Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 3



Category:Modisi

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting modisi
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a small town without the volume of related content to need an eponymous category. Besides the eponym itself, there's only one other thing here, which isn't enough. Bearcat (talk) 23:52, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a town of 670 people in Indonesia. Obvious WP:SMALLCAT is obvious. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 08:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, both articles are in the tree of Category:North Sulawesi and that suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


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Architects by county in England
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 12%23Architects by county in England

Category:Royalty educated at Eton College

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:34, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Royalty educated at Eton College to Category:People educated at Eton College.
 * Nominator's rationale: There is no connection between royalty and place of education. Oculi (talk) 10:02, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The school doesnt make them royal, but the very small number of schools where royalty are educated is significant for the schools. Rathfelder (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 'Significant for the school' is not a criterion for categorisation, unless I have missed something. Oculi (talk) 10:47, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Why not? We have endless categorisation by place and occupation.  Education is more significant than location for most.  It doesnt make much difference to a scientist where they are born, but the categorisation by place is significant for the place.  If you dont think Category:People educated at Eton College should be divided by occupation should you not nominate all of the subcategories together?  Rathfelder (talk) 10:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Much of this endless categorisation by place ('from' rather than birth) and occupation is being done by you. And you don't have consensus for that either. (Absence of consensus to delete is not consensus to create.) Eg 2020 March 26#Category:Architects from Dorset was upmerged, but you carry on regardless. All the categorisation ever done by secondary school has been done by you, Rathfelder, a consensus of one. You seem now to be advertising the significance of schools and places using the category system, rather than categorising biographical articles by defining characteristics. As for nominating them all, you are creating them faster than they can be nominated. (All was about 16 yesterday, now it is about 30 including Harrow, and counting.) [Good indenting, by the way.] Oculi (talk) 13:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There are 36 subcategories in Category:English architects by county by no means all created by me and nobody seems to have suggested getting rid of any of them. Rathfelder (talk) 13:41, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * On the contrary! See Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_March_26, a well-attended and successful deletion nomination by me (supported by Marcocapelle). That was stated to have been a test case, but unfortunately has not been followed up for the others. Thanks for reminding me. I'm no good at doing noms; could anyone else do the others? All should go. Johnbod (talk) 14:10, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge back per Oculi, and Prince Edmund Batthyany-Strattmann was not royal, just Euro-posh, anyway. Johnbod (talk) 14:16, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Having an article that is miscategorised is not a reason to remove the category. Rathfelder (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge back per Oculi and set precedent for other categories to be similarly merged. The categories created have been a highly selective set of backgrounds and occupations with a whiff of WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS coming from the creator's comments - no writers, artists, criminals, cricketers and so forth. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:California Democrats

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:36, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:California Democrats to Category:California Democrats and Category:California Democratic Party politicians
 * Nominator's rationale: Current category is a subcategory of Category:California politicians by party but many people in Category:California Democrats are not politicians.

Proposal: Category:California Democrats is subcategory of Category:California Democratic Party. Category:California Democratic Party politicians is a subcategory of Category:California Democrats and Category:California politicians by party.

(Note that this also occurs in other subcategories of Category:California politicians by party, where politicians are mixed in with non-politicians) 🌊 Pacific Depths talk 05:03, 18 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Manual rename? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  10:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and containerize, people should be categorized by political or organizational function in the party. People who are merely a member of the party should be purged per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Purge all politicians into Category:California Democratic Party politicians and delete what is left. Mere party membership or being registered as a democrat so that a person can vote in primaries is not defining.  This category is so enormous that it is useless as a navigation tool.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Tinker Bell films
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Category:Port settlements in Argentina
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Category:Disc golf in the United States by state

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:37, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting disc golf in the united states by state
 * Propose deleting disc golf in alabama
 * Propose deleting disc golf in arizona
 * Propose deleting disc golf in california
 * Propose deleting disc golf in colorado
 * Propose deleting disc golf in delaware
 * Propose deleting disc golf in florida
 * Propose deleting disc golf in georgia (u.s. state)
 * Propose deleting disc golf in idaho
 * Propose deleting disc golf in indiana
 * Propose deleting disc golf in kentucky
 * Propose deleting disc golf in maryland
 * Propose deleting disc golf in massachusetts
 * Propose deleting disc golf in michigan
 * Propose deleting disc golf in minnesota
 * Propose deleting disc golf in missouri
 * Propose deleting disc golf in montana
 * Propose deleting disc golf in nebraska
 * Propose deleting disc golf in nevada
 * Propose deleting disc golf in new york (state)
 * Propose deleting disc golf in north carolina
 * Propose deleting disc golf in oklahoma
 * Propose deleting disc golf in oregon
 * Propose deleting disc golf in pennsylvania
 * Propose deleting disc golf in south dakota
 * Propose deleting disc golf in tennessee
 * Propose deleting disc golf in texas
 * Propose deleting disc golf in vermont
 * Propose deleting disc golf in virginia
 * Propose deleting disc golf in washington (state)
 * Nominator's rationale: Except for 2 pages in the California subcat and 1 in the Massachusetts subcat, all of these categories contain only subcats for disc golf courses. Most of those are themselves WP:SMALLCAT, but will be nominated separately. –Laundry<b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:47, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. But the three articles should be added to Category:Disc golf in the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Accidents and incidents involving Eurostar
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Category:2019 Piala Presiden (Malaysia)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:39, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:2019 Piala Presiden (Malaysia) to Category:Piala Presiden (Malaysia)
 * Nominator's rationale: Single article. Upmerge. – robertsky (talk) 00:46, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 19:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom. GiantSnowman 19:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Ambedkarites
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  08:40, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ambedkarites
 * Nominator's rationale: Names randomly added by socks. For a name, nowhere on Aamir Khan, Yogendra Yadav and others we would find any mention that how this category is justified but it exists there anyway. Wareon (talk) 16:51, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment, a list with similar content was just removed by nominator from the article Ambedkarism. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:28, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * All of that content was added by a now blocked sock. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I am the creator of this category. I wanted to understand that is there any policy that indicates that if random socks add pages in a category then the whole category must be deleted? What is the rationale of deletion of this category? At Ambedkarism it is clearly written in the lead section that An Ambedkarite is one who follows the philosophy of Ambedkar. IMHO if there are pages that are added wrongly in this category, they must be individually removed and not the whole category to be deleted citing that reason. Please take up for discussion if the word "Ambedkarite" exists if no then I have no issues with deletion of the category. -- ✝iѵ ɛɳ  २२४० †ลℓк †๏ мэ 14:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * For keeping the category it is not sufficient that the word Ambedkarite exist. It should be a defining characteristic of the subjects in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - reasons
 * 1) Ambedkarites are followers of the philosophy of B. R. Ambedkar.
 * 2) this category is having approximately +200 pages.- <span style="color: blue; font-weight: regular; background: linear-gradient( orange, white, green)">Santosh  14:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Neither of these are reasons to keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Purge or delete, as nominator mentions this is not a relevant characteristic for certain articles in this category which should certainly be purged. Opposers should make clear that this is nevertheless a viable category i.e. they should give examples of articles that should certainly stay in this category. If that does not happen the category may well be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I don't see existence of a criteria here. Orientls (talk) 06:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


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