Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 1



Category:Bodyweight exercise

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Bodyweight exercise to Category:Bodyweight exercises
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a set category for bodyweight exercises so it should be plural per WP:Categorization rules (t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and WP:SETCAT. Privybst (talk) 11:57, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Medieval Islam

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Medieval Islam to Category:Medieval Islamic world
 * Nominator's rationale: The category is about a civilization rather than a religion. Privybst (talk) 20:37, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support as a matter of common sense, and we already have an example of this format in Category:Religion in the medieval Islamic world. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Orientls (talk) 13:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support as for recent nom concerning related categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:45, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject Religious texts participants

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject religious texts participants
 * Nominator's rationale: WikiProject is now defunct. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Would it make sense to merge to Category:WikiProject Religion members? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No, because the category is mostly populated by userboxes that don't mention that WikiProject. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, then delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Heroes of the Storm characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The option of having a list in the article was also rejected at Talk:Heroes_of_the_Storm. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:46, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting heroes of the storm characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining. These are pretty much all characters from other games who just appear in this crossover. ★Trekker (talk) 15:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- This is a well-populated category. Pure deletion should not be the outcome, but if nom is right, it might be merged.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:48, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If it is not defining, pure deletion should be the outcome. I do not see any proper merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Dead by Daylight characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dead by daylight characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining, all these characters (except David King) are guest characters in the game. ★Trekker (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I would argue that inclusion in DBD is a defining characteristic for more than a few of the characters- mentions to their inclusion are present in the lede sections of Heather Mason, Pyramid Head, Nemesis (Resident Evil) and Nancy Wheeler to name a few. I don't see how this situation is different from Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters, considering how both categories lack original characters, but that category has been put up for deletion before as well. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 21:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Absolutely not, and the Super Smash Bros. fighters category shouldn't exist either, it survived last CFD by pure luck.★Trekker (talk) 21:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you insist, then I suggest that you nominate that category for deletion as well. I'm in the camp that both should be kept, but it is unjust for both to be on the Wiki if there is no distinguishing reason why one crossover franchise can stay and one has to be removed. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 04:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was the one who nominated it a couple of months ago, it would be bad form for me to renominate it so soon again.★Trekker (talk) 11:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete SMALLCAT with main article and 1 entry. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:50, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There were over 20 entries but they were all removed after I restored the category. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 03:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah I removed it from all the articles where the topic is non-defining and violated performance categorization guidlines.★Trekker (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


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Template:Revolvers-stub

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 * The result of the discussion was: wrong venue. A template is being nominated, not a category. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:19, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting


 * Nominator's rationale: Unused plaintext template. Suggest redirecting to Template:Weapon-stub Template:Revolver-stub. --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 02:03, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Redirect per nom. Is there some reason you brought this to CfD instead of just boldly redirecting it? * Pppery * it has begun...  18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was unsure about how stub templates are sorted and it seems that the creator wanted to do something else. --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 02:03, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Téléfilm Canada films

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ✗  plicit  01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting téléfilm canada films
 * Nominator's rationale: Telefilm is not a film studio, but merely a funding agency that provides grants to the studios, primarily for films by new and emerging filmmakers -- so it frequently gets "with the participation of" credits on Canadian films, but is never the producing studio because that's not what it does. This category, further, was created only a few months ago by a now-blocked editor with no established record of editing on Canadian film and a habit of obsessive overcategorization, but was never deemed as desirable or warranted by those who actually edit on Canadian film. As well, they randomly selected just 20 films for the category, out of the hundreds upon thousands of films that received Telefilm grants -- but there's no value in making any attempt to hunt down the stragglers, because (a) there's no comprehensive list that can be consulted (even Telefilm itself doesn't self-publish a complete directory of every film it's ever given a grant to since 1967), and (b) films are defined by the studios that made them, not by the agencies or companies that happened to give money to the studios. Also, it's unclear why the creator used the French form of the name instead of the English one — this is the English Wikipedia, so even if there were grounds to keep this it would have to be renamed to "Telefilm Canada films" anyway. Bearcat (talk) 14:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Kingdom of Ireland
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ✗  plicit  01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kingdom of Ireland to Category:Early Modern Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: The same period, contains only two subcategories. Privybst (talk) 13:34, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. It is an odd situation that the two categories co-exist even without being directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. They are essentially the same thing.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect, to discourage re-creation, as there are three sub-cats with "Kingdom of Ireland" in their names. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Alt 1 What about Category:History of Ireland (1536–1800)? After all, the Late Modern equivalent exists under a similar name: Category:History of Ireland (1801–1923). There should be consistency between the two categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel Lodged (talk • contribs) 11:52, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * this should a separate discussion. First the merging, then we can discuss renaming. --Privybst (talk) 11:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Ulster loyalism
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Category:17th-century British people by occupation
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Tropical storm "disambiguation" categories
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Atlantic hurricane disambiguation pages to Category:Atlantic hurricane set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:Australian region cyclone disambiguation pages to Category:Australian region cyclone set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:North Indian cyclone disambiguation pages to Category:North Indian cyclone set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:Pacific hurricane disambiguation pages to Category:Pacific hurricane set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:South Pacific cyclone disambiguation pages to Category:South Pacific cyclone set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:South-West Indian Ocean cyclone disambiguation pages to Category:South-West Indian Ocean cyclone set index articles
 * Propose renaming Category:Pacific typhoon disambiguation pages to Category:Pacific typhoon set index articles
 * Nominator's rationale: All of these categories have "disambiguation pages" in their titles, but every one of the pages contained in these categories uses a "set index article" template, namely Storm index, not a disambiguation template. The categories should be renamed to accurately reflect what they contain. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  12:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment RussBot filled Category:Pacific typhoon set index articles and Category:Australian region cyclone set index articles with pages and they are currently redirect categories that should be empty. This seems premature considering that this CFD discussion just began. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * That was done before my bold category renaming was reverted by another user. The bot is in the process of moving them back. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:21, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, some of the pages contain "(disambiguation)" in their name. This might suggest that they were meant to be disambiguation pages after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, moreover, many other storm name pages are the redirect target of pages with "(disambiguation)" in their name. Also, most of the pages are, I believe, marked as DAB on their talk page. Drdpw (talk) 12:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support renaming. Any pages with (disambiguation) should be moved (or swapped) to another title. These are not disambiguation pages and the category name is currently confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment many of these pages are titled "List of storms named …"; those pages with "(disambiguation)" in their title could could be moved accordingly. Drdpw (talk) 12:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note & question, Category:Tropical cyclone disambiguation pages is the parent category for those listed above. If the requested move gets the green light, the parent category ought to be renamed as well, yes? Drdpw (talk) 20:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Rename to match the contents. Yes, the parent category should be renamed to. Yes, (disambiguation) page titles should be sorted out somehow. Yes, the entire concept of "set index articles" is a mess. None of these things influence the merits of this CfD. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Roads in Hong Kong
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 * The result of the discussion was: Diffuse to new sub-categories. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Roads in Hong Kong to Category:Roads on Hong Kong Island, Category:Roads in Kowloon, Category:Roads in New Kowloon and Category:Roads in the New Territories
 * Nominator's rationale: Split according to the four statutory regions of the territory. 42.200.55.111 (talk) 08:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * With more than 200 articles directly in this category the proposal seems a plausible way of diffusion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support only on the condition that the existing category will be retained and kept as a parent category of the new categories and as a direct subcategory under Category:Roads by country so as to preserve the link of the entire roads cats hierarchy. 203.145.94.160 (talk) 03:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair point, it should be diffusing rather than splitting. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Diffuse -- leaving the existing cat as a container. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional natural features of Earth
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional natural features of Earth to Category:Fictional landforms
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to align with Category:Landforms. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 12:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Fictional landforms may be not of Earth, and the proposed new title would accomodate that. Daranios (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Split to Category:Fictional landforms and Category:Fictional bodies of water to parallel the real-world structure. The category currently includes a mixture of both. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:25, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. It can be implemented as rename as nominated, and manually moving some of the content thereafter. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:38, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Would be fine with me. Daranios (talk) 19:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination. Category:Fictional bodies of water is currently a subcategory and could easily be re-categorized through the ordinary editing process. Jontesta (talk) 19:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Gymnastics manoeuvres
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.  ✗  plicit  01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Gymnastics manoeuvres to Category:Gymnastics elements
 * Nominator's rationale: That is what these are called in official gymnastics lingo, see Gymnastics elements named after Simone Biles, Gymnastics elements named after Romanian gymnasts, etc. In addition this category also contains static positions such as planche, bridge (exercise), etc. (I moved them to a new subcategory) which are not maneuvers. I could also support a rename to "gymnastics skills". (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Privybst (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Druze people by nationality subcategories
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