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Category:Comedy and humor podcasts

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 22:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Comedy and humor podcasts to Category:Comedy podcasts
 * Nominator's rationale: I have never seen a reliable source use the phrase "Humor podcasts", whereas there are hundreds of reliable sources that use the phrase "Comedy podcasts" (i.e., , , , , , and ). The word "humor" is WP:NONDEFINING and unnecessary. It makes the category unnecessarily long, "Comedy podcasts" is much more precise. TipsyElephant (talk) 21:04, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename but also Reparent The noms case is convincing, but that means this category should be moved from under Category:Humor media to under Category:Comedy by medium. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:10, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Football leagues in Slovakia by season

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Football leagues in Slovakia by season to Category:Seasons of football leagues in Slovakia
 * Nominator's rationale: better name for a subcategory Michael H (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Question The parent category, Category:Seasons in Slovak football leagues, contains only this category. Should that parent be included in this nomination or does it serve a different purpose? - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:14, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * i didnt noticed, that category to be fair, its a mess and i have no clue what to do now Michael H (talk) 07:03, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I looked around to help out and it looks like this name format is standard in the Category:Association football league seasons by country tree. The Slovakia category had never been placed in that tree though so I just added it. I did likewise with the parent category I mentioned above. (I must confess these naming formats strike me as odd too but I wouldn't favor making the Slovak one different than all the others.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 08:31, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per naming convention in parent category . I also note that the nominator has been blocked for CIR. GiantSnowman 08:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose another of this CIR editor's rename requests that would break established, consistent naming system. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:K-pop-inspired girl groups from England

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:K-pop music groups. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting k-pop-inspired girl groups from england
 * Propose deleting k-pop-inspired girl groups from the united kingdom
 * Nominator's rationale: One cat made just to contain the other, and the other made just to contain one group, and neither even make sense as "K-pop-inspired" runs counter to the actual article for Kaachi which consistently calls them a K-pop group and never uses the word "inspire". QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 18:43, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * In that case, shouldn't it be merged to Category:K-pop music groups? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think that would work. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 22:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Acting presidents by country
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Category:Fictional Iranian people by occupation

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Unopposed after 7 days. Undeletion can be requested at WP:REFUND. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:04, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional Iranian people by occupation to Category:Fictional Iranian people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional Iranian people by ethnic or national origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:03, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional iranian people by ethnic or national origin
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, the articles in the two subcategories aren't about Iranian characters at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete No conceptual objection to category but it's effectively empty since the subcats are misplaced. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:24, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional people of the Persian Empire

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Unopposed after 7 days. Undeletion can be requested at WP:REFUND. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:03, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional people of the Persian Empire to Category:Fictional Iranian people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, Persian Empire is ambiguous, it currently redirects to Achaemenid Empire but none of the three articles is about the Achaemenid Empire. By the way I wonder if Persian Empire shouldn't be redirected to Persian Empire (disambiguation) instead of to Achaemenid Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:FIFA Women's World Cup songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against separate discussions. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:02, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fifa women's world cup songs
 * Nominator's rationale: It is the only subcategory in Category:FIFA Women's World Cup music. It is very unlikely anything will be added in future. Dutchy45 (talk) 13:05, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose/Comment I'm open to a merge instead of a delete but I think I broader nom is needed with this category, the music parent category, and the Category:FIFA Women's World Cup official songs and anthems subcategory. I suspect we don't need all 3. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 08:31, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep the 'songs' category and up merge into it. GiantSnowman 08:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT people with disabilities

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lgbt people with disabilities
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEGRS as this intersection an overcategorization. I also think this runs awfowl of WP:PEOPLECAT, WP:CATEGRS, WP:CATLGBT Mason (talk) 22:41, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose Category:LGBT people is a long-established WP:DEFINING category tree, and a 2014 RfC established that Category:People with disabilities should exist (as a containercat), see its talk page. WP:OCEGRS itself even gives Category:LGBT writers as a standard example of a legitimate category, so combining all three to get Category:LGBT writers with disabilities is just a logical next step. I do think Category:Deaf LGBT people should be upmerged per WP:SMALLCAT, but otherwise this is a proper category with proper subcats. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:40, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't dispute either category by themselves; I'm just not sure that the intersection warrants its own category (per this part of the policy/guidance).
 * "Categories which intersect a job, role, or activity with a disability or medical/psychological condition should only be created if the intersection of those characteristics is relevant to the topic and discussed as a group in reliable sources. Thus, we have Category:Deaf musicians and Category:Sportspeople with limb difference and Category:Actors with dwarfism since these intersections are relevant to the topic and discussed in reliable sources, but we should not create Category:Biologists with cerebral palsy, since the intersection of Category:Biologists + Category:People with cerebral palsy is not closely relevant to the job of biologist nor is it a grouping that reliable sources discuss in depth."

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  11:15, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of a sizable literature that covers the intersection in depth. (And for what it's worth, I identify as both LGBTQ and disabled, so I suspect that I'd be more likely to be aware) Well, I'm now aware of it... Sexuality and disability Mason (talk) 00:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised that there is a whole article about it. LGBT people with disabilities face double marginalization. Individuals with disabilities are often either viewed as nonsexual or hypersexual. Because of these misconceptions it is hard to find queer people with disabilities portrayed in healthy sexual lives. This is to be expected whenever there is an overlap between two marginalised demographics: they face double difficulties, double stigma, double uphill battles for emancipation. It's not uncommon to see queer people who are in a wheelchair, or who are neurodivergent, or who are blind, or who are deaf, etc. Not necessarily at higher rates of intersection than straight people, it's just what you would statistically suspect in a human population. Yet, prejudices are almost always there when certain members of the outgroup can't get their head around what it's like to be in such a double ingroup. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:19, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * If merged, the subcategories should be merged too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Per Overcategorization: non-notable intersection of characteristics. See also the discussion at Category:Clergy with disabilities. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per the substantial body of literature that can be found by using the terms "queer" and "crip" in your preferred search engine. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:25, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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French Congo
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Since the 1950s were withdrawn, we have a clear consensus to rename. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 19:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:1940s in the Republic of the Congo‎ to Category:1940s in Moyen-Congo‎
 * Propose renaming Category:1950s in the Republic of the Congo‎ to Category:1950s in Moyen-Congo‎
 * Propose renaming Category:1950s establishments in the Republic of the Congo‎ to to Category:1950s establishments in Moyen-Congo‎
 * Nominator's rationale: rename (over redirect), it only became an independent republic in 1960. The year categories also have "Moyen-Congo". Marcocapelle (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment  - Moyen-Congo‎ is a dab page. Oculi (talk) 18:55, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It was also during a few years in the 1960s the name of Mongala province. I do not think that it is a big problem since the periods do not overlap, but at the same time I am open to alternative names. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Rename and redirect 1940s to match contents, but keep 1950s as the colony was named Republic of the Congo in 1958 (two years before independence). – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I have just created Category:1930s establishments in Moyen-Congo and associated redirects for parents, which will simplify the implementation.. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * For the record, I am withdrawing the 1950s. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Centuries in San José, Costa Rica
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Centuries in San José, Costa Rica to Category:History of San José, Costa Rica
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Oppose isolated merge. No objection to a wider nomination of most city categories in Category:Centuries in North America by city and other continent subcats of Category:Centuries by city. I see that the century–city sub-cats world still be navigable via e.g. Category:20th century in North America by city. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:48, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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 * Withdrawn. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Opera controversies
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 19:58, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Opera controversies to Category:Music controversies and Category:Theatre controversies
 * Propose merging Category:Race-related controversies in opera to Category:Music controversies and Category:Theatre controversies
 * Propose merging Category:Religious controversies in opera to Category:Music controversies and Category:Theatre controversies
 * Nominator's rationale: Please see WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and WP:CATDEFINING. Only two pages in this category tree are stand-alone articles about controversies: 2006 Idomeneo controversy and Controversies surrounding Richard Wagner. The remainder are just articles about operas deemed controversial for one reason or another. I suggest purging everything except the two controversy articles, then upmerging those. gnu 57 22:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Purge and merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose; e.g. The Death of Klinghoffer mentions controversy in the lead section, and has a long section The_Death_of_Klinghoffer. It is not necessary to have a separate article about a controversy before we can categorise as an opera controversy. It would be legitimate to create redirects with "controversy"/"alleged anti-Semitism" etc in the title for each case, and categorise these instead of the main articles, but I do not think this should be necessary. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:41, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the controversies over eg Carmen and Salome are certainly defining, and don't need a seperate article. Johnbod (talk) 15:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Sculptures, drawings, photographs, etc., by collection
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. A separate deletion discussion can be held for the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam. C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 19:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Greek and Roman sculptures of the Louvre to Category:Category:Ancient Greek and Roman sculptures in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Antiquities of the Louvre‎ to Category:Antiquities in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Antiquities of the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon to Category:Antiquities in the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon
 * Propose renaming Category:Antiquities of the Pushkin Museum‎ to Category:Antiquities in the Pushkin Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Arms and armor of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Arms and armor in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Artworks of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Artworks in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Books of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Books in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Byzantine antiquities of the Louvre‎ to Category:Byzantine antiquities in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Ceramics of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Ceramics in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Classical sculptures of the Berlin State Museums‎ to Category:Classical sculptures in the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin
 * Propose renaming Category:Clothing of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Clothing in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Drawings of the Louvre to Category:Drawings in the Louvre


 * Propose renaming Category:Drawings of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Drawings in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Drawings of the Pushkin Museum to Category:Drawings in the Pushkin Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Dresses of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Dresses in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Egyptian antiquities of the Louvre‎ to Category:Egyptian antiquities in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Etruscan sculptures of the Louvre to Category:Etruscan sculptures in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Fabergé eggs of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Fabergé eggs in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Greek, Etruscan and Roman antiquities of the Louvre to Category:Greek, Etruscan and Roman antiquities in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Italian sculptures of the Louvre‎ to Category:Italian sculptures in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Jewellery of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Jewelry in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Jewellery of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Jewellery in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Metalwork of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Metalwork in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Near East and Middle East antiquities of the Louvre to Category:Near Eastern and Middle Eastern antiquities in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Objects of the Berlin State Museums to Category:Objects in the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin
 * Propose renaming Category:Objects of the Frick Collection to Category:Objects in the Frick Collection
 * Propose renaming Category:Objets d'art of the Louvre‎ to Category:Objets d'art in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Papyri of the Berlin State Museums‎ to Category:Papyri in the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Art Institute of Chicago to Category:Photographs in the Art Institute of Chicago
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the J. Paul Getty Museum to Category:Photographs in the J. Paul Getty Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Photographs in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Museum of Modern Art (New York City) to Category:Photographs in the Museum of Modern Art (New York City)
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Musée d'Orsay to Category:Photographs in the Musée d'Orsay
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to Category:Photographs in the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Tate galleries to Category:Photographs in the Tate galleries
 * Propose renaming Category:Photographs of the Victoria and Albert Museum to Category:Photographs in the Victoria and Albert Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Prints of the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam to Category:Prints in the Rijksmuseum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of Orsanmichele to Category:Sculptures in Orsanmichele
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Alte Nationalgalerie to Category:Sculptures in the Alte Nationalgalerie
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Art Institute of Chicago to Category:Sculptures in the Art Institute of Chicago
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Bargello to Category:Sculptures in the Bargello
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Berlin State Museums to Category:Sculptures in the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the British Museum to Category:Sculptures in the British Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Cleveland Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the Cleveland Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Detroit Institute of Arts to Category:Sculptures in the Detroit Institute of Arts
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Galleria dell'Accademia to Category:Sculptures in the Galleria dell'Accademia
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Hermitage Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Hermitage Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Indianapolis Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the Indianapolis Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the J. Paul Getty Museum to Category:Sculptures in the J. Paul Getty Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Kunsthistorisches Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Kunsthistorisches Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Louvre to Category:Sculptures in the Louvre
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Metropolitan Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the Metropolitan Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts to Category:Sculptures in the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museo Nazionale di San Matteo to Category:Sculptures in the Museo Nazionale di San Matteo
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museo Soumaya to Category:Sculptures in the Museo Soumaya
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museo del Prado to Category:Sculptures in the Museo del Prado
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya to Category:Sculptures in the Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston to Category:Sculptures in the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museum of Fine Arts (Budapest) to Category:Sculptures in the Museum of Fine Arts (Budapest)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon to Category:Sculptures in the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Museum of Modern Art (New York City) to Category:Sculptures in the Museum of Modern Art (New York City)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Musée Rodin to Category:Sculptures in the Musée Rodin
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Musée d'Orsay to Category:Sculptures in the Musée d'Orsay
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the National Gallery Prague to Category:Sculptures in the National Gallery Prague
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the National Gallery of Denmark to Category:Sculptures in the National Gallery of Denmark
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the National Museum, Warsaw to Category:Sculptures in the National Museum, Warsaw
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the North Carolina Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the North Carolina Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Norton Simon Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Norton Simon Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek to Category:Sculptures in the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Palace of Versailles to Category:Sculptures in the Palace of Versailles
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Pinacoteca di Brera to Category:Sculptures in the Pinacoteca di Brera
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Sculptures in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the San Diego Museum of Art to Category:Sculptures in the San Diego Museum of Art
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Smithsonian Institution to Category:Sculptures in the Smithsonian Institution
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Strada Nuova Museums to Category:Sculptures in the Musei di Strada Nuova
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Tate galleries to Category:Sculptures in the Tate galleries
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Thorvaldsen Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Thorvaldsen Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Tokyo National Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Tokyo National Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Uffizi to Category:Sculptures in the Uffizi
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Vatican Museums to Category:Sculptures in the Vatican Museums
 * Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Victoria and Albert Museum to Category:Sculptures in the Victoria and Albert Museum
 * Propose renaming Category:Works of the Palace of Versailles to Category:Works in the Palace of Versailles


 * Nominator's rationale: Following this CfD which established "Paintings in Foo" as the standard style for the subcategories of Category:Paintings by collection, I propose to apply the same style to other kinds of objects in museums. The "of" in "", "", "", etc., is unsatisfactory because it suggests depictions of those places, and changing "of" to "in" for other types of object is a matter of consistency. Ham II (talk) 08:56, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Thanks for doing this! I'd prefer "art" rather than "artworks" in Category:Artworks in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom though. Johnbod (talk) 14:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to that in principle, and we've already got Category:Art in the Princeton University Art Museum and Category:Art in the White House as precedents. Not sure about the scope of the category, though – it currently includes the categories for "Books", "Dresses", "Jewellery", "Paintings", "Prints and drawings" and "Sculptures" in the Royal Collection; in other words, any kind of object in the collection. Would Category:Objects in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom be best? It works for the Frick Collection category in this nom, which similarly has to rule out "Collections of..." to avoid repetition. Ham II (talk) 09:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be ok with "objects", or "art". Of all the sub-cats "books" is the least appropriate to go under "art" - it contains one illuminated manuscript, which is obviously fine, & one printed 18th-century book, which really shouldn't be categorized by its "collections", of which there must be hundreds. Johnbod (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. I saw Category:Photographs of the Victoria and Albert Museum pop up in my article alerts list and wondered why such a category was here rather than on Commons (surely there can't be that many individually notable photographs of one museum?). The proposed change resolves that confusion completely though. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support much clearer scope to aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * While we're at it...Category:Prints of the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam should just be deleted. This is not defining for the 13 members, all of which exist in many copies, often hundreds, and are in most major print room collections. Johnbod (talk) 18:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


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