Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 11



Category:HNK Orijent 1919

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:HNK Orijent 1919 to Category:HNK Orijent
 * Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. Late last week, an editor moved the head article about this team from HNK Orijent 1919 to HNK Orijent on the grounds that the team has apparently changed its name, but then proceded to also bork its categorization by changing the eponymous category declaration from to  without actually moving the actual category. So I've obviously had to put the article back where it was, since articles cannot be left sitting in nonexistent categories, but am listing the category for renaming as the OP should have done in the first place. As I'm not an expert in Croatian football, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with more knowledge on the subject can demonstrate that the page renaming was wrong -- but if it's correct, then the OP should have followed the proper process rather than trying to file the article in a nonexistent category. Bearcat (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 21:13, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the page move was unilateral and undiscussed, and no sources were presented to support it - the edit summary was simply "HNK Orijent 1919 has changed its name to HNK Orijent". Not good enough. I have reverted the page move, and WP:RM should be used. If/when there is consensus to move the article, then the categories can be moved using WP:CFDS. GiantSnowman 21:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have sent an e-mail to a club address, so we will see what the heck is all about. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  19:44, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @GiantSnowman, I have received an e-mail from Orijent, and they say that the new name is really HNK Orijent. I can capture my screen with an e-mail heading, or something? ౪ Santa ౪  99°  00:21, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Are there any reliable sources to show the name change, independent of the club? GiantSnowman 17:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not especially interested in this issue, so I didn't look around for independent sources - I wanted to see what their website says, and as it was easy to post the question under Contact, I filled the form and they were really expeditive and politely confirmed change. But if club say it is changed, I presume sport media at least in Croatia or Dalmatia knows about it too, so probably someone reported on it. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  21:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's one. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  21:19, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * And another - it's really small club (HNL2, a second level in Cro champ.) and name appeared to be changed in September, so few reports could be found at this point. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  21:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose, their website still shows 1919. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * They said that the emblem will retain 1919, and the website header, but all the new reports on the website now carry new name. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  21:55, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose article has been moved back. First, get a consensus from a WP:RM to move the article, and then the category can be moved if the article has been moved. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural close awaiting the outcome of an RM. After that, the category can be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:The Great British Bake Off winners
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Category:Georgian military personnel who committed suicide

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 11:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Georgian military personnel who committed suicide to Category:Soviet military personnel who committed suicide
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only one page, for Pore Mosulishvili, who was a Soviet soldier of Georgian origin. The page is in other Georgian categories (but there is none for Georgian suicides). If this is merged then it saves choosing a longer name, as we generally use "from Georgia (country)" to avoid ambiguity. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Oculus Quest

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (talk) 19:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Oculus Quest to Category:Meta Quest
 * Propose renaming Category:Oculus Quest games to Category:Meta Quest games
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NAMECHANGE on Meta Quest 2 and unveiling of Meta Quest Pro today; the "Oculus" name has been deprecated in relation to this product line, and there are now more entries in it presently sold under the "Meta" brand than "Oculus". ViperSnake151   Talk  19:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Contemporary philosophers

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Contemporary philosophers to Category:Contemporary philosophy
 * Nominator's rationale: According to the anchor article Contemporary philosophy is the present period in the history of Western philosophy beginning at the early 20th century - so all the biographies should be in  Category:20th-century philosophers and Category:21st-century philosophers and it shouldnt contain Category:Contemporary Chinese philosophers or Category:Contemporary Indian philosophers as it did. Rathfelder (talk) 14:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Query - how does the proposed merge, of a people category into a topic category, address the problem perceived in the nom? And will not Category:20th-century philosophers include eg Chinese philosophers? I note also that Category:Contemporary philosophy includes Category:Contemporary Chinese philosophy. Renaming the ambiguous article Contemporary philosophy (eg there is Contemporary Islamic philosophy) to include 'Western' would be a better plan. Oculi (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Or we could just delete it. I had assumed that "contemporary philosopher" meant something more specific than just the date.  I cant see that it adds anything to Category:20th-century philosophers and Category:21st-century philosophers.   Apart from any other consideration there has been quite a lot of change in the world of philosophy over the last 122 years. But philosophers are divided by period: Category:Philosophers by period I also wonder how Category:Contemporary Chinese philosophy  and the like can be excluded. Who says so? Rathfelder (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merging does not make much sense because the subcategories already are a subcategory of Category:20th-century philosophy and Category:21st-century philosophy respectively. If not kept, just delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:53, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've containerised it. Perhaps that is the best we can do.  I agree that merging doesnt make much sense. Rathfelder (talk) 08:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


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Surnames of Baden origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete/Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 11:51, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting surnames of baden origin
 * Propose deleting surnames of alsatian origin
 * Propose deleting surnames of württemberg origin
 * Propose merging Category:Alemannic-language surnames to Category:Germanic-language surnames (added 12 October)
 * Nominator's rationale: These categories all contain only one page Egloff, which does not state the origin of the name, let alone with a citation. The page is already also directly within the common parent Category:Alemannic-language surnames, which perhaps could be documented and expanded. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and I would be inclined to support deletion of the parent too. Surnames by group of dialects is likely to run in verifiability issues. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, I have added that parent to the nomination. Its parent Category:Alemannic German language does not have a category for Alemannic-language words and phrases. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OR and WP:SMALLCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:34, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Motocross World Champions navigational boxes

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 18:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Motocross World Champions navigational boxes to Category:Motorcycle racing navigational boxes
 * Nominator's rationale: Since Category:Motocross World Champions templates does not exist, there's no need for a separate event navbox category. Merge templates into parent. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:22, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 18:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Volovsky District, Lipetsk Oblast to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Usmansky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Terbunsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lipetsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lev-Tolstovsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lebedyan to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lebedyansky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Krasninsky District, Lipetsk Oblast to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Dobrovsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Dankovsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Chaplyginsky District to Category:People from Lipetsk Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles in each category Rathfelder (talk) 10:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support for Now with no objection to recreating any that get to 5+ articles in the future. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:People from Leningrad Oblast

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Tikhvinsky District to Category:People from Leningrad Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Slantsevsky District to Category:People from Leningrad Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lodeynopolsky District to Category:People from Leningrad Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Kirishsky District to Category:People from Leningrad Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Boksitogorsky District to Category:People from Leningrad Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles in each Rathfelder (talk) 10:21, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support for Now with no objection to recreating any that get to 5+ articles in the future. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


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