Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 15



Category:Fictional deities by gender

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional deities by gender to Category:Fictional deities
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. No plausible room for expansion beyond the gender binary. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 10:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom as redundant and too small. Jontesta (talk) 00:09, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Russian and Soviet theatre directors
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 23%23Category:Russian and Soviet theatre directors

Category:Female–female vocal duets
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 23%23Category:Female–female vocal duets

Category:Works based on real people

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:38, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Works based on real people
 * Option A: rename to Category:Works about real people 
 * Option B: rename to Category:Works based on people 
 * Two alternative suggestions by User:Peterkingiron and User:jc37 in this earlier discussion. This is a procedural nomination, I do not have an opinion about it myself. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Option A was proposed by User:Johnbod at first. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  01:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Option C would be Category:Works about people ... the word 'real' seems redundant, as remarked in the earlier discussion. Oculi (talk) 13:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * do you have an opinion about option C? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * OPtion C might do, but it needs a clear headnote indicating that it concerns depictions of actual people that involve interpretation or invention and are thus not history or biography. This should include many bio-pics and all historical fiction.  At the other end, pure fiction (about invented people) needs to be excluded.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:03, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Option A, or C, but preference for A as novels etc are all about "people", just not real ones (normally) so "real" seems useful. Johnbod (talk) 02:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment, this discussion has been relisted on three separate occasions — two of which garnering no response — without a clear consensus, perhaps this should be closed as per WP:RELIST? — Mugtheboss (talk) 14:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Kingdom of England emigrants
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 23%23Category:Kingdom of England emigrants

Category:1945 establishments in East Germany

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. These categories have very recently been nominated. There is nothing to suggest a new discussion is necessary. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:1945 establishments in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1945 establishments in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1946 establishments in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1946 establishments in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1947 establishments in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1948 establishments in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1948 establishments in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1945 in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1946 in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1947 in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1948 in East Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1948 in East German sport
 * Propose deleting Category:1945 in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1946 in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1947 in West Germany
 * Propose deleting Category:1948 in West Germany
 * Nominator's rationale: delete as these shouldn't have been created in the first place. Santiago Claudio (talk) 09:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Also, the categories appear to have been emptied out of process. Who did that? Please restore the contents to allow a consensus to be formed. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all. These categories may perhaps be better if renamed, but they should not be deleted.  After WWII, Germany was de facto divided into Soviet and Allied zones, and the categories should be renamed to reflect that.
 * I thought we discussed this before? Anyway, there were four military zones, not two. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle: I don't recall any previous discussion. Do you have a link?  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A very recent discussion was 2022 September 4#Category:1945 establishments in East Germany. I don't know why the same nominator is objecting to redirects. Oculi (talk) 15:36, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, @Oculi. I hadn't spotted that these are all redirects.
 * @Santiago Claudio: why do you object to the redirects?  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:38, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I found them anachronistic. Why did these users create these categories? Sillyfolkboy (1948 establishments in East Germany), Hugo999 (1947/1948 in East/West Germany), Muhends (1946 in East Germany), Hariva (1945 in East Germany), Yamaha5 (1945/1946 in West Germany), S.A. Julio (1948 in East German sport) & Egeymi (rest) were wrong! Santiago Claudio (talk) 03:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * redirects are often wrong, these pages merely exist to point Wikipedia users in the right direction. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment A previous CFD on these categories was just closed 3 days ago. Why renominate them in less than a week? Santiago Claudio, you shouldn't make repetitive nominations until you get the result you are looking for. Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all as cat-redirects. The whole purpose of cat-redirects is to prevent mis-categorisation or the inadvertent re-creation of duplicate categories.  They are all empty, and correctly so, but many editors will be inexperienced and provide inappropriate categories.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Like a Dragon (series)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Like a Dragon (series) to Category:Yakuza (series)
 * Nominator's rationale: The games were manually moved to a new category without consensus and it should all be merged back and this category locked. The main article remains titled Yakuza and the move proposal has failed to garner support. (No objections to the original category being moved to Category:Yakuza (franchise) before they are merged back though). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support - Per nom. Move done prematurely and without consensus. Ding Chavez (talk) 05:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. It's been 3 days and the original editors who made this move have not edited since to self-revert. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:35, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. There aren't sources to support this as a separate series. (Not yet, anyway.) Jontesta (talk) 00:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 23%23Category:Foo by country by century