Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 24



Muslim historians
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Late modern period
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Category:Principality of Iberia

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:56, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting principality of iberia
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category level, the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge to parent, rather than delete. The one article will make a good main article for the subcategory.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The article and the subcategory are already in the parent or elsewhere in that tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


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Seasonal events by country in South Asia
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Category:Soviet people of Azerbaijani descent

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Soviet Azerbaijani people. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting soviet people of azerbaijani descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Azerbaijan was part of the Soviet Union Rathfelder (talk) 10:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:07, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:42, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -- USSR was a federal state, where individuals had internal passports setting out their (ethnic) nationality. It was thus possible to have Tartar or Buryat nationality, though their home states were only federal members of RFSSR.  Azerbaijan was more than that, one of a dozen or so states united in USSR, which became independent republics when USSR was dissolved.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I dont think that means we can categorise these people as Soviet people of Azerbaijani descent, any more than you can characterise British people as being of Scottish descent. All the  Azerbaijani people were also Soviet people at that time.  We have Category:Soviet Azerbaijani people. It isnt an issue about descent. Rathfelder (talk) 18:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Soviet Azerbaijani people. My objection was misplaced.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge to Category:Soviet Azerbaijani people.Bigwig7 (talk) 16:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet people of Armenian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Soviet Armenians. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting soviet people of armenian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Armenia was part of the Soviet Union Rathfelder (talk) 10:47, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:08, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Keep  -- USSR was a federal state, where individuals had internal passports setting out their (ethnic) nationality. It was thus possible to have Tartar or Buryat nationality, though their home states were only federal members of RFSSR.  Azerbaijan was more than that, one of a dozen or so states united in USSR, which became independent republics when USSR was dissolved.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:25, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * How is this different from Category:Soviet Armenians?Rathfelder (talk) 18:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Soviet Armenians. My objection was misplaced.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge to Category:Soviet Armenians.Bigwig7 (talk) 16:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet people of Lithuanian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (Weak keep.) (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting soviet people of lithuanian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Lithuania was part of the Soviet Union Rathfelder (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:08, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -- USSR was a federal state, where individuals had internal passports setting out their (ethnic) nationality. It was thus possible to have Tartar or Buryat nationality, though their home states were only federal members of RFSSR.  Azerbaijan was more than that, one of a dozen or so states united in USSR, which became independent republics when USSR was dissolved.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:25, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Surely they were Lithuanian people, not people of Lithuanian descent?Rathfelder (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Obviously strong keep. The category is purposely used for people born in Soviet Union before the Lithuanian annexation when they were 2 different countries. Could also be used for people born between Act of the Re-Establishment of the State of Lithuania and Soviet Union's cessation to exist.Respublik (talk) 11:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That still does not address the descent part of it. Being in an X people by Y descent category implies one's parents or grandparents immigrated to X from Y, and that is not the case here at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Both articles currently categorised relate to people where the normal descent criteria apply: in both cases the father was a Lithuanian expatriate. This makes this different from the other cases on which I voted before.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:22, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Soviet people of Russian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Ukrainian descent
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Category:Soviet people of Belarusian descent
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Category:Greater Anglia franchise railway stations
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Category:Fight Club (franchise)
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Big Bang Entertainments
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Category:British viceroys educated at Eton College
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