Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 6



Category:Local political office-holders in Japan by prefecture

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 * The result of the discussion was: partial merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Local political office-holders in Japan by prefecture to Category:Politics of Japan by prefecture
 * Nominator's rationale: Partial merge, just add to that parent, then delete. This is an unnecessary layer that adds nothing helpful for navigation. It was created by a user who is now blocked. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Partial merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Privybst (talk) 07:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:New Thought schools

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting new thought schools
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, the articles are not clearly about schools and they are both in Category:New Thought organizations anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. Storchy (talk) 08:09, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per Marcocapelle. I think that Category:New Thought denominations can be upmerged into Category:New Thought organizations too. --Privybst (talk) 07:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Local political office-holders in Nigeria by state

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Local political office-holders in Nigeria by state to Category:Local politicians in Nigeria
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer with only one subcat at present. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Mexicali Aquilas players
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 14%23Category:Mexicali Aquilas players

Former populated places in Ukraine by region‎

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete per nomination. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:06, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Former populated places in Ukraine by region to Category:Former populated places in Ukraine
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places by raion in Ukraine
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places in Khmelnytskyi Oblast
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places in Lviv Oblast
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places in Poltava Oblast to
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places in Zhytomyr Oblast
 * Propose merging Category:Former populated places in Zolochiv Raion, Lviv Oblast to Category:Former populated places in Ukraine
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places of Ivankiv Raion
 * Propose deleting Category:Former populated places of Narodychi Raion
 * Nominator's rationale: delete/merge per WP:SMALLCAT, too few former populated places at oblast or raion level. A merge is seldom needed because most articles are already in some other subcategory of Category:Former populated places in Ukraine. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  08:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support in principle but many of these need to be merged into the first target Category:Former populated places in Ukraine. I sampled two cases, one was in the Chernobyl exclusion zone, but that is not a subcat.  Another is in submerged places in Ukraine, which is also not a subcat.  Either these categories explaining reasons for depopulation need to be in Category:Former populated places in Ukraine or the deletions need to be replaced by mergers to that.  I do not mine which.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Category:Ghost towns in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone is actually a grandchild category. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * For clarification, User:Peterkingiron and I agree on the fact that the content should stay in the tree of Category:Former populated places in Ukraine. My point is just that they do so anyway in the cases where I proposed deletion. If there remains doubt about that then just merge instead of delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Question to are you intentionally excluding the contents from also being merged to the second parent "History of XXX Oblast" in each case? – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:39, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Former populated places categories surely belong in a history tree, but for articles about former populated places it is less intuitive to me. I would not strongly object though. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I did this for the article Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, and for the few instances not in that zone. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Submerged settlements in Ukraine

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Submerged settlements in Ukraine to Category:Submerged places and Category:Former populated places in Ukraine
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, only three articles, and no other country has a subcategory within Category:Submerged places. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  08:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- Are we sure that the potential population is only 3? Sunken cities (see nom above) has loads of potential members for a US sibling category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * US should be the first country to have an own subcategory, not Ukraine. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no race to be "first". If you can defend the US having a subcategory, then any other country can automatically have a subcategory too the moment somebody deigns to create one. If any exist at all, then all are fair game, and there's no "the US must be first" rule. Bearcat (talk) 13:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. There are more than enough articles about US settlements in the parent category to justify a subcategory for the US the moment anybody deigns to take on the job of creating one, and a category for the Netherlands would also be entirely possible to construct from List of settlements lost to floods in the Netherlands even though not everything in that list has actually been added to this category at all — and even so, it's already not at all true that there are no other subcategories by country: while it isn't named "Submerged settlements in Canada", the subcategory for is a Canadian-exclusive category that could potentially be renamed to  (or alternatively kept as a subcategory of one if it's possible to identify other submerged settlements outside of Stormont County). And for added bonus, scratch what I said about "the moment anybody deigns to take on the job" of creating a US subcategory, because I just did the deed. Bearcat (talk) 12:33, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It is nice to have a discussion about other countries but the nomination was just about Ukraine. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And your "argument", such as it was, was precisely that no other by-country subcategories existed yet — and therefore the potential or actual existence of other by-country subcategories is 100 per cent germane to the discussion. How else is anybody supposed to discuss the nomination at all if we're not allowed to address the substance of what you said? Bearcat (talk) 13:08, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, I should have phrased that differently. The intention behind that comment was that the smallcat exception rule does not apply. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:New Thought terminology

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:New Thought terminology to Category:New Thought
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, original New Thought terms (if there are any) can better be put in Category:New Thought beliefs. This list mostly contains general spiritual and esotheric terms. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nomination. Also WP:OVERCAT, that category currently only contains one list article, with slim chances of adding any more. Storchy (talk) 12:26, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per above. --Privybst (talk) 07:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:New Thought movement

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:New Thought movement to Category:New Thought
 * Nominator's rationale: New Thought is itself a movement, so this child category is redundant, and makes it harder to find sub-categories. Storchy (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:34, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Films about the Sri Lankan Civil War

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 * The result of the discussion was: reverse merge and purge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Films about the Sri Lankan Civil War to Category:Sri Lankan Civil War in film
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in the category. Kailash29792 (talk)  03:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Reverse merge The categories are similar in scope, and the former is consistent with the established naming convention for works by topic. –Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a difference in the naming styles. There are more films where the Civil War is not the main focus but still a key plot point, like Thenali. Don't make this like the debate over Die Hard's status as a Christmas film. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  04:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge per LaundryPizza03 and purge films for which the war is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


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Category:Deniers of Japanese war crimes
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:29, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting deniers of japanese war crimes
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OPINIONCAT and WP:CONTENTIOUSLABEL. Deniers of the Uyghur genocide category was also deleted with a similar line of reasoning. Madame Necker (talk) 01:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete I may renominate Category:Holocaust deniers next. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, and I second LaundryPizza; other subcategories of Category:Conspiracy theorists should be discussed as well. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, just having an opinion is not a basis for categorization. I would not oppose a category for "denial activists", at least in theory, but most people in this category would not belong there. Nobukatsu Fujioka has been put in Category:Historical negationism and that seems alright. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: this is one of several genocide denial categories which have previously been discussed as a group – see links at Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 2. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems we have local consensus either in the earlier discussion or here. Procedurally it is probably useful to start the group nomination again with all editors of both discussions involved. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not a basis for categorization. Sometimes subjective and certainly open to change. Doczilla  @SUPERHEROLOGIST 18:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. If sufficient RS describe them as such this should not be a labeling issue. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 18:19, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Marcocapelle. But I would not oppose a category for "denial activists". --Privybst (talk) 09:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


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