Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 16



Category:People from Ryazan Oblast

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Zakharovsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Yermishinsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Starozhilovsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Shatsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Sasovo, Ryazan Oblast to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Sarayevsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Ryazhsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Novomichurinsk to Category:People from Pronsky District
 * Propose merging Category:People from Putyatinsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pitelinsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Miloslavsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Klepikovsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Chuchkovsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Alexandro-Nevsky District to Category:People from Ryazan Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles in each category Rathfelder (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Listify and merge by creating "Notable people" section in each location article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 13:22, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — Mugtheboss (talk) 14:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * These have now been listed. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:09, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Continuous pitch instruments

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:42, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting continuous pitch instruments
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OR. Most members do not mention that these instruments have a continuous pitch range. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 23:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Keep  . I notice the category pairs instruments that I never thought of together. Anything that can make one look at categorizing differently is useful.  I haven't thought of describing instruments using this concept,  but it should be useful to describe folk instruments that haven't any kind of stop,  such as a fret. Hornbostel-Sachs isn't the only way to classify types.Jacqke (talk) 23:00, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. It would be unusual for an article to say explicitly "X is a continuous pitch instrument"; from skimming the articles this tends to be implicit or otherwise trivially obvious. There are a few articles where it is entirely explicit, like in Fretless guitar (the position of the node of the string is continuously variable) or Theremin (the theremin's continuous pitch). But mostly it can be inferred implicitly. E.g. for string instruments, articles might say something like Violin family instruments [...] are not fretted (as in Violin family), which to me seems enough. It is implied less directly but still able to be inferred on other articles, like from reading the bits about how pitch is produced and controlled in Musical saw. But the solution for articles where this can't be inferred from the text would be to remove the category or alter the text, rather than deleting the whole category, no? Endwise (talk) 09:53, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * A characteristic to be implicitly inferred seems like the opposite of a WP:DEFINING characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:04, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Delete since both keep voters seem to confirm that this is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Keep -- This is clear case of a notable characteristic, but one so obvious that articles will not explicitly refer to it. The converse is keyed instruments, which can only be played at a series of predetermined pitches.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Northern franchise railway stations

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Northern franchise railway stations to Category:Railway stations by Northern Trains
 * Nominator's rationale: Align with all the other members of Category:Railway stations in Great Britain by train operating company. Franchise is also no longer technically correct, as franchising ceased to exist when the agreements were terminated in during the early days of the first COVID-19 lockdown and replaced by management contracts as described at Passenger rail franchising in Great Britain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraiptoune (talk • contribs) 04:57, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Admin note The category was not tagged by the user proposing this. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, the present name was arrived at following Categories for discussion/Log/2016 April 7 and then Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 1. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 07:59, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Oppose as the proposed name does not make sense with something missing, "owned by", "run by", "served by" or what? Keith D (talk) 21:06, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Greater Anglia franchise railway stations
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Category:People from Rostov Oblast

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:24, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Yegorlyksky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Volgodonskoy District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Verkhnedonskoy District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Tselinsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Sholokhovsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Semikarakorsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Salsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Rodionovo-Nesvetaysky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Peschanokopsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Orlovsky District, Rostov Oblast to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Oktyabrsky District, Rostov Oblast to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Novoshakhtinsk to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Neklinovsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Kuybyshevsky District, Rostov Oblast to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Konstantinovsky District, Rostov Oblast to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Kasharsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:People from Belokalitvinsky District to Category:People from Rostov Oblast
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles in each category Rathfelder (talk) 16:05, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Listify and merge as above. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:23, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 13:22, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — Mugtheboss (talk) 14:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * These have now been listed. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:04, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet people of Belarusian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Ukrainian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Russian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Lithuanian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Armenian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Azerbaijani descent
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People from caliphates

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all.  bibliomaniac  1  5  00:11, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming
 * Category:People of the Rashidun Caliphate to Category:People from the Rashidun Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:People from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:7th-century Umayyad people to Category:7th-century people from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:8th-century Umayyad people to Category:8th-century people from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Christians of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Christians from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Jews of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Jews from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Scientists of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Scientists from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Physicians of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Physicians from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Slaves of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Slaves from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Umayyad historians to Category:Historians of the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Women of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Women from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:Women poets of the Umayyad Caliphate to Category:Women poets from the Umayyad Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:People from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Abbasid Caliphate by century to Category:People from the Abbasid Caliphate by century
 * Category:8th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:8th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:9th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:9th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:10th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:10th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:11th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:11th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:12th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:12th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:13th-century people of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:13th-century people from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Calligraphers of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Calligraphers from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Families of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Families from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Jews of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Jews from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Musicians of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Musicians from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Poets of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Poets from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Women poets of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Women poets from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Scholars of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Scholars from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Philosophers of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Philosophers from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Sabian Scholars of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Sabian Scholars from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Scientists of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Scientists from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Astronomers of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Astronomers from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Mathematicians of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Mathematicians from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Physicians of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Physicians from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Slaves of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Slaves from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:Women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:Women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:8th-century women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:8th-century women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:9th-century women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:9th-century women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:10th-century women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:10th-century women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:12th-century women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:12th-century women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:13th-century women of the Abbasid Caliphate to Category:13th-century women from the Abbasid Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:People from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Fatimid Caliphate by century to Category:People from the Fatimid Caliphate by century
 * Category:10th-century people of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:10th-century people from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:11th-century people of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:11th-century people from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:12th-century people of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:12th-century people from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Copts in the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Copts from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Jews of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Jews from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Poets of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Poets from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Scholars of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Scholars from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Fatimid historians to Category:Historians from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:10th-century Fatimid historians to Category:10th-century historians from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:11th-century Fatimid historians to Category:11th-century historians from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Scientists of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Scientists from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Physicians of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Physicians from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Slaves of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Slaves from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:Women of the Fatimid Caliphate to Category:Women from the Fatimid Caliphate
 * Category:People of the Caliphate of Córdoba to Category:People from the Caliphate of Córdoba
 * Category:Scholars of the Umayyad Caliphate of Córdoba to Category:Scholars from the Umayyad Caliphate of Córdoba
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent in this earlier discussion about empires. Presumably caliphates should be treated the same way as empires. Some subcategories already use "from", they have not been included in this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Not support It seems incorrect. To use the word "From" indicate that these people were indeed from, for example, the Fatimid Caliphate, while in reality, they simply lived in the Fatimid Caliphate. In fact, almost all slaves were originally foreigners, and not from these places at all. So it will be factually incorrect to say that they were from these places. But to phrase it "of" simply mean that they lived in these places, not that they were from these places.--Aciram (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Whether we use "of" or "from", it both reflects people who lived in these places. However, with a number of occupations the usage of "of" is ambiguous, e.g. historians of country: are they studying the history of the country, or are they living in this country? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Its hard to agree that "from" indicate that these people lived in this country. It is true that "of" is ambigious, but that could be an advantage. "Of" state that the person were active and lived in the society in question, regardless if they were originally from this society. Normally, the usage of these categories is to find the people who lived in these societes: who formed and influenced them, by living in them. By using the word "from", we clearly state, that it is about people who were from these societes: they might live in another country, it might be a person who was born in the caliphate, but live their entire life in China, and thus in fact belonged to China rather than the Caliphate. While a slave, who was born in Denmark but lived their entire life in the Caliphate as a slave, woould in fact need to be categoriezed as from Denmark, because they were not from the Caliphate at all; they lived in the Caliphate their entire adult life, but they were not from the Caliphate, so it would be incorect to categorize them as from the Caliphate, when they are in fact from Denmark. So this name change is a bit unfortunate, and will confuse a lot of people, and result in it being harder to find people who belonged to certain societies, and influenced the societes they lived in, because the word focus on origin of birth, and not residence. --Aciram (talk) 11:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "From" is used for "living in" throughout the category tree. For example see the subcategories of Category:People by city in Alabama. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:14, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Support all - per similar recent cfds. 'People from the UK' would certainly include people in the UK. Oculi (talk) 23:21, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose These are people ruled by these Caliphates: "under" might be a better preposition. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That is a misunderstanding: people were not ruled by caliphates but by caliphs. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:04, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Whilst I support the need for standardization of categories, I also question the change to 'from'. Many people, in the medieval Islamic world just as the modern world, moved between states, and often entered these state from the notional 'outside': an Orthodox Christian Byzantine slave could become an Abbasid admiral; a pagan Slavic eunuch could become a Fatimid vizier; a pagan Turkic tribesman could go from an Abbasid soldier to found his own dynasty; a Nestorian Christian Iraqi bureaucrat might learn his trade at the Abbasid court and then move to half a dozen different courts; etc. etc. My understanding for these categories is that they contain people who were active in a particular state, not from it. And while I read the replies above that "from" can be read as "living in", it is, to my eyes, not the most immediate and natural reading. Hence I will oppose this move. Constantine  ✍  13:02, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: People of sultanates were recently renamed to people from sultanates, see Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 2. If this set is not carried then that set should presumably be reopened. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That earlier CFD discussion had one participant besides the nominator who supported the nomination, not exactly a broad-based consensus. And this "Of vs. From" debate goes even deeper into other CFD discussions as well. Maybe this is worth an RFC to make a firm decision on language (unless that has already been done?) rather than having to have many, large CFD nomination discussions. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:06, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Support; there is no reason to name citizens of caliphates differently from those of empires. Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_4 is the primary precedent. By nominating a bunch of prominent empires, that CFD was intended to establish a new rule using "from" in place of "of", and resulted in an update of the relevant guideline Category_names. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * per precedent.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1666638901157:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2022_October_16" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


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Seasonal events by country in South Asia
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Category:2021 ICC T20 World Cup
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:53, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:2021 ICC T20 World Cup to Category:2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
 * Nominator's rationale: The following edition 2022 was named correctly, this is the odd one naming 2021 ICC T20 World Cup different from the tournament main page name itself. Kirubar (talk) 14:27, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Support as per article title 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup. This was the first one to include "men's" in the tournament name, which is probably why the category was created at the old-style tournament name. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Cricketers at the 2016 T20 World Cup
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:08, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting cricketers at the 2016 t20 world cup
 * Nominator's rationale: Only this page is categorised for Men's T20 World Cup, not created for previous editions. Moreover, 100+ players took part. Only 13 players categorised under this. This standalone & confusing category has to be deleted i.e. Gayle only played at 2016 T20 WC. Whether it may be expanded for all editions in future, until then. Kirubar (talk) 14:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand to other editions of competition / add other players. We have similar categories for the 50-over World Cup, the T20 is now almost as prestigious. Spike &#39;em (talk) 14:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NONDEFINING. There is a men's T20 cricket world cup every 2-4 years, and so if we have them for every tournament, it would generate a huge number of pointless categories on biographical articles. The existence of categories for any other sports tournaments isn't an appropriate justification for this category existing, as per WP:OSE- the 50 over ones should probably be deleted too. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I know this is probably more OSE in your eyes, but I think it is a useful comparison... As a very rough survey : football and hockey also have categories for appearing at that sport's World Cup, ice hockey and rugby (neither code) do not. Any Olympian seems to be categorised by the games the appear at (including the sports mentioned here). I'd say winnning a World tournament as a player is clearly defining (they will often be described to as such), but I can see that just appearing, particularly at an early stage is less clear. Spike &#39;em (talk) 10:57, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Not sure playing in a specific T20 world cup is suitable enough for a category, T20 World Cup cricketers would be a better category, encompassing all T20 World Cups. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Principality of Iberia
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Late modern period
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Category:Northern Nigerian Publishing Company Limited Books
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting northern nigerian publishing company limited books
 * Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT without enough other articles to populate it -- and even if it could be expanded enough to be keepable, it would have to be renamed. Bearcat (talk) 07:58, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, not enough articles fit the category to make this worthwhile. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


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