Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 14



Category:Education in Del City, Oklahoma

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:02, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Education in Del City, Oklahoma to Category:Del City, Oklahoma and Category:Education in Oklahoma County, Oklahoma
 * Nominator's rationale: Education cat of a very small city, upmerge to county-level and city cat. Merge manually as some may already been under sub-cats. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sportspeople from Newburyport, Massachusetts

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:03, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sportspeople from Newburyport, Massachusetts to Category:Sportspeople from Essex County, Massachusetts and Category:People from Newburyport, Massachusetts
 * Nominator's rationale: More appropriate to merge to and . –Aidan721 (talk) 18:59, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  07:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:SMALLCAT does not seem applicable here. So what is the rationale for the merge? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Do we really need to break down the people in this town by occupation? People are more likely to want to navigate between all people from this town. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep partly as creator. But mostly a keep because this is part of a much larger people from foo by occupation scheme throughout the US and I believe many other countries. Including two other such sub categories for the people from city cat here. The above arguments and similar ones have been have been rejected time and again. If I recall we had a big discussion on this like a decade ago and it was decided then that basically the last part of WP:OCLOCATION allows for this to breakdown larger categories. In essence, don't do it for three actors (since that violates SMALLCAT), but once you get to say 10 (as I have never seen a category deleted per SMALLCAT with ten entries or more), then do it, inline with WP:DIFFUSE. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Upmerge after depopulating — most don't even mention they were sportspeople in this town, instead seem to be automatically based upon birthplace. That was explicitly forbidden in WP:OCLOCATION, specifically for sport. Categorize by place they were active. A pro-baseball player who grew up elsewhere and didn't even attend high school or college here isn't "from" Newburyport. An olympic racewalker who raced elsewhere as an adult isn't "from" Newburyport.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In principle I agree that categorizing people by city or town is not very helpful for navigation between related articles. I cannot imagine wp users reading articles about people from place X just because they are from place X. But this requires a much broader discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Depopulated. Only one was actually raised and performed here. The rest all left the county or state as children. WP:NONDEFINING WP:OCLOCATION WP:OCTRIVIA. Broad discussion was already completed years ago, see WP:COP-PLACE: The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual. The residence of parents and relatives is never defining and rarely notable. The place of death is not normally categorized....

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  21:49, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom, as usual in SMALLCAT cases. Here the population is 1.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Murder victims by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:06, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Murder victims by country to Category:People murdered by country
 * Category:Murdered people by country and Category:Murdered in
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C: all the subcategories are "People murdered in ", match {Commons category|People murdered by country}.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Moved from Speedy.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:48, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In fact, the subcats are all "People murdered in", which obviously doesn't apply to this container cat, which is why it has a different name. "Murdered people by country" would be better English, but, frankly, best of all is the current title, as "murder victims" is the WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Doubt "murder victims" is the WP:COMMONNAME, especially as that is contrary to the "Commons category" across all wikipedias.
 * Opposed to renaming all the subcategories to "murder victims".
 * Agree that "murdered people" sounds like marginally better grammar, but this is a people category.
 * Fairly recently moved "Murdered sex workers" to "Sex workers murdered", so consensus is running the other way.
 * Is anybody proposing renaming all these subcategories "murdered people"?
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I meant that "murder victims" is by far the commonest name in the actual real world. The reason it's not used in the subcats is that just because someone is murdered in a country doesn't mean they came from that country (e.g. "British murder victims" and "People murdered in the United Kingdom" are not the same thing). However, see Category:Murder victims by nationality. "People murdered by country" is just not good English. As to Category:Sex workers murdered in the United States, that's clearly better than Category:Murdered sex workers in the United States. These are just not the same situations. And the parent cat is Category:Murdered sex workers in any case. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * According to google ngrams, "murdered people" and "people murdered" were most common as far back as it goes. Heck, "murder victims" doesn't even show up until after 1960, and the knee of the graph is roughly 1984 (Reagan era), and it is declining. So "murder victims" is ultraconservative or reactionary verbiage. That's contrary to WP:NPOV.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  21:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: the above discussion indicates the "by country" suffix is grammatically problematic as a sentence. But that's what we've been using for nearly 20 years. I'd prefer we pick something consistent, rather than some " murdered" alternating with "murdered ". Yes, I know, "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
 * Having "murdered" before "by" suggests these people were murdered by a country, so that is not ideal. On the other hand Category:People by country in which they were murdered is technically more correct but it is very verbose. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Shorter Category:People by country where murdered, but that wouldn't work for the subcategories either. Instead, swap them back, as "Murdered people by country" and matching "Murdered in " are less of a problem. Big job, could be done in phases.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Oppose – Murder victims by country fits with Category:Murder victims and Category:Crime victims by country. People murdered by country sounds like the people have been murdered by a country. I don't see the point in changing Murder victims to Murdered people. By definition, a murder victim is a person. Category:Murdered in  is confusing because it sounds like the murdered people are currently in that country. I don't think Wikimedia Commons is the example to follow – there's much more participation on Wikipedia, and I would imagine it would be more likely that Commons would take Wikipedia's lead. MClay1 (talk) 06:56, 22 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Superpowers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 22%23Category:Superpowers

Upmerge Decommissioned into Former nuclear power stations

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:08, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

jnestorius(talk) 19:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge Category:Decommissioned nuclear power stations → Category:Former nuclear power stations
 * Upmerge Category:Decommissioned nuclear power stations in the United States → Category:Former nuclear power stations in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Are there stations which are former but not decommissioned (or vice versa)? Other countries have only the "Former" category, not the "Decommissioned", so why does the US (and parent) have both? At the very least it would seem that most former stations are decommissioned, so if it is worth noting the 1% which are former but not decommissioned then make that the subcat, rather than the 99%, because it will be less likely that confused editors like me will mistake the parent for the child. The grandparent Category:Nuclear power stations by status suggests the categories are autopoulated by Infobox nuclear power station but I think that is no longer true:
 * that template was merged in 2010 to Infobox power station
 * twiddling the status field in the infobox doesnt change the category
 * the articles I've checked have the category manually included.
 * The table in Nuclear decommissioning suggests that lots of former nuclear power stations have not been fully decommissioned (yet). The question however is whether decommissioned status is defining enough to warrant a separate subcategory and I do not have an answer to that question. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:38, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge — for consistency. No other country in Category:Former nuclear power stations has this WP:SMALLCAT split.


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Category:State border guards in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. @William Allen Simpson: don't worry, I read the discussions. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging deleting Category:State border guards in the United States to Category:Border protection
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete — only article is already under Category:Border guards, no need for redundant layers of categorization.
 * Fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * the target has since been renamed. If you don't modify your nomination, they'll think we are disagreeing and relist.
 * Thank you, I'll modify the nomination, that makes sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


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G7 and G8 summits

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:G7 summits. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Group of Seven to Category:G7 and G8 summits
 * Propose merging Category:Group of Eight‎ to Category:G7 and G8 summits
 * Propose merging Category:G7 summits to Category:G7 and G8 summits
 * Propose merging Category:Group of Eight summits‎ to Category:G7 and G8 summits
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, G7 and G8 are largely overlapping (many articles are about both) and they are mainly known for their summits, with the consequence that a separate summits subcategory adds very little value. As a aside, this merge avoids the awkward full writing of Category:Group of Seven and Category:Group of Eight which are far lesser known terms than G7 and G8. Earlier, a speedy rename request was declined. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Group of Seven to Category:G7 – C2D: This category was previously renamed to match the previous article name "Group of Seven". However, the article has since been to G7. --Ferien (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy G7 is ambiguous and therefore C2D doesn’t apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:35, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Category:Group of Eight to Category:G8 – C2D: This category was renamed in the past to match the name "Group of Eight". However, the article has been renamed to G8 after a consensus that that is the common name. --Ferien (talk) 22:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy G8 is ambiguous and therefore C2D doesn’t apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:35, 13 January 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. 16:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Support Renaming/Neutral on Merger G7 and G8 are what these are known as. I favor following the main article in general and, even if I didn't, in this case "Group of Seven/Eight" is too obscure to aid navigation. (Whether or not these should be merged, I defer to other editors.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment G7 became G8 for a short period as a result of Russia participating. However effectively it was a single series of summits, renamed for the extra country.  For alumni categories we do not create categories for renamed institutions; likewise sports teams, so that there is a logic in having category Category:G7 even for the period when it was G8. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * When merged, I would also be okay with Category:G7 summits as the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:48, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:02, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:G7 summits as agreed. G5 and G6 have already been subsumed.


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Category:Science fiction fans

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:16, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting science fiction fans
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining. ★Trekker (talk) 12:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Category:Organizers of science fiction conventions or Category:Publishers of science fiction fanzines could be viable alternatives, but the large amount of biographies currently in the category will not belong there. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:G7 nations

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:16, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting g7 nations
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, to a certain extent a matter of recentism (G7 only exists since 1973 while the member states exist far longer). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per reasons given.★Trekker (talk) 13:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - no less a defining characteristic than Category:Member states of the Council of Europe, Member states of the Commonwealth of Nations‎, Category:E7 nations or most of the other categories in Category:Countries by international organization. Actually, statistics and nature of G7 nations are pretty regularly discussed in media and economic scholarship. Furius (talk) 02:34, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Might be controversial, but I'm not sure those categories should exist either.★Trekker (talk) 08:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete — presentism. The membership has varied (Library Group, G5, G6, G8), not really a stable categorization.


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Category:European Cultural History

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:European Cultural History to Category:Cultural history of Europe
 * Propose renaming Category:North American cultural history to Category:Cultural history of North America
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with parent Category:History of Europe and with subcats Category:Cultural history of Austria etc. There was an alternative renaming proposal at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:34, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Category:European Cultural History to Category:European cultural history – C2C: Sentence case. Consistency with the North American counterpart. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 14:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Alternatively Category:Cultural history of Europe, consistent with Category:Cultural history of Austria etc which ought to be subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It probably needs to go to a full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 09:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It probably needs to go to a full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 09:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging nominator at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 12:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Support both —  an example of by continent and/or by region with an intellectual history basis and centuries of academic references. Note these should never be containerized, as these are topics themselves. Record this decision.
 * Support per nom. There should also be Category:Cultural history of Asia, etc. TSventon (talk) 12:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:African sportspeople by ethnic or national origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting african sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
 * Propose deleting african sportspeople of european descent
 * Propose deleting african sportspeople of spanish descent
 * Propose deleting equatoguinean sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
 * Propose deleting equatoguinean sportspeople of european descent
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Category naming does not provide for by continent or by region encapsulating by country.


 * Summary: 5 layers of categories for 4 Spaniards.


 * Same progenitor as:


 * 1) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 3
 * 2) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 11
 * 3) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 4) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 5) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 13


 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Support, apart from Category:Equatoguinean sportspeople of Spanish descent (which is not part of this nomination) the tree contains three articles which are already in Category:Guinean people of Spanish descent or likewise, which is perfectly fine. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Middle Eastern sportspeople by ethnic or national origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting middle eastern sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
 * Propose deleting middle eastern sportspeople of asian descent
 * Propose deleting middle eastern sportspeople of chinese descent
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.


 * Summary: 3 layers of categories for 2 Chinese who moved to Turkey.


 * Same progenitor as:


 * 1) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 3
 * 2) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 11
 * 3) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 4) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 5) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 13


 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Support, very complex tree which ultimately only contains Category:Turkish sportspeople of Chinese descent with only two articles. This is not aiding navigation at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Oceanian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:19, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting oceanian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
 * Propose deleting oceanian sportspeople of asian descent
 * Propose deleting oceanian sportspeople of chinese descent
 * Propose deleting oceanian sportspeople of pakistani descent
 * Propose deleting oceanian sportspeople of oceanian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.


 * Same progenitor as:


 * 1) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 3
 * 2) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 11
 * 3) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 4) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12
 * 5) Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 13


 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, while e.g. Category:Australian sportspeople of Chinese descent are more arguable, the nominated categories are merely container categories not leading to improved navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Border protection people
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Border control. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting border protection people
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer with only 3 subcats. Category:Border guards should be moved up to Category:Border protection, and the other members are already in other subcats. If kept, speedy rename to Category:Border control people per C2D. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 05:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:45, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Border protection/Category:Border control per nom. The category layer has become even more redundant after I boldly moved the GDR and US siblings under Category:Border guards. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Border control. A bit confusing, as Category:Border protection to Category:Border control is under Speedy, so that should happen sooner. Merging will then upmerge Category:Border guards as requested.


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Category:TVOntario executives
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TVOntario executives to Category:TVO executives
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:17, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect. Per WP:C2D, main article was renamed by consensus in this formal RM discussion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect, to assist editors.


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Category:TVOntario people
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:21, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TVOntario people to Category:TVO people
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:14, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:PERFCAT. Of the 3 articles I looked at, Piya Chattopadhyay and Royal Galipeau don't seemed defined by the association while John Labow does. Would love to hear from other editors more familiar with the topic though. (If retained, the exact name of this category should match the rest of the tree.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete obvious WP:OCASSOC issue. I'm most reminded of when I took Category:WRAL people to CfD in 2020. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:TVOntario
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:22, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TVOntario to Category:TVO
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect. Per WP:C2D, main article was renamed by consensus in this formal RM discussion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect, to assist editors.


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Category:TVOntario original programming
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:22, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:TVOntario original programming to Category:TVO original programming
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:05, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect. Per WP:C2D, main article was renamed by consensus in this formal RM discussion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy Rename leaving redirect, to assist editors.


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Badly-named La Trobe University courses
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as per Bduke. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:25, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming him5ihc to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Electronic Health Records
 * Propose renaming la trobe oral health to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Oral Health
 * Propose merging la trobe university oral health into the above category.
 * Propose renaming la trobe university oral health/2016-17 to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Oral Health (2016-2017)
 * Propose merging la trobe university oral health/2016-17/contributors into the above category.
 * Propose renaming latrobe university oral health 2018 to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Oral Health (2018)
 * Propose renaming latrobe university oral health 2019 to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Oral Health (2019)
 * Nominator's rationale Rename all of these categories to make it clear they are user categories, follow standard naming conventions, and consolidate duplicates. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I support the first proposal. All the others should be merged into Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: La Trobe University - Oral Health. There is no need for separate categories for specific years. --Bduke (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No objection to that alternate proposal. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:37, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. Agree with Bduke, no need for separate years - GA Melbourne (talk) 14:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Current show jumping seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:23, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting current show jumping seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: Not used for a while. Checking Category:Show jumping by year last time it could have been used was in 2017 and only for 1 article. Thats not enough to justify this category. "Cat:Current sports seasons" would work just as good. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete current/past categorisation is deplored. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


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