Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 13



Category:Belgian independence activists

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Category:Belgian people of the Brabant Revolution Category:Independence activists of the Brabant Revolution
 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Independence activists of the Brabant Revolution. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Belgian independence activists to
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per parent Category:People of the Brabant Revolution and to avoid confusion with the much later actual independence in 1830. I haven't listed this for speedy renaming for in case someone has a better alternative for "Belgian". Marcocapelle (talk) 22:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:24, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alt might be Category:Independence activists of the Brabant Revolution (intersection of Category:People of the Brabant Revolution and Category:Independence activists). Certainly rename to something less ambiguous. (One of user:Rathfelder's creations.) Oculi (talk) 01:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alt rename to Category:Independence activists of the Brabant Revolution (no space) — by parents.
 * (as nominator) I'm perfectly happy with Category:Independence activists of the Brabant Revolution. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * modified nomination, as we are all in agreement.


 * Support amended proposal. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Musicals about writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting musicals about writers
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles in the category. Merging is not applicable, the articles are already in other subcats of the parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Socialist rulers

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Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Iraq and Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Syria
 * The result of the discussion was: delete (merge Category:Ba'athists). (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting socialist rulers
 * Propose category redirect Category:Ba'athists to Category:Ba'ath Party politicians
 * Propose deleting ba'athist rulers
 * Propose deleting ba'athist rulers of iraq
 * Propose deleting ba'athist rulers of syria
 * Alternative:
 * Propose splitting Category:Ba'athist rulers to
 * Propose renaming Category:Ba'athist rulers of Iraq to Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Iraq
 * Propose renaming Category:Ba'athist rulers of Syria to Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Syria


 * Propose renaming Category:Ba'athist rulers to Category:Ba'athist leaders
 * Propose renaming Category:Ba'athist rulers of Iraq to Category:Ba'athist leaders of Iraq
 * Propose renaming Category:Ba'athist rulers of Syria to Category:Ba'athist leaders of Syria
 * Propose renaming Category:Communist rulers to Category:Communist leaders

William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT. Category:Rulers is currently a child of Category:Sovereignty suggesting that "rulers" are sovereign. Some are not rulers, they were elected. Some are not socialists, or are distingished as communists. Most are in parallel related categories, not aid to navigation.
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:12, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2018 discussion at Speedy.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support deletion of Category:Socialist rulers, articles about politicians should be in categories by political party, not by a general (often subjective) label. I would have supported deletion Category:Communist rulers for the same reason but that would require a simultaneous discussion about its subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also Support deletion per nom, Marocapelle and WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Same goes for Category:Fascist rulers and Category:Communist rulers. Alternatively, if "Socialist" etc. are found to be legitimate categorisations, we should consider a split into Category:Socialist heads of state and Category:Socialist heads of government etc. because "rulers" itself is too vague a term, see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_12 no. #18, #19 and #20. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:50, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Doubt about renaming the three other categories, "communist leaders" may suggest leaders of a communist party, while "communist rulers" clearly refers to leaders of a country. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also Doubt about renaming the Ba'athist categories. For one, I think Category:Ba'athists and Category:Ba'ath Party politicians are WP:OVERLAPCATs. Category:Ba'athist rulers of Iraq has only 2 members, Category:Ba'athist rulers of Syria only 6; they only seem to involve heads of state of Iraq and Syria. Its parent Category:Ba'athist rulers is much larger, and almost all of them have been Prime Minister of Iraq or Syria while being a member of the Ba'athist Party of Iraq/Syria.
 * Alternative proposal: The solution seems obvious: Category:Ba'athists should merge with Category:Ba'ath Party politicians. Category:Ba'athist rulers should be split into Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Iraq and Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Syria, while its subcats should be renamed Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Iraq and Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Syria; all four should be equal subcats of Category:Ba'ath Party politicians.
 * Result:
 * Category:Ba'ath Party politicians (Category:Ba'athists redirects here)
 * Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Iraq
 * Category:Ba'athist heads of government of Syria
 * Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Iraq
 * Category:Ba'athist heads of state of Syria
 * Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:08, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alternative proposal by Nederlandse accepted. Nomination modified. Communists left to future nomination. does this remove your doubts?
 * I am not opposing but straight deletion of the Ba'ath rulers categories could be also be an option. For example Hussein Arnous is already in Category:Members of the Regional Command of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party – Syria Region and Category:Prime Ministers of Syria, that may well suffice. (Caveat with that: I know too little of internal Middle Eastern politics to make a bold statement that Ba'ath is equally vague as liberal, conservative or socialist.) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:50, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Politicians and rulers should be categorized by actual regime rather than catch-all terms like socialist which cover too many different things. In turn, if supported by reliable sources, the regime may be placed in an appropriate socialism category. Place Clichy (talk) 11:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete would also be acceptable. Added to nomination.


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People depicted in music

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, rename others to match. For the record, this outcome also fits with retaining "Cultural depictions" at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_11.
 * The renamings are:
 * Category:Bonnie and Clyde in music to Category:Depictions of Bonnie and Clyde in music
 * Category:Portrayals of Jesus in music to Category:Depictions of Jesus in music
 * Category:Robin Hood music to Category:Depictions of Robin Hood in music
 * Category:Spartacus music to Category:Depictions of Spartacus in music
 * – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Bonnie and Clyde in music to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Depictions of Julius Caesar in music to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Depictions of Cleopatra in music to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Portrayals of Jesus in music to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Robin Hood music to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Spartacus music to ?
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and standardize all.
 * Option 1: "X in music" (which I slightly prefer for brevity).
 * Option 2: "Depictions of X in music".
 * Option 3: "Portrayals of X in music".
 * Option 4: "X music" (perhaps the worst option because it may suggest music by X).
 * Option 5: "Music about X" (matching "Songs about X" and "Films about X" but with music it sounds a bit strange to me). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:51, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Spartacus music to Category:Depictions of Spartacus in music – C2A: "___ music" generally refers to genres or types of music, not music that happen to be about a specific person. ★Trekker (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * or just Category:Spartacus in music? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Similar categories for Romans and other ancient figures are at Category:Depictions of Julius Caesar in music and Category:Depictions of Cleopatra in music, which match their sibling categories.★Trekker (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy There is no clear convention in for the proposed format and I don't think C2A is applicable in any way. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:59, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Depictions of _ in music mirrors other depiction categories.★Trekker (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Depictions of... seems logical and helpful, although (and I realize that this is not a deletion discussion) I note that "Spartacus" is a very small category, with just three items, all unrelated to each other, and one of them does not clearly belong (at least, the lengthy article about Spartacus (The Farm album) does not provide any information linking it with the historical Spartacus; the only obvious connection is the name). I suppose the motion picture soundtrack could go in this category, if there were such an article.  There is an extensive pop culture section of Spartacus, containing several musical items (only one or two with articles) that aren't part of the category—so I suggest that this particular category needs attention!  P Aculeius (talk) 15:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Music about X — WP:C2C matching parent Category:Music about individual people, and recent discussion for "Songs about X" (songs are music) and "Films about X".
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Depictions of _ in music, per Trekker's suggestion. The scope is clearer that way. Dimadick (talk) 15:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Depictions of _ in music IMO it's the best option. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)


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Polish-Lithuanian office-holders names

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. However, the first nine may be nominated for speedy renaming to lowercase per MOS:JOBTITLE; I am stating this in case anyone checks WhatLinksHere. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Great Hetmans of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Grand Hetmans
 * Category:Field Hetmans of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Field Hetmans
 * Category:Great Crown Hetmans to Category:Crown Grand Hetmans
 * Category:Field Crown Hetmans to Category:Crown Field Hetmans
 * Category:Court Marshals of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Court Marshals
 * Category:Deputy Chancellors of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Vice-Chancellors
 * Category:Grand Chancellors of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Grand Chancellors
 * Category:Grand Marshals of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Grand Marshals
 * Category:Grand Treasurers of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian Grand Treasurers
 * Category:Hetmans of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Polish–Lithuanian Hetmans
 * Category:Diplomats of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Polish–Lithuanian Diplomats
 * Category:Ambassadors of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Safavid Iran to Category:Polish–Lithuanian Ambassadors to Safavid Iran
 * Category:Generals of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Polish–Lithuanian Generals
 * Category:Marshals of the Sejm of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Marshals of the Polish–Lithuanian Sejm
 * Nominator's rationale: Bundled nomination for renaming Polish-Lithuanian office-holders names, to make them consistent and shorter. Also I propose "Vice-Chancellor" instead of "Deputy Chancellor" as the one used by WP:RS Marcelus (talk) 17:00, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:14, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Tagged categories. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong agree. WP:Conciseness is key and it is handier and better to just use "Lithuanian" instead of the more wordy "... of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania" or "Grand Ducal Lithuanian ...". Cukrakalnis (talk) 19:31, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support this concise solution. Category names are best when kept short.  Peterkingiron (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - there is a complete loss of clarity. Category:Lithuanian Vice-Chancellors would be a collection of (mis-capitalised) university leaders. C2D - follow the article, such as Hetmans of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. C2C: follow the names in the category tree, which is . Oculi (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That's very anglo-centric view, because in Lithuania university leaders are called rectors or prorectors. Titles of chancellors and vice-chancellors function in many dfferent types of institutions, political, educational, religious, masonic etc. But "Lithuanian Vice-Chancellor" can only mean vicecancellarius, leader of the lesser chancellery of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Marcelus (talk) 15:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - there is a complete loss of clarity. The Grand Duchy and the Commonwealth were completely different entities. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate? They weren't "completely" different one was part of the other, and officials of the GDL were also officials of PLC Marcelus (talk) 21:01, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * They were different states. You start with two states (the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania). You end with one state - the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Obfuscation of these facts should be avoided. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's much complicated than that; Kingdom of Poland and GDL formed one state -> PLC, but didn't cease to exist on their own. For examples offices were separate (there was Polish Grand Hetman and Lithuanian Grand Hetman etc.). It's not "obfuscation" but acknowleding the fact that reality is much more complex, and the premodern states functioned on different basis than moder ones. Marcelus (talk) 13:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That all sounds like a good reason to keep the current names. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:26, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak support, if none of these offices exists in modern Lithuania then it is not too confusing. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these positions (hetmans, grand chancellors, grand treasurers and the rest) exist in modern Lithuania, so it would not be confusing. Cukrakalnis (talk) 14:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose — WP:C2C and WP:C2D. Misusing Lithuanian demonym for nationality. Checking the articles, roughly half of these persons were not Lithuanian and should not be miscategorized as such. For example, "Field Hetman" Hrehory Chodkiewicz was Ruthenian, and should not be miscategorized under Category:Lithuanian Field Hetmans. Duchy and Commonwealth are not the same, any more than Republic and Empire are the same. Use the well-known and documented names. Full names prevent editors from accidental confusion that requires cleanup. Cleanup is tedious and time consuming.
 * "Lithuanian Field Hetman" was literally his title, that are well documented. Also he was Lithuanian because he lived in the Lithuanian state. Marcelus (talk) 09:30, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also those Poles, Ruthenians, and Ukrainians became (Little) Russians after they were conquered by the Russian Empire. The Ukrainians themselves seem to have a different view, and seem willing to die for it. Note that we don't categorize Greeks or Egyptians or Britains as Romans after they were conquered either. That's why we have these detailed suffix standards. Keep them.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm confused as Category:Ambassadors of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth was tagged for this CFD but a) the category was just created today and immediately tagged for CFD deletion (so why create it?), b) I don't see it listed here and c) the category is empty. I don't know why this category was created just in order to nominate it for deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , that category was mistakenly created by during his automated relisting. The original nominator only tagged the first category. Qwerfjkl was just being helpful. Category:Ambassadors of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Safavid Iran remains untagged.
 * @Liz, that category can be deleted, I created it mistakenly as William Allen Simpson says. — Qwerfjkl  talk  10:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:17, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Okay, I appreciate the explanation. Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support generally -- I do not think the objection to vice-chancellor is sound: the British use of the term is very much as local one, due to the Chancellor of universities having become a figurehead position. I do not think LL's objection that Lithuania and Poland-Lithuania are distinct has any merit: one succeeded the other, so that it is quite likely that there was a continuous succession where an office operated only in Lithuania.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * DUPLICATE !vote


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Category:AC using state parameter

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Categories emptied. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:21, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:AC using state parameter to Category:Pages using authority control with state parameter
 * Propose renaming Category:AC using state parameter: collapsed to Category:Pages using authority control with state parameter: collapsed
 * Propose renaming Category:AC using state parameter: expanded to Category:Pages using authority control with state parameter: expanded
 * Nominator's rationale: Full name of the template and consistent with Category:Pages using authority control with parameters and Category:Pages with authority control identifiers needing attention. Gonnym (talk) 15:20, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * All these are unneeded and in the process of being emptied and deleted. No point renaming at this stage. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment Category:AC using state parameter: expanded has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:43, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename. They are tracking categories, and liable to be populated again if someone reverts a page or uses the parameter in these ways. If the categories were deleted and later re-created, that would lose the page history and the interwiki connections. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:57, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * They will never be used again. The template has been changed so it will not populate these &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Now Category:AC using state parameter: collapsed has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, delete. They are all now empty, and the code that generated them has been removed rather than renaming the categories. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Basketball venues in Indonesia by city

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Basketball venues in Indonesia by city to Category:Basketball venues in Indonesia and Category:Basketball venues by city
 * Propose merging Category:Gymnastics venues in Indonesia by city to Category:Gymnastics venues in Indonesia and Category:Gymnastics venues by city
 * Propose deleting gymnastics venues in indonesia by province
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer for one city. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support — should these venues categories exist at all?


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Category:Kabaddi venues by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kabaddi venues by country to Category:Kabaddi venues
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer for one country. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:12, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support — should these venues categories exist at all?


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Biographical works
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Works about individual people to Category:Biographical works by subject
 * Propose renaming Category:Books about individual people to Category:Biographies (books) by subject
 * Propose renaming Category:Music about individual people to Category:Biographical music by subject
 * Nominator's rationale: rename aligning with parent categories Category:Biographical works and Category:Biographies (books), and to clarify that these are container categories ("by"). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename Would be much clearer in hotcat that these are not for loose articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:08, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename WP:C2C parents.


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Category:Black comedy video games
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:45, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting black comedy video games
 * Nominator's rationale: In-keeping with Categories for discussion/Log/2017 March 6, "comedy" is not a widely used theme or genre applied to video games. "Black comedy", as well, is an original research distinction, without common mention in reliable sources, and is not a "defining" characteristic in all articles I spotchecked within this category. Pinging prior participants  czar  04:27, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per the same argument I had before. Except now it's even more of a WP:CROSSCAT. Articles I spot-checked never even mention it. — HELL KNOWZ ∣ TALK 11:29, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Manitoba radio station stubs
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Manitoba radio station stubs to Category:Western Canada radio station stubs and Category:Manitoba stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no record of approval by WikiProject Stub Sorting. As always, stub categories have a much, much higher price for creation than regular content categories do, and are not justified until there are at least 60 articles to file in them -- much below that, a stub template is only allowed to sort its entries into parent categories, like the proposed targets, rather than getting its own dedicated stub category. And for that very reason, stub categories have to be approved by the wikiproject, and are not free for just any editor to create at their own whim. So Manitoba-radio-station-stub should just go back to sorting its entries in the same categories it did until this got created in 2021, because there just aren't the numbers to justify a standalone category here. Bearcat (talk) 00:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:32, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge


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