Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3



Category:Christian bell towers

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Christian bell towers to Category:Bell towers
 * Nominator's rationale: purge and manually merge, the articles about churches and cathedrals should be removed and articles about bell towers should be kept. However, bell towers do not have a religion, so manually disperse to Category:Bell towers and its country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose None of these is a Christian bell tower: Linh Phuoc Pagoda, The Bell Tower of Xi'an, Shōrō, Swan Bells, Swan Bells. The Christian towers are sufficiently distinct to warrant their own sub-category. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep -- The use of bells is strongly associated with Christianity, bells having been long used to summon the faithful to worship. The Muslim equivalent is a minaret.  The category might be limited to church bell towers, but on the whole it is better left alone.  The target is a mixture of bell towers for other religions and secular ones, such as for war memoricals.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:West Lusatia
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Category:Geology of Great Britain
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Category:Rock formations of Great Britain
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Category:Pseudoastronomers
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Category:Songs about fires

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs about fires
 * Propose deleting songs about arson
 * Nominator's rationale: These songs are not actually "about" fire, they just have the word fire in the title. For example, in "We Didn't Start the Fire", it is metaphorical, not a literal fire; the song is about the constant stream of events that show up in the media. A misinterpretation of Wikipedia's categorization policy. Should be deleted as inaccurate. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment I actually looked up the lyrics of the songs on Genius, they mentioned houses being intentionally burnt by someone else. Some songs talked about events that involved flames. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 23:00, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I looked up one, Cherokee Highway, and it is a song "about racial unrest" featuring an episode of arson. Again, mere mentions of something in a work of media does not mean that it is defining per WP:NONDEF. It is correctly in Category:Songs against racism and xenophobia but saying it is "about" arson would be a stretch. The Roof Is on Fire can be even said to be metaphorical and not literal. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed – I doubt that any of the songs listed at Hearts on Fire are literally about fire. Richard3120 (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * We can look for songs those lyrics literally talked about fire throughout the song. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. "...But don't play with me, 'Cause you're playing with fire." Yes, Play with Fire is in there because it is about a fire according to one editor. So, perhaps the category should be renamed, Category:Songs that have 'Fire' in the title used metaphorically, allegorically, or other literary device, No, that fails WP:SHAREDNAME. "About" categories will always be problematic and generally more WP:OR than WP:CATV. And for any editor who says 'keep but prune' just start pruning...--Richhoncho (talk) 09:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


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Template:Epsilonproteobacteria-stub
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Category:Songs about body parts

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete all Timrollpickering (talk) 21:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting songs about body parts
 * Propose deleting songs about breasts
 * Propose deleting songs about buttocks
 * Propose deleting songs about eyes
 * Propose deleting songs about hair and hairstyles
 * Propose deleting songs about penises
 * Propose deleting songs about vaginas
 * Nominator's rationale: This category and all subcategories just contain songs with body parts in the title. Most of them are not actually about body parts, so the category is misleading and I doubt it is defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Time to put your foot down and elbow all of these.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:41, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and before they grow into Frankenstein's monster. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:SHAREDNAME. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 14:15, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


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Template:Deltaproteobacteria-stub

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting


 * Nominator's rationale: The bacterial class Deltaproteobacteria has been dismantled and four new phyla erected in its place (see here). New stub templates have been created for these new phyla (as needed) and the new stub templates have been placed in the appropriate articles. There is no longer any use for this stub and the associated category (Category:Deltaproteobacteria stubs) is effectively empty. Ninjatacoshell (talk) 20:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I think you might have confused CfD for TfD with this and the above nomination? As for the category, delete as empty and not useful. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Stub templates may be nominated here. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Presumably this nomination fits WP:G8. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians interested in Sant Nirankari Mission

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians interested in sant nirankari mission
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:USERCATNO. Overly narrow scope. 1857a (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Historical letters
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Category:Slothrust albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:21, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting slothrust albums
 * Nominator's rationale: Category is entirely populated by redirects back to the artist's article, serves no purpose as an album category. Richard3120 (talk) 17:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice towards recreation if any of the redirects grow into articles. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. A category of redirects all to the main article is not helpful. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Swabian-language writers from Germany

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 11:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Swabian-language writers from Germany to Category:Swabian-language writers
 * Nominator's rationale: They are all from Germany and not likely to be from elsewhere. Rathfelder (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename, without prejudice to recreating if needed due to discoveries of secret Swabian literary cultures. I note the suggested target is already a redirect pointing to the cat under discussion, so this really should be fine. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Scholars and academics
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Former constituencies

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename/Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 21:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming


 * Nominator's rationale: For consistency with the category tree. Some things:
 * Other nominations in the group are updated to follow the Category names : the "... of " as these are administrative divisions and not settlements.
 * The Indian parliamentaries are named "Former Lok Sabha constituencies of ..." which seems out of consistency with others in the tree. The alternative would be "Former parliamentary constituency of "
 * I proposed "Former assembly constituency of " instead of "Former Assembly constituency of ..." (see Naming conventions (Indian constituencies)) so that they are consistent with other in the category tree, viz. "electoral districts", "parliamentary constituencies"
 * P.S. I haven't notified the creators. If required, please let me know. For now, I'll notify just the above respective country WikiProjects — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC) (Updated with the entire list — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC))


 * Support -- It will be good to have consistency between countries. In USA, we need to be careful over names so that we do not confuse federal and state electoral districts.  I think UK constituencies use "former".  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - as the head category is the subcategories should follow suit. 18:37, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support — former also is much clearer than defunct — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 08:21, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. 'Former' seems to be a more accurate word -- Ab207 (talk) 13:40, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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