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Tamil-language show stubs/Tamil-tv-prog-stub

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 16:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tamil-language show stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete both template & stub cat: Unproposed, incorrectly formed, not needed (only 1 article uses it). Her Pegship (?) 22:49, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * did you mean to nominate Category:Tamil-language television stubs too? I would support deletion of that one as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I have added that on Dec 11. Her Pegship (?) 20:04, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Protist locomotion

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Protista and Category:Microswimmers. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 15:59, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting protist locomotion
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:EPON with no other members. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:27, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Dual Upmerge the one one article per WP:C2F, one eponymous page. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Dual upmerge per WP:C2F. Deletion would leave the article orphaned. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:As a service

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) —Alalch E. 14:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting as a service
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Just a collocation within a phrasal template. It's only defining in the realm of Marketing buzzspeak for marketing purposes but not for the purposes of encyclopedic categorization. Certain business models that contain "as a service" are defined as category:Service-oriented (business computing) in the context of Cloud computing, per that article. These include:
 * These belong to the Category:Service-oriented (business computing). Maybe, just maybe the following articles, included in the cloud computing navbox also belong to that category:
 * No article belongs to the "As a service" category (should already be clear from the name of the category that something is wrong with it). For example, Energy storage as a service and Mobility as a service have got nothing to do with the above mentioned topics, and the word "cloud" does not even appear in those articles. These are entirely different topics. —Alalch E. 22:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose, the defining article is as a service and this is not limiting the concept to cloud-only. (Apparently I have created the category myself long time ago, but I do not recall this and it is not a motive to oppose.) Marcocapelle (talk) 23:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It isn't defining. Please take a more careful look at that page. That is a WP:Set index article. The defining article for all the list members does not exist and it can not exist. The defining article for Infrastructure as a service, Software as a service, Platform as a service, Backend as a service, and Function as a service is Cloud computing.WP:SHAREDNAME applies.—Alalch E. 00:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There is certainly promotional aspects here and the as a service article could use improvement. But types of products sold on a subscription basis that used to be sold as one time capital purchases seems defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That's just the definition of the Subscription business model (The subscription business model is a business model in which a customer must pay a recurring price at regular intervals for access to a product or service.) (You borrow a book instead of buying the book). But where's even that in Philanthropy as a service, Payments as a service (wire transfer systems have always been services, and this is just a name for alternative, non-institutional, such services, and the differentiating characteristic is the cloud computing technology), etc.—Alalch E. 03:35, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The difference is in, what RevelationDirect also mentioned, the fact that these services used to be sold as one time capital purchases, therefore the addition "as a service" has meaning beyond shared name. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We also categorize by Category:Subscription services, the parent category. No objection to purging Philanthropy as a service though. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thinking more about this, I agree with both of you more then not, so I will withdraw. —Alalch E. 14:28, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:People with narcissistic personality disorder
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Category:American Quarter Horse trainers
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename Uncontested for more than a month * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging and rename Category:American Quarter Horse trainers and Category:American Quarter Horse owners and breeders to Category:American Quarter Horse breeders and trainers‎
 * Nominator's rationale: I think that these categories should be merged and renamed to match the sister categories in the Category:Horse breeders. "Category:American Saddlebred breeders and trainers‎", Category:Tennessee Walking Horse breeders and trainers‎ etc. Mason (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: I have tagged Category:American Quarter Horse owners and breeders. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 18:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment (no oppose): if trainers and breeders are to be combined then Category:Horse trainers and Category:Horse breeders may be nominated for merging together too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:39, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Kosher style restaurants
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Jewish restaurants. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:04, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kosher style restaurants to Category:Kosher restaurants
 * Nominator's rationale: Seems unnecessary to have both Category:Kosher restaurants and Category:Kosher style restaurants. Propose we keep the former per Kosher restaurant. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:21, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * On second thought, perhaps there's good reason to keep Kosher style restaurants from Kosher restaurants? Inviting editors to help decide the fate of both categories. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Alternate Merge to Category:Jewish restaurants. The Kosher restaurants comply with the dietary restrictions while Kosher style do not . This category feels like WP:OCMISC since it nearly empties Category:Jewish restaurants parent category and the Kosher style article says the label is controversial. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:18, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Alt merge per RevelationDirect, but that should be done manually because a number of articles already are in other subcats of that tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:20, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Male television presenters
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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting male television presenters
 * Propose deleting male television presenters by nationality
 * Propose deleting american male television presenters
 * Propose deleting australian male television presenters
 * Propose deleting british male television presenters
 * Propose deleting canadian male television hosts
 * Propose deleting dutch male television presenters
 * Propose deleting french male television presenters
 * Propose deleting german male television presenters
 * Propose deleting indian male television presenters
 * Propose deleting irish male television presenters
 * Propose deleting italian male television presenters
 * Propose deleting japanese male television presenters
 * Propose deleting spanish male television presenters
 * Propose deleting swedish male television presenters
 * Propose deleting male television personalities
 * Propose deleting male television personalities by nationality
 * Propose deleting american male television personalities
 * Propose deleting australian male television personalities
 * Propose deleting brazilian male television personalities
 * Propose deleting british male television personalities
 * Propose deleting canadian male television personalities
 * Propose deleting dutch male television personalities
 * Propose deleting french male television personalities
 * Propose deleting german male television personalities
 * Propose deleting indian male television personalities
 * Propose deleting irish male television personalities
 * Propose deleting italian male television personalities
 * Propose deleting japanese male television personalities
 * Propose deleting spanish male television personalities
 * Propose deleting swedish male television personalities
 * Nominator's rationale: As at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 20, this is a WP:CATEGRS violation. As always, all categories for women do not always need to be balanced directly against matching categories for men, and it depends on the relevance of gender to the topic. Broadcasting, however, was very disproportionately seen as "men's work" for much of history, with women vastly underrepresented until at least the late 1970s and early 1980s -- meaning that this would be an unbrowsably massive megacategory for at least 75 per cent of all the articles we have about television broadcasters. We categorize women here because they're an underrepresented minority in this field, whose participation in broadcasting as a career occasions sociological study -- so the relationship between career and gender is only defining for women in this instance, because it's a field where only women get gender-based analysis of the relationship between their career and their gender. Men in broadcasting are just broadcasters, and only women are "gendered broadcasters". Bearcat (talk) 18:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, per nom. But I am afraid that these have to manually merged to Category:Swedish television personalities etc., insofar they are not already in that tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support in principle per Marcocapelle and I agree that we'll have to manually merge the category. Mason (talk) 00:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Deaths in Somerset County, Pennsylvania
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Category:Constables
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Category:Indian Premier League seasons by year
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Indian Premier League seasons. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting indian premier league seasons by year
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a duplicate of its parent category, which is Category:Indian Premier League seasons. The title is illogical because sporting seasons are, by default, designated by year, so the parent's title is sufficient. Batagur baska (talk) 16:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but merge to Category:Indian Premier League seasons instead of delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Indian Premier League seasons''' per Marcocapelle's comments. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As nominator, I'm happy with merge. Thanks. Batagur baska (talk) 13:42, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge as per other comments. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Law enforcement titles
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:12, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Law enforcement titles to Category:Law enforcement occupations
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, the two categories are too similar in scope to keep them apart. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge not different in practice. - 02:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevelationDirect (talk • contribs)


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Category:Professionals
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose dispersing professionals
 * Nominator's rationale: disperse in the tree of Category:Occupations. This is merely a WP:SHAREDNAME category. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete in Some Fashion Cleary shared name; fine with dispersing if needed. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:25, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete All pages are likely elsewhere in Category:Occupations or Category:Professionalism. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:17, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Railway litigation by year
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Railway litigation by year to Category:Railway case law
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1853 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1853 in case law and Category:1853 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1858 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1858 in case law and Category:1858 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1872 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1872 in case law and Category:1872 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1873 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1873 in case law and Category:1873 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1875 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1875 in case law and Category:1875 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1877 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1877 in case law and Category:1877 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1883 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1883 in case law and Category:1883 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1885 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1885 in case law and Category:1885 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1886 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1886 in case law and Category:1886 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1891 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1891 in case law and Category:1891 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1892 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1892 in case law and Category:1892 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1897 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1897 in case law and Category:1897 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1899 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1899 in case law and Category:1899 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1901 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1901 in case law and Category:1901 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1906 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1906 in case law and Category:1906 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1908 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1908 in case law and Category:1908 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1909 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1909 in case law and Category:1909 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1911 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1911 in case law and Category:1911 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1912 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1912 in case law and Category:1912 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1914 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1914 in case law and Category:1914 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1916 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1916 in case law and Category:1916 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1923 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1923 in case law and Category:1923 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1928 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1928 in case law and Category:1928 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1938 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1938 in case law and Category:1938 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1941 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1941 in case law and Category:1941 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1944 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1944 in case law and Category:1944 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1949 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1949 in case law and Category:1949 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1950 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1950 in case law and Category:1950 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1951 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1951 in case law and Category:1951 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1952 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1952 in case law and Category:1952 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1967 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1967 in case law and Category:1967 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1972 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1972 in case law and Category:1972 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1973 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1973 in case law and Category:1973 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1983 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1983 in case law and Category:1983 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1985 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1985 in case law and Category:1985 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1990 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1990 in case law and Category:1990 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1992 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1992 in case law and Category:1992 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1995 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1995 in case law and Category:1995 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 1997 to Category:Railway case law and Category:1997 in case law and Category:1997 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2000 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2000 in case law and Category:2000 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2004 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2004 in case law and Category:2004 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2005 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2005 in case law and Category:2005 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2006 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2006 in case law and Category:2006 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2008 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2008 in case law and Category:2008 in rail transport
 * Propose merging Category:Railway litigation in 2013 to Category:Railway case law and Category:2013 in case law and Category:2013 in rail transport
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is overdiffused. No other caselaw topic is diffused by year. Mason (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, per nom, but suggest to replace the targets "Case law in year" by "Year in law" since there aren't any case law by year categories yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Striking my further comment, because the issue is solved below. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment/Suggestion The naming format for case lawy by year is "Category:XXXX in case law". The current nomination makes it look like you're merging to nonexistant categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support with Corrected Category Names Clearly WP:NARROWCAT, the target year categories just need to be updated in the nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed updated to the corrected category name. Mason (talk) 03:28, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I might have suggested merging by decade, but think this would still leave most as small categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Diversity management people
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Diversity management people to Category:Human resource management people
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Perhaps dual merge to "Category:Diversity (business)" the other parent category. Mason (talk) 15:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose, the people in the category have an occupation specifically in the field of diversity. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Added some articles to Category:Diversity (business). It's good to have a separate categories for people in the role vs organizational topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flurrious (talk • contribs)


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Category:War criminals
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Category:18th-century British cookbooks
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:20, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:18th-century British cookbooks to Category:18th-century cookbooks and Category:British cookbooks
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century British cookbooks to Category:19th-century cookbooks and Category:British cookbooks
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This category isn't large enough to need to be diffused by century Mason (talk) 14:57, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose: With at least 7 articles included, it seems large enough. Dimadick (talk) 14:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Bangladeshi film songs
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename and purge * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Bangladeshi film songs to Category:Songs written for Bangladeshi films
 * Propose renaming Category:Bengali film songs to Category:Songs written for Bengali films
 * Propose renaming Category:Indian film songs to Category:Songs written for Indian films
 * Propose renaming Category:Film songs in Hindi to Category:Songs written for Hindi-language films
 * Propose renaming Category:Kannada film songs to Category:Songs written for Kannada films
 * Propose renaming Category:Songs in Malayalam composed for film to Category:Songs written for Malayalam films
 * Propose renaming Category:Tamil film songs to Category:Songs written for Tamil films
 * Propose renaming Category:Telugu film songs to Category:Songs written for Telugu films
 * Propose renaming Category:Japanese film songs to Category:Songs written for Japanese films
 * Propose renaming Category:Nepalese film songs to Category:Songs written for Nepalese films
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, per parent Category:Songs written for films. Purge songs which existed prior to the film. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support "Songs from X" is the more common naming format for the sibling categories, but the proposed name is also better than the status quo. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Albums produced by Alesso
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. No substantiative reason to keep. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting albums produced by alesso
 * Nominator's rationale: Had just one entry. Found another to add, but then determined it shouldn't be in the other, so now it's back down to just one, and that one is an album by Alesso so the cat is redundant to Category:Alesso albums anyway. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 13:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Can I get a relist for this? QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 15:45, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep Why does it matter how many entries there are? ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:40, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said, 1. It's redundant to another cat, and 2. Do we not have rules about categories needing to contain a minimum number of entries? WP:SMALLCAT and such, no? QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 17:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This certainly runs afoul of WP:NARROWCAT. Since the former SmallCat guideline gave a blanket pass for this type of works by artist category, it's probably worth a broader discussion whether these type of categories have a purpose. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete There is zero purpose to having two different categories each containing only the same article. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Holography in fiction
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Museums in the United States by state or territory and populated place
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 17:57, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Arkansas by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Hawaii by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Kansas by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Maryland by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Nebraska by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Oklahoma by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Rhode Island by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in South Carolina by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Utah by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Vermont by populated place (1 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in West Virginia by populated place (2 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Propose merging Category:Museums in Wyoming by populated place (1 C) to Category:Museums in the United States by populated place
 * Nominator's rationale: At Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_11, it was discovered that several categories in Category:Museums in the United States by state or territory and populated place are underpopulated. No other merge targets are necessary since all the subcategories should be in a state- or county-level subcategory for museums, such as Category:Museums in Lancaster County, Nebraska. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Support in principle, per nom, but I would take it further, because it is a bit odd that only a dozen states will miss their category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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Category:AstraZeneca brands
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to "Drugs developed by X" * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:AstraZeneca brands to Category:AstraZeneca drugs or Category:Drugs developed by AstraZeneca

Same proposal for:
 * Category:AbbVie brands
 * Category:Alcon brands
 * Category:Bayer brands
 * Category:Eli Lilly and Company brands
 * Category:Genentech brands
 * Category:GSK plc brands
 * Category:Hoffmann-La Roche brands
 * Category:Johnson & Johnson brands
 * Category:Merck & Co. brands
 * Category:Merck brands
 * Category:Novartis brands
 * Category:Pfizer brands
 * Category:Schering-Plough brands
 * Category:Sun Pharma brands
 * Category:Takeda Pharmaceutical Company brands
 * Category:Wyeth brands
 * Nominator's rationale: More clear, recognizable, and accurate (note that vaccines are considered a drug). The category is not composed of brand names because wikipedia uses the international nonproprietary name. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  18:36, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: There is consensus to rename, but no preference between the options. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:17, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom (I am indifferent between the two alternatives). It is a widespread problem, see Category:Health care brands. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * If this is a success I should do a broader nomination of all the drug "brands". (t &#183; c)  buidhe  02:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support good, transparent examples of non-brand names in the category: 2-(Ethylamino)-1,2-diphenylethanone, Isosorbide mononitrate, Sodium zirconium cyclosilicate and Omega-3 carboxylic acids. Prefer the shorter 'AstraZeneca drugs' name as AstraZeneca didn't necessarily fully develop every one of the drugs on the list. &#8213; Synpath 01:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That's true, but I assume that this category includes some items that were fully or partially developed by AstraZeneca before being sold to a different company. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: I have tagged the categories (@). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  12:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: Added other categories to nomination. I also now favor "Drugs developed by company X" because drugs are often developed by multiple companies and in that case putting it in "X company drugs" could be confusing/misleading if X company no longer owns the rights to the drug. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:22, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * After adding the other categories, I tried to put a notice on the category using MMS but apparently it didn't work. As I recall there is a way to notify the categories jointly and I'd really appreciate if someone did that (copied the notice from Category:AstraZeneca brands to the others listed above), otherwise I'll do it manually. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support all per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support per @Buidhe Mason (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Buidhe's preferred name "Drugs developed by X" seems fine per their rationale just above. Ajpolino (talk) 21:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * support per nom.--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What's the plan for the non-drug brands that are currently in those categories? For example, the AstraZeneca cat currently includes three vaccines (vaccines technically aren't "drugs") and Quorn, which is food (and not some type of medical food; it's sold in in the freezer section of regular grocery stores).  WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ajpolino, @Buidhe, @LaundryPizza03, @Marcocapelle, @Ozzie10aaaa, @Qwerfjkl, @Smasongarrison, @Synpath: How do you want to handle this?  In particular, I point out that many large pharmaceutical companies also sell nutritional supplements, and I'm not sure that we want the so-called "SCAM" products to be categorized under "drugs". WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:12, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Then there are two options: rename differently (e.g. "products" instead of "drugs") or move the non-drug articles to a higher level in the hierarchy. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Good point WAID. I like a "Products developed by X" scheme. If folks want a category of only "Drugs developed by X" they can make it a subcategory of "Products developed by X" as Marcocapelle alludes to above. Ajpolino (talk) 19:46, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The parent category is just for drugs. If the scope is changed, it will need to be reparented. I don't think that the manufacturer of a particular supplement is necessarily defining as supplements aren't tested and approved in the same way. So, I would support purging any non drug articles rather than lumping together supplements and drug development. If there is consensus to go with "products", I think "X company products" would be preferable to be consistent with all other "X company products" categories. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Update: I checked several of the categories and was unable to locate any non-drug items. So, I think it should be considered a non-issue unless anyone can bring specific examples of non-drugs that might be included in these categories. As stated above, vaccines are classified as drugs by the FDA and EMA so it is appropriate to include them in drug categories. AstraZeneca temporarily owned the company that makes Quorn, but its involvement in that product is non-defining so I've removed the category. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  02:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking. Then the proposal can just go ahead. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


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Template:Chitral-geo-stub
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 * The result of the discussion was: Split * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Template:Chitral-geo-stub to Template:Upper-Chitral-geo-stub and Template:Lower-Chitral-geo-stub
 * Nominator's rationale: Chitral District dissolved in 2018, as below (Chitral District II). –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 19:00, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * These two stub templates exist, correctly formed, as UpperChitral-geo-stub and LowerChitral-geo-stub. Her Pegship (?) 21:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * Manually resort the stub articles, then delete the template, as the split apparently already happened. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies by colony
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Category:Deaths in Arizona Territory
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 * Propose deleting deaths in arizona territory
 * Propose deleting deaths in the new mexico territory
 * Nominator's rationale: Death by location is not defining. The only person in the NM is already in the correct Category:People murdered in New Mexico, similarly so are the AZ folks Mason (talk) 05:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, the Deaths hierarchy should primarily be diffused by type of death, not by location alone. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Forms of Hindu deities
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Category:Marshallese people by occupation and century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:26, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Marshallese people by occupation and century to Category:Marshallese people by century
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:58, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century Marshallese people by occupation
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 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Marshallese people by occupation to Category:20th-century Marshallese people
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not helpful for navigation to only have one category in here Mason (talk) 03:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Marshallese people by occupation
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 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not helpful for navigation to only have one category in here Mason (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Nauruan people by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:26, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century Nauruan people by occupation to Category:21st-century Nauruan people
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not helpful for navigation to only have one category in here Mason (talk) 03:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sri Lankan Moor people by occupation
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 * Propose merging Category:Sri Lankan Moor people by occupation to Category:Sri Lankan Moors
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one occupation in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:27, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Tbilisi
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Armenian churches in Tbilisi to Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Tbilisi. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Tbilisi to Category:Armenian churches in Tbilisi
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge redundant category (WP:OVERLAPCAT); all the Armenian churches in Tbilisi are/were Apostolic, and upmerging would match its parent category Category:Armenian churches in Georgia (country). sawyer  /  talk  03:01, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Clearly duplicates but please use the correct name. So reverse merge, per Category:Armenian Apostolic church buildings in Georgia (country), Category:Armenian Apostolic churches by country and Armenian Apostolic Church. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Mild oppose. Are you sure that all Armenian churches in Tbilissi are/were Apostolic? Armenian Evangelical Church states a presence in Georgia, as does Ordinariate for Catholics of Armenian Rite in Eastern Europe ("In Georgia there is the parish of Saint Gregory the Illuminator in Tbilisi.") Place Clichy (talk) 03:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If the category is kept, articles about Apolistic church buildings should be moved to that subcategory anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Reverse merge none of these churches were anything other than Armenian Apostolic. Also, I'm not sure there is a valid reason to have an "Armenian" category that spans multiple denominations. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The latter is a good point too. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Lyelchytsy District
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. It is noted that the article name was changed back to Lyelchytsy District, invalidating the nominator's rationale. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename Category:Lyelchytsy District to Category:Lelchytsy District
 * Nominator's rationale: Renamed the article for the District to Lelchytsy District according to the city name Lelchytsy. Plaga med (talk) 21:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Comment Nominator has emptied this category making the discussion of a rename rather pointless. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:08, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz, I think I've restored the pages in the category. @Plaga med please don't empty categories out of process. Also please don't add the red-linked new name. Mason (talk) 04:08, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak support, the article about the city has been at Lelchytsy for a very long time, so it is plausible that the district should be spelled the same. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have moved it to Lyelchytsy and back to Lyelchytsy District due to WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. There is no common name and "Lelchytsy" does not follow BGN/PCGN romanization. Therefore I oppose with the current titles of those articles. Mellk (talk) 20:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * I have stricken my earlier vote. The category name should follow the article name and I can't say anything meaningful about the spelling of the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Venetian male writers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:31, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Venetian male writers to Category:Writers from Venice and Category:Italian male writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. There's no need to diffuse writers from the city of Venice by gender. Mason (talk) 02:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge, it was probably meant as a sibling of Category:Republic of Venice women writers but it seems that the creator abandoned this project quickly. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Bhutanese people by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century Bhutanese people by occupation to Category:21st-century Bhutanese people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. there's only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 01:57, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Orphan drug companies
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging orphan drug companies to pharmaceutical companies
 * Nominator's rationale: Nondefining category based on a regulatory category of drugs, not companies. Most notable drug companies develop both drugs for both orphan and non-orphan uses. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  01:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 03:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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 * For the record, only a few articles needed to be merged, as most were already categorised under pharmaceutical companies by country. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:YouTube groups by nationality
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:YouTube groups by nationality to Category:YouTube groups
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. nothing else is in the parent category. not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 01:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:TikTok groups by nationality
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:TikTok groups by nationality to Category:TikTok groups
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. only one category in here. it isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. It is also the only content in the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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Political groups in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting european conservatives group and democratic alliance
 * Propose deleting european conservatives group and democratic alliance politicians
 * Propose deleting free democrats group politicians
 * Propose deleting socialists, democrats and greens group
 * Propose deleting socialists, democrats and greens group politicians
 * Propose deleting socialist group politicians
 * Nominator's rationale: these categories are wrongly categorized as, as they are in fact not parties but political groups in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. Individual articles are already categorized at , while individual politicians are better categorized by their national party. Place Clichy (talk) 00:27, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete at least Category:European Conservatives Group and Democratic Alliance and Category:Socialists, Democrats and Greens Group as a redundant category layer with only the main article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


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