfelder (talk) 13:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Very few nationalities need a millennium tree. Even Category:Egyptian people by century has only 56 subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The amount of each is not the key to my opinion. The fact that this category set levels coexisting systems is. gidonb (talk) 22:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I dont understand the point you are making. Rathfelder (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not understand either. We only need container categories "by" something if the amount of subcategories becomes too large. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for allowing me to clarify. I meant the relative amount of by people millennium and by century categories. gidonb (talk) 18:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge all. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  14:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


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Places by former East German administrative division
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Cottbus
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Dresden
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Erfurt
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Frankfurt
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Gera
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Halle
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Karl-Marx-Stadt
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Leipzig
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Magdeburg
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Neubrandenburg
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Potsdam
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Rostock
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Schwerin
 * Propose deleting Category:Bezirk Suhl
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, this is a tree of current populated places by former (East German) administrative divisions. We do not categorize places by all administrative divisions they have ever belonged to. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I can be useful to know what former administrative entity a place was in. While the places are current populated places, they also existed in 1950s to 1980s when these are current.  At worst Listify.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think we even need to listify them as the articles for those former divisions includes their current populated places. I assume (but am not certain) the current populated places may include their former areas so a formal list may not be needed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as belonging to a former administrative division is not a defining characteristic of cities and towns. Renata•3 21:41, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


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Villages in Italy
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  07:14, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Italy
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Abruzzo
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Campania
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Lazio
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Liguria
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Piedmont
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Sardinia
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Sicily
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Tuscany
 * Propose deleting Category:Villages in Veneto
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, these are very incomplete categories and in the Italian context they are redundant because all populated places in Italy are in Category:Municipalities of Italy or in Category:Frazioni of Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Wholly agree. All the information can be found elsewhere, and Italy does not have the same categorisation of village as other countries do. These categories are effectively pointless. Vesuvio14 (talk) 08:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- We have Category:Cities and towns in Liguria and Category:Populated places in Liguria. Many years ago, we abolished most city/town/village categories due to the problem of knowing which of these a place belonged to, merging all to populated places.  oes this not need a wider nom?  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Category:Cities and towns in Liguria was established in 2004. I suspect there was merely an intention to abolish most city/town/village categories but not an implementation. Having said that, city/town/village categories are more unhelpful in Italy than in other countries because an alternative scheme with municipalities and frazioni has been elaborated in much more detail. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:08, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1654984623245:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_21" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl talk  21:57, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


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Category:1st-century BC establishments in Germany
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Category:Members of the 4th Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Tamil Nadu MLAs 1967–1972. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Members of the 4th Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly to Category:Madras MLAs 1967–1972
 * Nominator's rationale: The name of the state didn't change to Tamil Nadu until 1969, as can be seen from 1967 Madras Legislative Assembly election. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

As the nominator @MPGuy2824 rightly notes, the state was renamed in 1969, so the name switched just before mid-term ... and by convention, we use the newer name. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:13, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ALT1 rename to Category:Tamil Nadu MLAs 1967–1972, with a Category redirect from Category:Madras MLAs 1967–1972.
 * Agreed. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:54, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Members of the 3rd Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:57, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Members of the 3rd Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly to Category:Madras MLAs 1962–1967
 * Nominator's rationale: The official name of the state didn't become Tamil Nadu until 1969. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, subject to a check that the pages in Category:Members of the 3rd Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly really meas 1962-6, rather than the 3rd term of the renamed state. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Good point. I checked a few and both kinds of articles existed. This government website seems to count the assemblies of Tamil Nadu from 1952. My first thought is to correct the category of the pages where Category:Tamil Nadu MLAs 1977–1980‎ was meant. Should I go ahead and do that? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @MPGuy2824: I reckon yes, do it. Those articles are miscategorised.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 05:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Members of the 1st Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Members of the 1st Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly to Category:Madras MLAs 1952–1957
 * Propose renaming Category:Members of the 2nd Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly to Category:Madras MLAs 1957–1962
 * Nominator's rationale: The official name of the state didn't become Tamil Nadu until 1969. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename both per nominator. Thanks to @MPGuy2824 for making these nominations. I had considered doing it myself on several occasions, but didn't have time. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Group I semiconductors
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Group I semiconductors to Category:Semiconductor materials
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, probably because these materials tend to have large band gaps. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support as category creator. It's been longer than six months, so WP:C2E doesn't apply, but I agree two pages isn't enough for a category. &#12296; Forbes72 &#124; Talk &#12297; 04:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


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