Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 16



Category:Fictional extraterrestrial royalty

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional extraterrestrial royalty
 * Propose deleting fictional extraterrestrial princesses
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:NARROWCAT. Too narrow an intersection between ET's and royalty for a category to be needed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:09, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OVERCAT. Not enough notable articles for this grouping to be necessary. Jontesta (talk) 21:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Can easily be expanded, e.g. King Dedede does not belong in either subcategory, and the two current subcategories respectively contain 42 pages, so it is not WP:SMALLCAT. It is unclear, however, if NARROWCAT still applies as an intersection that does not warrant splitting. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support the first in principle, as a redundant category layer with only two subcategories, but merge to Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters rather than straight delete. I am not so sure about the second, if not kept at least merge to Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters and Category:Fictional princesses. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - surely fictional extraterrestrial royalty is not limited to emperors and princesses. In any case the nom should be 'upmerge to all parents', not delete. Oculi (talk) 10:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * By coincidence the first category does not need to be merged to Category:Fictional royalty because the two subcats already are already in other parts of that tree. A merge to Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Keep  I see no relevance of OVERCAT here, and Oculi has already pointed to scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 14:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Dhatki people
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Frogs and toads in culture

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (option B). (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Frogs in culture to Category:Frogs and toads in culture
 * Propose renaming Category:Frogs in art to Category:Frogs and toads in art
 * Propose renaming Category:Films about frogs to Category:Films about frogs and toads
 * Propose renaming Category:Frog mascots to Category:Frog and toad mascots
 * Propose renaming Category:Rabbit mascots to Category:Rabbit and hare mascots
 * Nominator's rationale: To match some other existing categories in the surrounding hierarchies. The last four were tagged by user:Ali17082001 in August without starting a discussion. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  21:02, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, instead we might rename the surrounding "frogs and toads" categories to just "frogs". At least there should be some consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Toad is just a common name used for various families of frogs, based on a perceived similarity in their appearance. They are not a distinct taxonomic group. Dimadick (talk) 13:58, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Rename any 'frogs and toads' categories to 'frogs' and create 'toads' subcats if necessary, as is a subcat of . Support the last one as Category:Leporidae corresponds to 'rabbits and hares'. Oculi (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, here's Option B:
 * Propose renaming Category:Books about frogs and toads to Category:Books about frogs
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series about frogs and toads to Category:Television series about frogs
 * Propose renaming Category:Animated television series about frogs and toads to Category:Animated television series about frogs
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional frogs and toads to Category:Fictional frogs
 * Propose renaming Category:Rabbit mascots to Category:Rabbit and hare mascots
 * – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support option B, the usage of "toads" in the category name is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Professors by rank of the Academy of Arts

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:47, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Professors by rank of the Academy of Arts to Category:Professors of the Academy of Arts
 * Nominator's rationale: This category relates to the Imperial Academy of Arts. I cant see what "by rank" signifies, but perhaps I'm missing something. Rathfelder (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Rename but to (assuming this is what they are - it should be in Category:Faculty by university or college in Russia). We don't have a 'Professors' tree. Oculi (talk) 22:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Alt rename per Oculi, a matter of WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Should it not actually be Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel now? Rathfelder (talk) 20:23, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Yes, it should probably now be Alt2: Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel, per the renamed Category:Academic personnel by university or college in Russia. Oculi (talk) 21:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Alt2 rename to Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel, per more recent precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Alawite communities in Syria
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Category:Categories by raion of Ukraine

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Categories by raion of Ukraine to Category:Populated places by second-level administrative subdivision
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, most categories by raion have been upmerged in previous CfD discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Rococo architecture by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Austria to Category:Rococo architecture in Austria
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Belgium to Category:Rococo architecture in Belgium
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Brazil to Category:Rococo architecture in Brazil
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of the Czech Republic to Category:Rococo architecture in the Czech Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Denmark to Category:Rococo architecture in Denmark
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of England to Category:Rococo architecture in England
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Germany to Category:Rococo architecture in Germany
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Italy to Category:Rococo architecture in Italy
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Norway to Category:Rococo architecture in Norway
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Peru to Category:Rococo architecture in Peru (over redirect)
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Poland to Category:Rococo architecture in Poland (over redirect)
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Portugal to Category:Rococo architecture in Portugal
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Spain to Category:Rococo architecture in Spain
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Russia to Category:Rococo architecture in Russia
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Slovakia to Category:Rococo architecture in Slovakia
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Turkey to Category:Rococo architecture in Turkey
 * Propose renaming Category:Rococo architecture of Ukraine to Category:Rococo architecture in Ukraine
 * Nominator's rationale: All other styles by country use "in". – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support all per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per C2C. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 21:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support all per nom. --Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Province of Saxony
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African-American businesspeople
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Category:Moldovan National Division seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan National Division seasons to Category:Moldovan Super Liga seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:30, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @GiantSnowman That's where I tried to put them, but apparently I chose the wrong option in Twinkle. Sørhaug (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think Twinkle doesn't work for speedy category renames. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per nom, C2D. As this was intended for the speedy section, this could be done immediately (as it's been more than 48 since proposed, and no objections). <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Moldovan National Division players
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan National Division players to Category:Moldovan Super Liga players
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Moldovan National Division managers
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan National Division managers to Category:Moldovan Super Liga managers
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Moldovan National Division
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan National Division to Category:Moldovan Super Liga
 * Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:1911 establishments in Lebanon
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1911 establishments in Lebanon to Category:1911 establishments in Ottoman Syria
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, Lebanon did not exist yet before 1920 and we do not have a category tree by year for Lebanon before 1920. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support, correct action. --Egeymi (talk) 09:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. --Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:NASCAR races at Dover International Speedway
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:52, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:NASCAR races at Dover International Speedway to Category:NASCAR races at Dover Motor Speedway
 * Nominator's rationale: Track has not used the name "Dover International Speedway" in almost a year; has renamed to Dover Motor Speedway since being purchased by Speedway Motorsports, Inc. Nascar9919 (talk) 05:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support meets speedy criteria C2D, as Dover Motor Speedway is main article name. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


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Architecture by country
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Small architecture categories
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 * The result of the discussion was: soft delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:56, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:


 * Category:Architecture of Abkhazia
 * Category:Architecture of the Bahamas


 * Category:Architecture of Bahrain
 * Category:Architecture of Botswana
 * Category:Architecture of Burundi
 * Category:Architecture of the Central African Republic
 * Category:Architecture of Chad
 * Category:Architecture of the Comoros
 * Category:Architecture of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
 * Category:Architecture of Czechoslovakia
 * Category:Architecture of Djibouti
 * Category:Architecture of East Timor
 * Category:Architecture of Eritrea
 * Category:Architecture of Eswatini
 * Category:Architecture of Gabon
 * Category:Architecture of the Gambia
 * Category:Architecture of Grenada
 * Category:Architecture of Guinea
 * Category:Architecture of Guinea-Bissau
 * Category:Architecture of Guyana
 * Category:Architecture of Kazakhstan
 * Category:Architecture of Kiribati
 * Category:Architecture of Kyrgyzstan
 * Category:Architecture of Lesotho
 * Category:Architecture of Liberia
 * Category:Architecture of the Maldives
 * Category:Architecture of the Marshall Islands
 * Category:Architecture of Mauritania
 * Category:Architecture of the Federated States of Micronesia
 * Category:Architecture of Montserrat
 * Category:Architecture of Nauru
 * Category:Architecture of Nicaragua
 * Category:Architecture of Northern Cyprus
 * Category:Architecture of Papua New Guinea
 * Category:Architecture of Qatar
 * Category:Architecture of Rwanda
 * Category:Architecture of Saint Lucia
 * Category:Architecture of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
 * Category:Architecture of San Marino
 * Category:Architecture of Seychelles
 * Category:Architecture of Sierra Leone
 * Category:Architecture of the Solomon Islands
 * Category:Architecture of South Sudan
 * Category:Architecture of Suriname
 * Category:Architecture of Tajikistan
 * Category:Architecture of Tonga
 * Category:Architecture of Transnistria
 * Category:Architecture of Turkmenistan
 * Category:Architecture of Tuvalu
 * Category:Architecture of Vanuatu
 * Category:Architecture of Western Sahara
 * Category:Architecture of Zambia


 * Nominator's rationale: these each contain only a "Buildings and structures" sub-category. Those are already contained within Category:Architecture by country via Category:Buildings and structures by country. WP:SOFTDELETE until there is at least one more thing to put in them, e.g. an article on Architecture in Foo, or a sub-cat of Fooian architects. If not deleted, rename using "in" as above. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support soft deletion, for now it is a redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support other than Czechoslovakia, which has architects. The others do not: see User:Oculi/sandbox3. Oculi (talk) 17:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


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