Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 18



Category:21st-century African-American activists

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 * The result of the discussion was: selective merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 21st-century african-american activists
 * Propose deleting 21st-century american activists
 * Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 March 13, but my CSD G4 was objected to at User talk:WikiCleanerMan.  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:12, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging relevant users @WikiCleanerMan, @Rathfelder, @User:SquareInARoundHole, @User:Marcocapelle, @User:LaundryPizza03, @User:Johnpacklambert — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment Delete one than the rest of these similar cats should be deleted as well. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:21, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, nothing changed since the previous discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcocapelle (talk • contribs) 21:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Miha2020 (talk) 23:06, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - this is rather difficult to follow. Firstly, there are references to speedies, but these were not speedies; and the cfd was not delete but Merge Category:21st-century African-American activists to Category:African-American activists. Carry out the decision of the previous cfd. Oculi (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with WikiCleanerMan that the earlier nomination should have included the other 'by century' subcats, or been followed-up properly. Oculi (talk) 00:22, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * A complete list is Category:18th-century African-American activists, Category:19th-century African-American activists,  Category:19th-century Romanian activists,  Category:20th-century African-American activists,  Category:20th-century American activists,  Category:21st-century African-American activists,  Category:21st-century American activists, Category:21st-century Swedish activists.  Oculi (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * So below is the full nomination, which I support. I will tag the categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:18th-century African-American activists to Category:African-American activists
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century African-American activists to Category:African-American activists
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Romanian activists to Category:Romanian activists
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century African-American activists to Category:African-American activists
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century American activists to Category:American activists
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century African-American activists to Category:African-American activists
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century American activists to Category:American activists
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century Swedish activists to Category:Swedish activists


 * Note to closer, if merged please also add this to WP:CFDWM for cleanup because after the merge many articles may end up both in the main activist category and in a subcategory by issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Macrocapelle's merge nominations of the activists' categories. As stated on my talk page and here, not one category should go under the microscope since the same argument against one should apply to the other existing cats since they have the same scope for articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Marcocapelle's merge nominations. — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:55, 20 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:19th-century rabbis of the Austrian Empire

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century rabbis of the Austrian Empire to Category:Rabbis of the Austrian Empire
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, the Austrian Empire only existed in the 19th century, so there is no reason to split by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Support current category is redundant. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:25, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator's rationale. Bruxton (talk) 17:32, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — Mugtheboss (talk) 17:13, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:18th-century rabbis of the Austrian Empire

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 18th-century rabbis of the austrian empire
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, the Austrian Empire did not exist yet in the 18th century. The articles are already in more specific categories (e.g. Hungarian, Croatian). Marcocapelle (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Support current category is ahistorical. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:26, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support based in the timeline of the Austrian Empire's existence Bruxton (talk) 17:33, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — Mugtheboss (talk) 17:14, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Non-Muslim interactants with Muslims during Muhammad's era
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 26%23Category:Non-Muslim interactants with Muslims during Muhammad's era

Category:Lists of Governors of Turkey
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 26%23Category:Lists of Governors of Turkey

Category:American pizza

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename as per nom. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:American pizza to Category:Pizza in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:56, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:10, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename but to Category:Pizza in North America as there is a Canada subcat. Oculi (talk) 20:11, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Can't we have both Category:Pizza in North America and Category:Pizza in the United States? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:18, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd support both categories.★Trekker (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It is strange that there is not an article about "American pizza" because outside Italy and the US you can encounter separate vendors of American pizzas while Italian pizzas are ususally the default (see e.g. about the differences between the two, which is not necessarily a reliable source). But the category is not really about that so support rename. But oppose Category:Pizza in North America because there aren't any other continent categories and there does not seem any need to. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * So you think Category:Pizza chains of Canada should be a subcat of Category:Pizza in the United States? Oculi (talk) 12:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No it should be moved out. It shouldn't have been here in the first place. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:16, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Question – I'd like to know the nominator's rationale for this, as s/he didn't provide any. The reason I ask is this: many, many categories start with the country first as an adjective (American, British, Japanese) rather than at the end as nouns (United States, United Kingdom, Japan). Is that the issue, or is it some naming convention specific to pizza? Senator2029 【talk】 07:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The convention is to use an adjective for people and for culture (because culture may include culture exported to other countries), and of course anything that is specifically called with the adjective (like American pizza in the context that I mentioned above), but "in country" is used in almost every other case. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the tyranny of demonyms. It blurs islands / nations / states. This imprecision is unnecessary and unencyclopedic. Down with this sort of thing. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:30, 19 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Support Down with the tyranny of demonyms. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:30, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Pizza in the United States, per Pizza in the United States, and to match Category:Pizzerias in the United States. Probably coulda been a speedy : ) - jc37 13:15, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment American-style pizza is not quite the same as the Neapolitan original, I think. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:04, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of traffic collisions

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:54, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Lists of traffic collisions to Category:Traffic collisions
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a small category with just three entries that I propose to merge with both parents, Category:Traffic collisions has only 29 members, including one of the three and Category:Lists of road transport incidents has just one other entry (and possibly should itself be merged, but I'm not proposing that as part of this nomination). Thryduulf (talk) 11:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Support dual merge also to Category:Lists of road transport incidents, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Link Light Rail

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Link Light Rail to Category:Link light rail
 * Nominator's rationale: Matches main article's renaming from a few years ago. "Light rail" is a descriptor and should not be capitalized.  Sounder Bruce  08:48, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - Uncontroversial request. <b style="color:#1974D2;">Senator2029</b> <b style="color:#1974D2;">【talk】</b> 07:39, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — Mugtheboss (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


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Ongoing conflicts by continent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:55, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts by continent
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts in Africa
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts in the Americas
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts in Asia
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts in Europe
 * Propose deleting Category:Ongoing conflicts in Oceania
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per precedent, the parent Category:Ongoing conflicts was deleted after this discussion. Presumably WP:G8 applies here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:44, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per the conclusive 2022 November 9#Category:Ongoing events and similar precedents. Oculi (talk) 13:55, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support as the same arguments from the archived discussion apply here. — Mugtheboss (talk) 17:28, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


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